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re: Damn hard to watch OSU this weekend
Posted on 10/26/20 at 12:29 pm to dhuck20
Posted on 10/26/20 at 12:29 pm to dhuck20
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Crow don't be obtuse. You know there's a huge difference in year 2 vs year 1 with a QB.
Not that big of a difference.
By week 1 of 2019 at the absolute latest, Justin Fields (in a new offense at OSU) was a significantly better football player than Jake Fromm. There is nothing anyone can say to convince me that somehow Fromm was so clearly better in 2018 that he was in-benchable, and one spring at OSU made all the difference.
This post was edited on 10/26/20 at 12:31 pm
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Posted on 10/26/20 at 12:29 pm to dhuck20
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You didn't answer how Fields was definitely outperforming Fromm in 2018...
Wrong person, chief.
Fields didn't get a chance to win the position. If he had gotten it he almost certainly would have won it. He's that much better.
If that was going to be the plan then don't recruit him.
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As I stated before, a team's and QB's psyche is a delicate thing
The worst argument ever. You don't give a guy a chance to compete because the other guy doesn't handle competition well? Absurd.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 12:30 pm to deeprig9
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Fields should have started day one, for the whole season, and fromm should have been on the bench, because kirby didn't honor competition, and blah blah moron talk blah blah"
That isn’t my argument, for the record.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 12:31 pm to Crowknowsbest
Posted on 10/26/20 at 12:33 pm to chillmonster
I mean you might be right but I think he is too. If I was a die hard Kentucky fan I might be able to tell you what the problem with their offense is. But I’m not so I can only assume and guess. I don’t read all the detailed summaries about them and watch them intently like I do our own team. I think anyone here would give you the fact that Fields should have been given the second half, totally free, against LSU. But it’s also not like Fromm was 2019 Fromm bad after that.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 12:33 pm to Crowknowsbest
quote:Do you honestly believe this? He scored 2 of our 5 TD's, one with a 17 point lead after Fromm and co. drove the field and the other with a 19 point lead with a few minutes left in the game.
Fields was UGA’s biggest playmaker in that one.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 12:35 pm to dhuck20
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He scored 2 of our 5 TD's, one with a 17 point lead after Fromm and co. drove the field and the other with a 19 point lead with a few minutes left in the game.
I mean no one else really stands out, but I’ll grant that that is a debatable point. It doesn’t really matter and is really irrelevant to my overall point.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 12:38 pm to Peter Buck
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Seems like the “public” is fickle
A lot has happened since then.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 12:42 pm to chillmonster
quote:If this is your honest position, I can't go any further.
If he had gotten it he almost certainly would have won it. He's that much better.
quote:Just because you don't like the answer, doesn't mean it isn't/wasn't a factor for CKS. Fromm had just won the Rose Bowl and played in the NCG as a freshman. He hadn't lost the job either although I'll admit the Fields should have gotten substantial playing time vs LSU. (BTW, Fromm followed that performance up with perhaps one of his best in his career vs UF)
The worst argument ever. You don't give a guy a chance to compete because the other guy doesn't handle competition well? Absurd.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 12:45 pm to deeprig9
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like Kirby told Fields to get lost.
What? Fromm getting the start over Fields wasn't Kriby telling him to get lost. Fields left because he didn't get a chance to play beyond garbage time and short yardage QB draws. Fromm showed intangibles that earned him the starting job. His overall performance fell off in his third year. Fields might have been given the starting job then. But to say Kirby told Fields to get lost is absurd.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 12:47 pm to dhuck20
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If he had gotten it he almost certainly would have won it. He's that much better.
If this is your honest position, I can't go any further.
Wait. You don't agree Fields likely beats Fromm in an honest competition? His first second as a starter he was the better player.
Man, at least try to be objective.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 12:51 pm to wizatlanta
At end of the 2018 season, Fromm looked like the better QB. However, we never really gave Fields a fair shot. Fromm should have been benched in the LSU game and we should have given Fields an opportunity.
It's not as easy as saying Kirby chose Fromm over Fields. But, I think anyone with common sense can see Fields is a far better athlete and has the superior arm when compared with Fromm. Kirby should have seen this.
It's not as easy as saying Kirby chose Fromm over Fields. But, I think anyone with common sense can see Fields is a far better athlete and has the superior arm when compared with Fromm. Kirby should have seen this.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 12:54 pm to chillmonster
People can’t have this argument without 2019 Fromm and 2019/2020 Fields clouding their judgement.
I don’t know if Fields would have won a “competition” in 2018. Neither do you. That’s why I said it was pointless to argue it because you posted it as though it was objective fact.
I do believe that Kirby did the best thing in his mind to put the (I’ll say it again) 2018 Georgia Bulldogs in the best position to win football games. I don’t have inside knowledge as to how Fields was performing in practice or his overall knowledge of the offense and neither do you.
I don’t know if Fields would have won a “competition” in 2018. Neither do you. That’s why I said it was pointless to argue it because you posted it as though it was objective fact.
I do believe that Kirby did the best thing in his mind to put the (I’ll say it again) 2018 Georgia Bulldogs in the best position to win football games. I don’t have inside knowledge as to how Fields was performing in practice or his overall knowledge of the offense and neither do you.
This post was edited on 10/26/20 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 10/26/20 at 12:57 pm to dhuck20
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you posted it as though it was objective fact.
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I don’t have inside knowledge .....and neither do you.
This is Chillmonster's (and others) main problem. They state shite as fact, simply because they believe it. If they believe it, they can't possibly be wrong.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 1:03 pm to deeprig9
What was stated as fact other than what is fact?
This post was edited on 10/26/20 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 10/26/20 at 1:08 pm to chillmonster
Were you raised without a father?
Posted on 10/26/20 at 1:14 pm to deeprig9
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Were you raised without a father?
We're you raised without a brain?
Posted on 10/26/20 at 1:19 pm to chillmonster
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Fields didn't get a chance to win the position. If he had gotten it he almost certainly would have won it. He's that much better.
So why wasn't Tua the starting QB at Bama his freshman year?
He was OBVIOUSLY a more talented QB than Hurts.
Why did Saban recruit em if wasn't gonna be starting?
Posted on 10/26/20 at 1:27 pm to chillmonster
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What was stated as fact other than what is fact
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His first second as a starter he was the better player.
At the end of 2018 this was not a fact
Posted on 10/26/20 at 1:27 pm to RD Dawg
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So why wasn't Tua the starting QB at Bama his freshman year?
I don’t know, but they got him in there just in time.
Can’t say the same for us, unfortunately.
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