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you had to know it would be an issue for DeBoer this year

Posted on 10/22/24 at 6:56 am
Posted by stephendomalley
alexandria
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 10/22/24 at 6:56 am
Milroe is a great college qb but he is not the guy for running the offense that DeBoer likes to run. DeBoer had Michael Pennix last year, a guy who stood in the pocket and delivered strike after strike.

Milroe is not that type of qb. Saban's OC figured out how to use him last year but this staff has not. I said many times there is no offense if they lose Williams. We saw how dependent Milroe is on that one receiver. He expects to throw the ball in his direction and he will catch it.

Looks like there are a lot of alabama fans who get it, and are staying calm. But there is a lot of trolling going on, because everyone is petty sick of entitled Alabama fans.

It's going to be interesting to see how things play out. If Alabama can beat LSU they can easily go 10-2. Right now I would expect the Tigers to beat Alabama, but that game is 3 weeks off. If LSU wins that game, it's going to get ugly in T-town.
Posted by PoundTheRock
Member since Oct 2024
1025 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 7:01 am to
I told everyone all off season that Penix made Doboer and not the other way around and was met with a bunch of nonsense saying Doboer is almost undefeated in whatever tiny division 2 dump he was at before Washington.

Washington was a senior ladden team with NFL WRs and an NFL QB with a good defense also led by veterans last year in a weaker conference.

It truly was Doboer's lightning in a bottle season. Doubt he will ever repeat that.

Bama has the talent, but they just don't look nearly as prepared as before and seem to be regressing and that falls down onto coaching.
This post was edited on 10/22/24 at 7:37 am
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
14233 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 7:19 am to
It blows my mind that this is surprising anybody. Alabama is going from the best coach in college football history to somebody else, of course there will be some growing pains. I work with a few die hard Alabama fans and they were already referring to Deboer as "DaBear" before he even coached a game. Nick Saban's tenure at Alabama is the exception, not the rule. Based on Deboers history I'm expecting him to turn it around the next year or two. He won't ever be Saban or Kirby but he will probably have mostly 10 win seasons with some playoff appearances/nattys here and there.
Posted by tideguy
Member since Dec 2020
249 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 7:33 am to
Problem is, Deboer came in thinking he could do things better than Saban, and made a LOT of unnecessary changes.
He would have been better off just showing up and letting the machine keep running itself, instead of fricking with it and screwing everything up.

I 100% believe that is Kirby, Sark, or even Kiffin had come in, Bama would be undefeated right now. Those guys would have understood the culture, and how thing work around there.
Posted by Jabontik
Houston
Member since Dec 2016
3639 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 7:36 am to
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Based on Deboers history I'm expecting him to turn it around the next year or two.



You mean that history where he built a fantasy winning percentage in NAIA at the University of Sioux Falls, South Dakota playing most games in front of 400 people, then bounced around as OC for southern Illinois, Eastern Michigan and Fresno State?

The history that saw DeBoer get his first head coaching job at a p5 school a short 2 years ago, and inherit a team with a first round, #8 overall NFL QB and NFL WR's?

Ok, yeah based on that history.....actually I have no idea what to expect based on that history. He's a lucky frick I'll give him that.
Posted by PoundTheRock
Member since Oct 2024
1025 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 7:40 am to
I don't understand why more head coaches can't keep their egos in check.

If it's not broke, don't try to fix it.
Posted by Dixie Normus
Earth
Member since Sep 2013
2768 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 7:40 am to
He followed the best coach of all time. The only direction it could go is down and I don’t at that as a slight to DeBoer. He might be just fine, but to expect another best of all time is just flat out unrealistic.
Posted by Dallaswho
Texas
Member since Dec 2023
2551 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 7:45 am to
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He would have been better off just showing up and letting the machine keep running itself, instead of fricking with it and screwing everything up


Ok, so he does that and maybe you beat Vandy or 10r. Maybe beat GA, maybe not. Thing is, leaving it alone is only delaying inevitable changes.
You should see it as a good thing that he is quickly making the program his own. Now you can actually blame him instead of the university if you still suck in 3-4 years.
Posted by Tarpon08
Cut Off, LA
Member since Dec 2014
6361 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 7:46 am to
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I told everyone all off season


You joined in October.

Unless........

You once posted here under a different name or two.......






Nevermind I'm sorry. There's no way that could be possible.
Posted by Fearless and True
N Carolina
Member since Aug 2022
1135 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 7:59 am to
An entire generation of bandwagon Bama fans are not familiar with the Mike years.
Posted by SEC Doctor
Member since Aug 2024
6426 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 8:00 am to
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You joined in October.


Posted by Quicksilver
Poker Room
Member since Jan 2013
11666 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 8:03 am to
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The history that saw DeBoer get his first head coaching job at a p5 school a short 2 years ago, and inherit a team with a first round, #8 overall NFL QB and NFL WR's?


He brought Penix with him actually. He did a solid job of picking up good players through the portal at UW. He's a very good offensive mind and had Indiana winning at a high level with his offense. OP is correct in that Milroe simply does not fit the offense.

That's only one of Bama's problems this year though. They don't appear to have that dominant edge rusher that they usually have and are softer in the secondary than usual. Saban probably knew what he was doing when he retired.
This post was edited on 10/22/24 at 8:05 am
Posted by geauxcoco
Greenville, SC
Member since Apr 2007
11606 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 8:10 am to
quote:

He would have been better off just showing up and letting the machine keep running itself, instead of fricking with it and screwing everything up.


He’s his own damn head coach. He didn’t get to where he is today doing that. Of course he changed some things. That’s what any respectable coach would’ve done. If you expect any coach to just come in there and just try to run things just like Saban did then you’re just gonna have a bunch of shitty coaches from here on out. No one is Saban, you have to find a new way. Hey, LSU has found three coaches in a row to get it done, with BK looking like he will be 4th eventually. There is hope for you big dog!
Posted by geauxcoco
Greenville, SC
Member since Apr 2007
11606 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 8:10 am to
N/m
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Posted by geauxcoco
Greenville, SC
Member since Apr 2007
11606 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 8:10 am to
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Posted by geauxcoco
Greenville, SC
Member since Apr 2007
11606 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 8:10 am to
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This post was edited on 10/22/24 at 8:12 am
Posted by mudshuvl05
Member since Nov 2023
1717 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 8:20 am to
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I 100% believe that is Kirby, Sark, or even Kiffin had come in, Bama would be undefeated right now. Those guys would have understood the culture, and how thing work around there.
You'd be 100% wrong yall suck donkey dicks baw.

Welcome to the sugar ditch Bama fans.
Posted by LetzGeaux
Member since Feb 2017
303 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 8:47 am to
Deboer is a good coach. Alabama will still be a good team. We are used to seeing the team being run like the marine corps. Everyone knew the coach coming after Saban was in deep shite. With a little discipline and a new qb that team is as dangerous as it’s always been.
Posted by DaBama
Helena, AL
Member since Oct 2011
1673 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 9:22 am to
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Problem is, Deboer came in thinking he could do things better than Saban, and made a LOT of unnecessary changes.


Another big problem was that he knew that the talent on his team could jump ship if he didn't play his cards right. His players were allowed to transfer out but he wasn't allowed to replace them. Some of the more "valuable" players might have let it go to their head. Malachi Moore is a good example.
Posted by theballguy
Between DC and Colorado
Member since Oct 2011
18737 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 9:26 am to
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there is a lot of trolling going on, because everyone is petty sick of entitled Alabama fans.


What goes up, must inevitably come down.

If anything, that Vandy loss softened the blow big time at least for the discerning Bama fan.
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