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Posted on 10/18/20 at 10:56 am to DJuga06
Posted on 10/18/20 at 10:56 am to DJuga06
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From the MG article up on DN... JT Daniels won the original quarterback competition and that’s why Jamie Newman left. D’Wan Mathis is ultra-talented but he’s essentially a first-year player learning the college game while Bennett is a traveled fourth-year veteran.
The health of that knee is what’s holding us back from starting JT it appears.
That's my take.
For what it is worth, Griffith has been a vocal asshat about Stetson.
The loss last night probably validates in Griffith's mind his hard lined stance against Stetson, but i honestly think Griffith has been wrong. Stetson is playing much better than he is being given credit.
As for my personal take... stetson throttles Monken. Open receivers getting behind defenders are not getting YAC. To beat Bama or Clemson (maybe tOSU), we need someone better. But Stetson is probably giving us a better season than we got from Fromm last year. I have no problem with Bennett holding Daniels' spot till he is ready. We could do a lot worse from a plan B or C or D or E QB.
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Posted on 10/18/20 at 11:19 am to meansonny
The knee brace just came off JT Daniels. He had two procedures on his knee within the last year.
I have no doubt, healthy, he is our best option. But I don’t know the time and place to start him is on the road against Alabama, when his knee brace just came off. Imagine him having to scramble and reinjuring his knee. For the same reason I feel like Stetson has been told to not scramble as much. Because we just don’t have the depth to have him go out until Daniels is healthy.
The offense seems to respond better to Stetson than Mathis. Some of that is obviously lack of experience.
I have no doubt, healthy, he is our best option. But I don’t know the time and place to start him is on the road against Alabama, when his knee brace just came off. Imagine him having to scramble and reinjuring his knee. For the same reason I feel like Stetson has been told to not scramble as much. Because we just don’t have the depth to have him go out until Daniels is healthy.
The offense seems to respond better to Stetson than Mathis. Some of that is obviously lack of experience.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 11:28 am to Matlock
People see upside of other players but they don't think about execution.
It is hard to just administrate an offense, let lone run it.
Only a fool would have not realized stetson would get a bunch of passes knocked down by not moving him out of the pocket.
It is hard to just administrate an offense, let lone run it.
Only a fool would have not realized stetson would get a bunch of passes knocked down by not moving him out of the pocket.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 11:35 am to lewis and herschel
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Only a fool would have not realized stetson would get a bunch of passes knocked down by not moving him out of the pocket.
We can’t move the QB out of the pocket every passing play.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 12:16 pm to DJuga06
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From the MG article up on DN... JT Daniels won the original quarterback competition and that’s why Jamie Newman left. D’Wan Mathis is ultra-talented but he’s essentially a first-year player learning the college game while Bennett is a traveled fourth-year veteran.
The health of that knee is what’s holding us back from starting JT it appears.
Mike Griffith is a hack, and in this case, he is making shite up. Newman was the starter. It wasn’t close. JT hasn’t been healthy, and it was known that he wasn’t going to be ready to start the season.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 12:30 pm to claydawg09
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Florida’s D sucks but with SB idk if we can take advantage of that.
I think we run the hell out of the ball against the Lizards and we get 250 passing yards.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 12:32 pm to BossBailey345
Bennett wasn't put in a position to succeed. Short QBs have to drop back deeper to throw higher trajectory balls over linemen. Those batted balls cannot be allowed to happen over and over.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 12:33 pm to BossBailey345
Had we taken the 2nd half kickoff and driven down for a TD, or even a FG, the game might well have been a win for us. When Bama stopped our run game we had to rely on Bennett passing, and that's not what he can do.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 12:39 pm to AlaCowboy
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When Bama stopped our run game we had to rely on Bennett passing, and that's not what he can do.
When did they ever stop our run game?
We weren't "relying" on the passing game when he threw the INT near the
end zone.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 1:30 pm to RD Dawg
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When did they ever stop our run game?
We cant run consistently on third down. We are Georgia. Trey hill is our center. I thought you remembered.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 1:38 pm to meansonny
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We cant run consistently on third down. We are Georgia. Trey hill is our center. I thought you remembered.
Look at the play by play recap on our 2nd half drives.Running wasn't the issue and we threw the 3rd down pick after passing on both 1st and 2nd down.
Bama never stopped our running game.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 1:49 pm to RD Dawg
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Bama never stopped our running game.
Tennessee stopped our 3rd down running game. Arkansas stopped our 3rd down running game. If we run on 3rd and 5, 3rd and 4, 3rd and 10, 3rd and 6, 3rd and 8, and 3rd and 14 and we dont confirm, then a lot of these same posters bitch and moan about how conservative the damn playcalling is.
The point is that no one is happy when we dont convert and people like to cry themselves to sleep because they cant handle the truth that we arent converting more than 1 of the above listed 3rd downs on the ground when Bama is crowding the line.
Prior to our last drive when we were in hurry up down by 3 scores, we ran the ball 10 times and threw the ball 10 times. But because we turned the ball over on two third down throws, the sheeple say that we abandoned the run.
I wish we had a smarter fanbase. At least make sound points when we bitch after a loss.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 2:11 pm to meansonny
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I wish we had a smarter fanbase. At least make sound points when we bitch after a loss.
Please, STFU
If you really think passing the ball three straight times when we got to the Bama 35 after averaging 6 ypc I don't know what
to tell ya.
And to completely abandon the running game because of 3rd and short difficulties against different teams in different situations is beyond insipid.
We averaged more YPC vs Bama than
any other of our opponents and Arkansas and Auburn arguably have
better defenses
Every point I made was valid you arrogant prick and Kevin Butler made the exact same points post game.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 2:15 pm to AlaCowboy
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When Bama stopped our run game we had to rely on Bennett passing, and that's not what he can do.
When was that. I must have blinked.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 2:15 pm to meansonny
When did I EVER say we should run
on 3rd and 5,6 or 7 ?
We passed MULTIPLE times of 1st and 2nd down and you use our lack of success vs Arkansas on 3rd and as our reasoning?
Geez
on 3rd and 5,6 or 7 ?
We passed MULTIPLE times of 1st and 2nd down and you use our lack of success vs Arkansas on 3rd and as our reasoning?
Geez
This post was edited on 10/18/20 at 6:40 pm
Posted on 10/18/20 at 5:48 pm to meansonny
Don't think people realize that the O line as a whole is not going to grade out very well for the Alabama game. DBs too. Just because opposing QB missed his guy for a deep TD pass does not mean the DBs are absolved. When they are graded out it will be counted as a TD surrendered. Stokes has played well but others have struggled in every game so far.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 6:36 pm to Plumbdawg
That game reminded me of a Bobo called game.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 7:31 pm to meansonny
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Prior to our last drive when we were in hurry up down by 3 scores, we ran the ball 10 times and threw the ball 10 times. But because we turned the ball over on two third down throws, the sheeple say that we abandoned the run.
Everything seems stupid when it fails.
- Fyodor Dostoyevsky
Posted on 10/18/20 at 7:55 pm to Plumbdawg
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Don't think people realize that the O line as a whole is not going to grade out very well for the Alabama game. DBs too. Just because opposing QB missed his guy for a deep TD pass does not mean the DBs are absolved. When they are graded out it will be counted as a TD surrendered. Stokes has played well but others have struggled in every game so far.
We don't have many experienced true cover corners. Our guys are better against bigger, more physical receivers. Because of that if we don't get pressure on Bama we eventually get burned. In a D built to stop Bama we have someone like Campbell at safety - not as physical as Cine/LeCounte but better in coverage.
Another thing to consider. Kirby built this team like old school Bama - offensively and defensively. They're built both to run the ball and play D and to stop offensives that run the ball and play D.
That's changing. You can see the pivots in recruiting - Ringo, Carter Sherman.
All that being said, it's not the NFL. Even the all-conference players make mistakes. A team like Bama will score - period.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 8:01 pm to molardog1
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That game reminded me of a Bobo called game.
If an OC's job is to scheme opportunities to make plays, Monken earned his money. There was a series where he dialed up two straight wide open receivers in the end zone, but Stet just screwed up and whiffed. Monken did it a third time to bail Stet out, but IMO that illustrate both the difficulty of his position and the job he's doing.
Players have to be able to make plays.
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