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Posted on 10/17/20 at 11:16 pm to
Posted by Gtmodawg
PNW
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 10/17/20 at 11:16 pm to
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Same here. Daniels would be playing if he was either better or ready



I ain’t so sure. Fields is at OSU. Smart wouldn’t know a quality QB if he bit him in the arse. Stop for a moment and think about who our starting QB is in the age of the QB in CFB. Smart is by far the best coach available to UGA but he is NEVER going to win a natty. Bank it. Defense is MEANINGLESS in CFB today. Running the ball is only meaningful as a way to keep defenses honest. The game is officiated today in a manner where it is sandlot football period. It is consistent....it ain’t bad calls it’s what the game is. And Smart will never get past being a defensive back. I hope to frick he ain’t fired cause we go from winning the East most years to winning nothing most years but he will never win a natty at UGA because he actually thinks a serviceable QB is enough to win with a great defense. He is stuck in the 1990s and has proven he will not get unstuck.....and no one else will at UGA.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24555 posts
Posted on 10/17/20 at 11:22 pm to
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Same here. Daniels would be playing if he was either better or ready.


“Fields would be playing if he was better or ready”

First game Mathis starts

“Bennet would be playing if he was better or ready”

See how that just doesn’t always seem to be the case?
Posted by Snazzmeister
IHTFP
Member since Jan 2015
1077 posts
Posted on 10/17/20 at 11:51 pm to
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Our OC lost us this game too. We were running the ball at will against Alabama, and then we decided to get into a shootout.


I don’t know if I agree with this. There’s a difference between an OC putting an offense in a terrible position through play calling, which is something we’re all used to, and an offensive coordinator calling the right packages and a team being unable to execute. I may be out of line here but I saw a whole lot of missed opportunities tonight with SB missing wide open receivers and unnecessarily throwing into coverage. I think he just knew who he was throwing to before the play even developed. Missing Cook wide open in the flat would’ve been good for a 7 point swing tonight.
Posted by ugastreaker
South Ga
Member since Jun 2015
4105 posts
Posted on 10/17/20 at 11:58 pm to
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#Y did Newman quit ?


When you can't be the man or beat the man....you tuck tail and run.

Eason...Fields...Newman....it's the new way of competition. Also add racism
Posted by Bulldawg2010
Rome
Member since Oct 2013
1605 posts
Posted on 10/18/20 at 12:07 am to
You’re right.

I don’t remember the exact year maybe 2015, but I do remember ALOT of people on this board were saying we should start Fata (my memory with his name is bad) but it was the Florida game.

Right starts him, gives in to fan pressure, gets called an idiot.

Look hindsight is 20/20. Obviously now looking back on it, not letting Fields start bit us in the arse, but the point was Fromm wasn’t doing anything to LOSE us games, which is the only way a starter is going to get benched if there’s not an injury involved.

I’m not disagreeing that Bennet had some poor throws and didn’t execute. He didn’t. The QB position is by far the weakest area we have.

I just don’t think we win that game with Daniels either.

Or Mathis.

Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24555 posts
Posted on 10/18/20 at 12:12 am to
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just don’t think we win that game with Daniels either


The unknown sucks. So let’s go with what we do know. Bennett isn’t going to beat bama, we’re gonna be lucky to get by Florida and a couple others. I don’t see how Daniels could be ranked so highly and film looks great, and be that terrible. Having an 8” height advantage has to be good for something. I just know that Bennett has done all we can ask of him, and it would be nice to not be stubborn right now and try out another option, even if it’s Mathis again.

Who, by the way, started out the Arkansas game pretty well, got shook up on a hit, got messed up with flags, and now after a few games realizing Arkansas has a pretty stout D
Posted by Bulldawg2010
Rome
Member since Oct 2013
1605 posts
Posted on 10/18/20 at 12:18 am to
It does.

I mean honestly I’m up for whoever to start. Within reason. If Kirby started Daniels for the next game, it wouldn’t bother me one bit.

Since I don’t sit at practice, idk how good they are/aren’t. I just trust Kirby that he’s putting the best person in that he thinks will win the game.

If they would have pulled Bennett after his last INT, I wouldn’t have complained at all. Bc that last one was just a stupid decision.

But it’s hard for me to fault Kirby for not pulling the guy too. I mean we weren’t dominating Alabama in the first half, but he was serviceable.

But if I’m being 100% honest with you, I think our QB situation this year is fricked regardless.
Posted by NCDawg52
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2014
3151 posts
Posted on 10/18/20 at 12:32 am to
Stetson is by far our best option right now.

And that tells you all you need to know about why this team isn’t winning a title.
Posted by DJuga06
Charlotte NC
Member since Oct 2018
1054 posts
Posted on 10/18/20 at 6:35 am to
Just look at JT’s profile on the UGA website, and look at all the accolades, and tell me the guy doesn’t at least deserve a chance to play. My only thought is he’s truly not 100% healthy but with that brace finally being removed he should be by Kentucky.
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
3939 posts
Posted on 10/18/20 at 6:47 am to
If you listen to Kirby's post game, he's still got the mailman too.
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5072 posts
Posted on 10/18/20 at 7:11 am to
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If you listen to Kirby's post game, he's still got the mailman too.


What's the likelihood Monken wanted to see Mathis or Daniels but Kirby overruled?

They saw those guys for months and SB was behind both, but now he can't be supplanted? I duno.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22197 posts
Posted on 10/18/20 at 7:14 am to
I’m not. Last night showed we aren’t playing for an NC or even the SEC this year. Take your lumps and let someone with some talent get reps and get better.
Posted by DJuga06
Charlotte NC
Member since Oct 2018
1054 posts
Posted on 10/18/20 at 7:59 am to
I don’t know that this is completely accurate. I don’t think he was ever ahead of a healthy Daniels, problem is we don’t know if he’s actually healthy.
Posted by Gtmodawg
PNW
Member since Dec 2019
4580 posts
Posted on 10/18/20 at 8:44 am to
The issue is we have Bennet, Mathis and Daniels and Bennett has beat the last 2 to the starting qb job. Jake Fromm beat Justin Fields and Jacob Eason to the starting QB job. Jake Fromm had a SPECTACULAR freshman season and regressed....Eason leaves, Fields leaves, Newman arrives and leaves, Daniels is either not healthy enough to be here or not better in the coaches mind than Bennett and the same goes for Mathis. As it did for fields and Fromm. It kind of appears we may have a problem judging QB talent, no? Or we have a problem with recruiting and retaining QB talent. Either way in an era where the game is based on qb play we have had game managers at best.......and it’s been nice to be among the top 6-7 teams in the nation and beat UT, UF and Auburn.....but that is all we are. We ain’t Bama or Clemson and it ain’t even close. With the way the game is officiated today....it is fair, it goes both ways, if this team played Bama and Clemson 100 times each we would lose by 10 or more points 100 times to both of them. Most likely Ohio State also. Unless Smart figures out the QB situation and we play football as it is played at the top today we aren’t winning anything meaningful any time soon. I know we have a stable of great QB recruits in the wings....but if they are mismanaged and only allowed to be game managers it will be more of the same.

I love Kirby ball. It is what football is supposed to be. It’s not what football is today. I am not suggesting smart be fired, that is beyond ridiculous. What I am saying is we are going to have to be satisfied with being #6 or so and winning the SEC east because that’s who we are. The OM and Bama game this year is what CFB is going to be.

The question is how long can Smart recruit enough talent to remain on the top 6 and win the SEC east? If he can maintain that level of recruiting in my opinion he has a job for as long as he wants it. But it is becoming pretty clear he ain’t winning a natty. Not in modern CFB where defense is irrelevant.
Posted by Gtmodawg
PNW
Member since Dec 2019
4580 posts
Posted on 10/18/20 at 8:47 am to
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I’m not. Last night showed we aren’t playing for an NC or even the SEC this year. Take your lumps and let someone with some talent get reps and get better


We are playing for the SEC East title and Bennett can win that as lousy as the rest of the schedule is. But we ain’t winning the SEC or a natty. At best we are the 5 or 6 best team in the nation in what passes for football today.
Posted by NCDawg52
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2014
3151 posts
Posted on 10/18/20 at 10:04 am to
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Just look at JT’s profile on the UGA website, and look at all the accolades, and tell me the guy doesn’t at least deserve a chance to play. My only thought is he’s truly not 100% healthy but with that brace finally being removed he should be by Kentucky.


He isn’t healthy. His knee isn’t there yet. It is 50/50 whether he plays at all this year.
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5072 posts
Posted on 10/18/20 at 10:13 am to
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Bennett has beat the last 2 to the starting qb job.


No. Mathis beat Stetson for the starting job then got pulled before his fifth drive in a game where the offense did him zero favors.

We can't speak with certainty about accuracy, but he has a stronger arm, and he's more athletic, and he's obviously not a worry to have balls batted.

As for JT, he was getting the first team reps that Mathis wasn't. That's not Stetson beating him out.
This post was edited on 10/18/20 at 10:18 am
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5072 posts
Posted on 10/18/20 at 10:23 am to
I don't care about an East championship. If sacrificing that is the cost of developing the QB that wins a natty in the future then sign me up.

I like Stetson a lot. I wish he were the guy. But I already have an idea of where Stet can take us, and I'm just not interested.
This post was edited on 10/18/20 at 10:24 am
Posted by DJuga06
Charlotte NC
Member since Oct 2018
1054 posts
Posted on 10/18/20 at 10:39 am to
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He isn’t healthy. His knee isn’t there yet. It is 50/50 whether he plays at all this year.


From the MG article up on DN... JT Daniels won the original quarterback competition and that’s why Jamie Newman left. D’Wan Mathis is ultra-talented but he’s essentially a first-year player learning the college game while Bennett is a traveled fourth-year veteran.

The health of that knee is what’s holding us back from starting JT it appears.
Posted by GaDawg9977
Member since Aug 2016
2399 posts
Posted on 10/18/20 at 10:44 am to
I’m not buying JT isn’t better than SB4. Knee might still be a problem but there is not doubt he is better.
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