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Posted on 9/23/19 at 4:14 pm to
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 4:14 pm to
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Oh, but they haven't played anyone, right? Well he beat a very good Cincinnati team that went 11-2 last year and was top 5 in terms of overall defense to boot.

Yikes... Using last year to determine whether this year's team is good. Quality selective stats there bruh...

Post Week 4 SP+:
Cincinatti... 59/130 "very good"
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
42519 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 4:20 pm to
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Justyn Ross probably wasn't the most polished receiver but Dabo put him out there cause he can catch the damn ball


Love using this as an example when Ross’ only 100 yard game before the playoffs was Georgia Southern.

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Lawrence wasn't perfect but he was the better choice than Kelly Bryant


Comparing Jake Fromm and Kelly Bryant is an interesting move.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 4:45 pm to
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Love using this as an example when Ross’ only 100 yard game before the playoffs was Georgia Southern.


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Comparing Jake Fromm and Kelly Bryant is an interesting move.


Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22287 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 6:15 pm to
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Let's say hypothetically Kirby had given the ball last year to Fields


We would’ve lost at least another game.
Posted by jodeaux
Member since Sep 2014
1541 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 6:37 pm to
I'm fine with that, last year we all knew that team wasn't capable of winning a natty. Punt the year and get Fields ready for 2019 would've been the better play for Kirby
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22287 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 6:47 pm to
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last year we all knew that team wasn't capable of winning a natty


I disagree. Football is indeed a game of matchups, momentum, motivation, and a bit of luck. We almost beat Bama and made the playoffs. If we hadn’t played Fields we just might’ve pulled it off. Make the playoffs and who knows what happens.

Any coach that sacrifices a year of play should be fired. Fields was not the best QB on the team last year, that’s why he sat. He’s the best QB at OSU right now, that’s why he’s playing.
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 6:55 pm to
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Fields was not the best QB on the team last year, that’s why he sat. He’s the best QB at OSU right now, that’s why he’s playing.


It seems obvious. Why do we keep rehashing this??
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25593 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 6:48 am to
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fine with that, last year we all knew that team wasn't capable of winning a natty. Punt the year and get Fields ready for 2019 would've been the better play for Kirby


Any coach who punts the year at Bama, Clemson, or Georgia should be fired.

You dont do that to your fans. You dont do that to your seniors. You don't let recruits see anyone on the team who has given up. That attitude is a poison.
Posted by DawgHolliday
the 'cloven-land', ga
Member since Sep 2012
4980 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 7:21 am to
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It seems obvious. Why do we keep rehashing this??


Because the backup QB is the most popular guy on the team...even when he isn’t on the team anymore.

Also, I don’t know if anyone has actually watched OSU this year but he is still pretty much pulling it down and running when his first read is covered most of the time.
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
3941 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 7:36 am to
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he is still pretty much pulling it down and running when his first read is covered most of the time.
And holding on to it for a long time.
Posted by CalDawg
Member since Aug 2016
1444 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 7:42 am to
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How long are we going to justify Fromm's OK games when we could've had a QB who is less polished but WAY more dangerous. Who here honestly thinks we'd be worse with Fields as our QB?

Fields is perfect for TOSU’s RPO. It’s an easier system & tailored to his running ability. GA is not an RPO offense; it’s smash-mouth & play-action pass & I’ll take Fromm, his playbook knowledge & ability to read defenses over a “less polished” QB. Every. Day.

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UGA gets guys like James Cook/Pickens/Fields and what do we do? We get scared to give them the ball in big games, play it safe with Herrien and Swift up the gut.

Scouting ND, their interior DL & middle LBs were the weak links while their secondary was seen as a strength. A power run team running between the tackles isn’t “playing it safe”; it’s doing what you do. Bread meet butter.

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Kirby doesn't know how to play to his strengths or manage his talent.

If you’re referring to Fields, I’d point the finger at Chaney.
Posted by Dawgsfan81
Winder, Georgia
Member since Sep 2017
915 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 8:02 am to
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Only got one touch? Honestly, between that and Pickens only getting one target, I'm starting to think Jadon Haselwood had a point about our coaching staff.


Turn in your UGA fan card, head over to the Tennessee page, so you can bitch about everything wrong.
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
7002 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 8:23 am to
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Only got one touch? Honestly, between that and Pickens only getting one target, I'm starting to think Jadon Haselwood had a point about our coaching staff.


Haselwood 6 catches for 133 yards and 1 TD.

Pickens 9 catches for 162 yards and 1 TD.

Blaylock 9 catches for 179 yards and 2 TD.

Maybe Haselwood would have been better off at UGA. We have two true freshmen receivers who are doing better than Jadon at Oklahoma.
Posted by Walkthedawg
Dawg Pound
Member since Oct 2012
11466 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 9:24 am to
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The best coaches in any sport collect the best talent and then figure out a scheme to fit that talent.


That's not true, talent helps but their process for getting a team ready is extremely important. This is an old article but a good read about some popular coaches today and what they do during a typical game week. If you decide to read and get to the bottom, there's another one about Saban's rebuild and it's pretty accurate.

7 Coaches explain

Kirby is a Saban disciple and uses those processes to put a team on the field. Talent helps, but if there are problems with the process, talent doesn't really matter, aka Michigan this year.

Edit: Foomanchoo great write up.
This post was edited on 9/24/19 at 9:25 am
Posted by DirtyDawg
President of the East Cobb Snobs
Member since Aug 2013
15539 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 9:27 am to
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Punt the year and get Fields ready for 2019 would've been the better play for Kirby



One second you're claiming you expect better coaching out of our staff, and then the next you're talking about throwing away an entire season just to groom some prima donna for a job he couldn't win on his own?

God be with us all.
Posted by SthGADawg
Member since Nov 2007
7035 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 9:41 am to
Well, I check in to see what the hell has been going on with the DawgRant and find that it is still full of individuals who just need to bitch about something...anything.

My .02?

CKS is doing a phenomenal job, we are ranked #3 (right where we should be), and we just beat ND in Athens.

Could the play calling have more spice? Maybe.
Could the playbook be opended up? Maybe.
But why do we need to do it right now?

This team is very much like the BAMA teams from Saban's early days there. Kill the opponent slowly with the run game and dominate up front with our huge line and our stable of backs. Throw when you need to.

Just because TUA is putting up stoopid numbers against bad teams doesnt mean we must do the same.

Our path to a natty does not need to mirror those around us who get there. It also doesn't mean that we can't beat them when the time comes to do so.

Relax Nancy...enjoy the ride.

Posted by jodeaux
Member since Sep 2014
1541 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 10:15 am to
We act like Fields can't play, he's having a MUCH better season than Fromm already. Twice as many TD's and a higher overall QBR in his first season starting!

It's not even a question anymore, we let the better player walk
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
17474 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 10:23 am to
Good grief. I guess the teams he played against are all much stronger than the ones we have. A troll is a troll is a troll.
Posted by Dawgirl
Member since Oct 2015
6132 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 10:32 am to
Of course Fields is having a decent start at Ohio St - Look at the cupcake teams they have played so far. Wait until he goes up against Wisconsin, Penn State, etc. Not only that, Ohio State doesn't play any SEC teams. Look what happened last time Fields went up against an SEC team.

Fields is not our QB. Fromm is. Quit dwelling on the subject and move on. Or just quit trolling altogether.
This post was edited on 9/24/19 at 10:38 am
Posted by jodeaux
Member since Sep 2014
1541 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 11:02 am to
They've played overall better competition than we have.

Indiana is basically the same team as Vanderbilt and they played two other legit D1 teams better than Ark St and Murray St
This post was edited on 9/24/19 at 11:03 am
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