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re: Damn hard to watch OSU this weekend
Posted on 10/26/20 at 1:32 pm to RD Dawg
Posted on 10/26/20 at 1:32 pm to RD Dawg
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So why wasn't Tua the starting QB at Bama his freshman year?
He was OBVIOUSLY a more talented QB than Hurts.
Why did Saban recruit em if wasn't gonna be starting?
They're was never a point that season where he could have supplanted Jalen. The first time Jalen really struggled Tua got his shot. And even when Jalen was playing well they looked for opportunities to work Tua in to run the offense.
Fromm wasn't great for the first part of that season - and he was awful v LSU, but Fields still never got a real shot. We were talking on this board about how Fromm wasn't responding well to the QB controversy, and the speculation was that his improvement over the second half was partly due to Kirby having Fields step back.
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Posted on 10/26/20 at 1:35 pm to DawgCountry
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What was stated as fact other than what is factquote:
His first second as a starter he was the better player
At the end of 2018 this was not a fact
Me: Shaq is taller than Gary Coleman. That's a fact.
You: Well, when he was a newborn that wasn’t a fact.
Me: . . .
Posted on 10/26/20 at 1:37 pm to dhuck20
Fromm was turning the ball over with interceptions and fumbles. Fromm plays weren't averaging as many yards as Fields plays. Fields was performing better even though he was being sandbagged.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 1:38 pm to Crowknowsbest
What was the "right time" for Fields?
LSU game?
Fromm had the 2nd best QB year in
UGA history in '18 and finished 3rd nationality in QBR and you're
projecting Fields has a better year in '18? With Chaney's offense?
You think he does better vs Bama in the SECCG?
LSU game?
Fromm had the 2nd best QB year in
UGA history in '18 and finished 3rd nationality in QBR and you're
projecting Fields has a better year in '18? With Chaney's offense?
You think he does better vs Bama in the SECCG?
Posted on 10/26/20 at 1:48 pm to chillmonster
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They're was never a point that season where he could have supplanted Jalen.
What? He was mediocre vs A&M at best and flat out horrible against LSU .Bama folks were screaming for Tua
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Fromm wasn't great for the first part of that season
He was fine the 1st part of the season have no idea why this is a narrative.
This post was edited on 10/26/20 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 10/26/20 at 1:48 pm to RD Dawg
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LSU game?
Yes
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you're
projecting Fields has a better year in '18?
Not necessarily. I am saying that, at the the very least, giving him a chance with Fromm being a mess at LSU at least demonstrates a willingness to have a real QB competition that Fields could actually be allowed to win entering 2019. Not playing him cast doubt on the prospect of Smart ever going away from Fromm, no matter how he played.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 2:11 pm to RD Dawg
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What was the "right time" for Fields?
LSU game?
Yes
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Fromm had the 2nd best QB year in
UGA history in '18 and finished 3rd nationality in QBR and you're
projecting Fields has a better year in '18? With Chaney's offense?
You think he does better vs Bama in the SECCG?
I'm not talking about the end of the season. I'm talking about giving a more talented player a fair shot to win a job.
Fromm wasn't great the first half of that season - he wasn't - and he was awful vs LSU. If you're Fields and you don't get a shot then why would you possibly stay? I'm not saying give anyone anything other than a real shot to compete. If we're not going to do that then we should recruit one elite QB every 3 years and just hope he pans out.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 2:43 pm to chillmonster
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I'm talking about giving a more talented player a fair shot to win a job.
Once again,why wasn't Tua "given a shot" to win the starting position in '17? Hurts did in fact struggle and Tua was obviously the more talented QB.
How do you know Fields wasn't "given a shot" over the course of all those practices and fall camp?
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Fromm wasn't great the first half of that season
He was completing over 70% of his
passes and had thrown for 12 TD's
and 2 INT's going into the LSU game.
Why in the world do you keep saying this?
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we're not going to do that then we should recruit one elite QB every 3 years and just hope he pans out.
You should always recruit any elite QB if you have room on the roster.Too bad Fields had a street agent in his ear instead of being patient with the process.
This post was edited on 10/26/20 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 10/26/20 at 2:58 pm to RD Dawg
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Once again,why wasn't Tua "given a shot" to win the starting position in '17? Hurts did in fact struggle and Tua was obviously the more talented QB.
Already answered. If you're not going to read anyone's reponses why should anyone discuss anything with you? Repeating your questions isn't making an argument.
Fromm was pedestrian for the first half of that season. Check the game logs. Watch the games. It's just true.
Seems like you're reverting to that annoying, internet troll discourse. I'll just abstain before this devolves.
This post was edited on 10/26/20 at 3:14 pm
Posted on 10/26/20 at 3:38 pm to Crowknowsbest
quote:Agree with all of this. Well said.
Not necessarily. I am saying that, at the the very least, giving him a chance with Fromm being a mess at LSU at least demonstrates a willingness to have a real QB competition that Fields could actually be allowed to win entering 2019. Not playing him cast doubt on the prospect of Smart ever going away from Fromm, no matter how he played.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 4:01 pm to chillmonster
What?
I proved 2 of your statements were definitely wrong in the "discourse" and you choose to ignore both points.
You couldn't have been more wrong about either statement but you choose to deflect,call me a "troll" or refuse to discuss the subject any further.
And I'm having a "troll discourse?"
I proved 2 of your statements were definitely wrong in the "discourse" and you choose to ignore both points.
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Fromm wasn't great the first half of that season
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They're was never a point that season where he could have supplanted Jalen. The first time Jalen really struggled Tua got his shot
You couldn't have been more wrong about either statement but you choose to deflect,call me a "troll" or refuse to discuss the subject any further.
And I'm having a "troll discourse?"
Posted on 10/26/20 at 4:28 pm to SquatchDawg
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Posted on 10/26/20 at 5:27 pm to RD Dawg
There is absolutely no doubt Bama fans were screaming for Tua all year. Yet, August Tua vs December Tua were not the same player. He was able to learn the system and come in without pressure until the very last game. That is such an important aspect of a QB that is not static.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 7:18 pm to chillmonster
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It's play the best players, not take the least risk.
Bingo. It's also Kirby's stubbornness.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 10:19 pm to chillmonster
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Step away from the Georgia fan base and almost everyone regardless of affiliation will tell you it was a mistake.
But they will fail to acknowledge that nearly every coach would make the same decision, just as you do.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 10:30 pm to djsdawg
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But they will fail to acknowledge that nearly every coach would make the same decision, just as you do.
What decision are you taking about?
Posted on 10/26/20 at 10:35 pm to chillmonster
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The first time Jalen really struggled Tua got his shot.
This isnt true. He struggled big time vs AU, and that game was seemingly a game Bama had to win to make the playoffs, and he sat on the bench the whole time.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 10:37 pm to chillmonster
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If you're Fields and you don't get a shot then why would you possibly stay?
In years past, he would have stayed because you couldnt transfer without sitting out a season. Just terrible luck he didnt have to do that.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 10:39 pm to chillmonster
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Fromm was pedestrian for the first half of that season.
Passer ratings of 181, 185, 217, 198, 255, and 141 is well above pedestrian.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 10:51 pm to chillmonster
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What decision are you taking about?
To bench a high quality returning starter at QB. Thats not a move coaches make.
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