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re: Holloman removed from UGA football team following assault allegations
Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:13 pm to tylerdurden24
Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:13 pm to tylerdurden24
I've never hit a woman and never would. My stance is that it's bullshite women think they can just start hitting men in the face and expect them to just sit and take it. Everyone has a right to defend themselves against assault. Even if it is a woman. It's 2019, I thought we were supposed to treat everyone equally? Why are we still treating women like lesser beings?
All that said, we don't even know if she actually hit him so it's all speculation. If he wasn't defending himself then frick that POS. But I cannot find myself getting upset for a guy defending himself, if that's what happened.
All that said, we don't even know if she actually hit him so it's all speculation. If he wasn't defending himself then frick that POS. But I cannot find myself getting upset for a guy defending himself, if that's what happened.
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Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:22 pm to Barstools
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Why are we still treating women like lesser beings?
I’ll put it this way: Mrs Durden is a strong woman who played multiple sports growing up. She can land a few and do some damage if provoked. But she didn’t play football and hockey and sports that guys play that require getting hit growing up. She bruises like a peach and we both know who would win a fight between the two of us and there isn’t any defying of gender norms that’s going to equalize that. Physiologically speaking, I and most men have an upper hand the average woman isn’t going to be able to beat. The fight isn’t fair and THAT is why you don’t retaliate (extreme circumstances notwithstanding).
Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:23 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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If you read the police report, he choked her to the point there were bruises all over her neck.
You don't choke someone with both hands in self-defense. You choke someone with both hands to kill them.
If this is the case then he is simply a POS. My post was purely in response to the poster that said she was hitting him in the face and he retaliated. Which, doesn't actually seem to be the case.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:32 pm to tylerdurden24
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The fight isn’t fair and THAT is why you don’t retaliate (extreme circumstances notwithstanding).
Do you go around provoking people that are bigger and stronger than you? No, because you know you will lose. Well, I am saying, maybe women shouldn't provoke stronger individuals then be shocked when they get hit back and it hurts.
Anyway, it seems like it's all a moot point since the POS was strangling her. That's a whole different story.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:38 pm to Barstools
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Do you go around provoking people that are bigger and stronger than you? No, because you know you will lose. Well, I am saying, maybe women shouldn't provoke stronger individuals then be shocked when they get hit back and it hurts.
My earlier point was that provocation has outcomes beyond an arse kicking. You pick a fight you know you’ll lose when you want to bait someone into doing something they can’t take back. Just like a fist fight between a man and woman isn’t a fair fight, neither is a legal battle between a man and woman when she’s got bruises. Difference is some bruises will heal in short order while others can last a hell of a lot longer.
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Anyway, it seems like it's all a moot point since the POS was strangling her. That's a whole different story.
Agreed.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 9:00 pm to tylerdurden24
God, what a waste. Putting hands on a woman and blowing his chance. No sympathy for the kid and the selfish part of me resents what he’s done to the program. Embarrassed his team and family and put them both in a bad position. No sympathy for the kid.
I read some of this thread and while I don’t think the world is crumbling I am far more concerned about our WR depth and I’ve already been very concerned. Lot of folks have to do some growing up, that’s for sure.
I’ve been disappointed in arrests but this one flat out pisses me off.
I read some of this thread and while I don’t think the world is crumbling I am far more concerned about our WR depth and I’ve already been very concerned. Lot of folks have to do some growing up, that’s for sure.
I’ve been disappointed in arrests but this one flat out pisses me off.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 9:29 pm to fibonaccisquared
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If the story went down as described, this was a female D1 athlete who was by at least some accounts hitting him in the face... He reacted poorly, and he is going to pay the price for it...
Posted on 6/21/19 at 9:40 pm to Spunky
Just saw the strangling part. I brief lapse in judgment while in the heat of an argument at a young age is something that can be forgiven if the right steps are taken afterwards to learn from your mistakes and better yourself from them. Strangling is where the line is drawn from lapse in judgement to lack of a conscience. Good riddance
Posted on 6/21/19 at 10:46 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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It's basically like watching the exact same thing.
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It's basically like watching the exact same thing.
LINK......
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Posted on 6/21/19 at 11:13 pm to DawgCountry
This is probably moot but why exactly did she wait 14 months to report the incident to the police?
Perhaps as suggested in the Covington News story:
Doesn't change the outcome but does make you wonder about the mentality of the victim. She only decides to report the incident after learning that Holloman was dating an acquaintance a year later? In other words...revenge?
Perhaps as suggested in the Covington News story:
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Holloman, however, told UGAPD the victim had contacted him prior to filing the report. Holloman said the victim said “she was upset about him dating someone else that attends the same school as her.” He added that she sent “threatening text messages saying that ‘she would have someone get him.’”
Doesn't change the outcome but does make you wonder about the mentality of the victim. She only decides to report the incident after learning that Holloman was dating an acquaintance a year later? In other words...revenge?
Posted on 6/21/19 at 11:21 pm to Lucius Clay
Posted on 6/21/19 at 11:37 pm to Barstools
Whoever insinuates that a woman and a man are equal in a fight is a trailer trash POS. Take that shite to the Bama/AU/TN, etc. boards. If a man ever hits a woman, he’s a count and deserves what he gets.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 11:41 pm to Cobb Dawg
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Cobb Dawg
Preach
Posted on 6/22/19 at 12:25 am to Cobb Dawg
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If a man ever hits a woman, he’s a count and deserves what he gets.
Oh geeze. Enough already.
I so wish there was a DawgYard so that cool posters could get away from you squares.
It would be nirvana. And would never die and go away from boredom.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 3:41 am to NCDawg52
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Don’t think I’m being more negative so much as it seems everyone is being over the top optimistic about this coming season. Road to a national title is very difficult and it’s unlikely that we get it done in 2019. Losing our only proven competent pass catcher is a big kick in the dick as well.
You certainly are being overly negative here. This guy isnt the 2nd coming like you are making him out to be.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 7:37 am to NCDawg52
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Don’t think I’m being more negative so much as it seems everyone is being over the top optimistic about this coming season. Road to a national title is very difficult and it’s unlikely that we get it done in 2019.
I do think people are being optimistic, but I also think there’s good reason. It feels like you’re looking for any potential flaw and then using that solely as reasons we won’t win instead of trying to combine that with our better areas.
It’s fine if you’re not optimistic, but it seems like you’re unreasonably negative right now.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 8:52 am to Dawgsontop34
Wasn't Holloman one of the rocket scientists responsible for the dipshit epidemic of dropping balls on purpose before even crossing the goal line last year?
One dipshit humiliates himself and the program by doing it at South Carolina. And after Kirby going ballistic and taking measures so it never happens again..... Holloman does the exact same thing again the very next week at miZzzouri.
This is probably a blessing in disguise.
One dipshit humiliates himself and the program by doing it at South Carolina. And after Kirby going ballistic and taking measures so it never happens again..... Holloman does the exact same thing again the very next week at miZzzouri.
This is probably a blessing in disguise.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 9:31 am to Jefferson Dawg
This in no way can be turned into a positive for the team on the field. The bottom line is he was one of our most important players in one of our least experienced positions. No way around that. Next man up and it will likely be an inexperienced player stepping up.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 10:02 am to Dawgsontop34
Hard to judge what is reasonable or unreasonable as it pertains to expectations for 2019. I get the sense that most are thinking 11-1 or 12-0 with a playoff/natty run. I look at the team and the schedule and see 9-3.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 10:03 am to Chainsaw Massaquoi
I agree. It in no way helps.
But we have been recruiting well lately. And we have veterans like Simmons. And who knows... maybe Fromm will look to the tight ends more in the progressions (it looked like a very NFL approach in the spring game).
Next man up.
But we have been recruiting well lately. And we have veterans like Simmons. And who knows... maybe Fromm will look to the tight ends more in the progressions (it looked like a very NFL approach in the spring game).
Next man up.
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