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re: Would we welcome GTech back to the conference with open arms?
Posted on 7/6/22 at 8:37 am to lewis and herschel
Posted on 7/6/22 at 8:37 am to lewis and herschel
quote:What a jackass!
The Mississippi schools were the ones as Dodd didnt travel to backwoods Mississippi and made those schools come to Atlanta hell, he tried the same with LSU.
So he didn't like SEC schools processing out players and basically over-signing, he refused to travel to other SEC stadiums, and he wanted to keep all bowl revenue for his school rather than share with the conference? What a jackass!
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Posted on 7/6/22 at 8:38 am to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
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What would they bring over Clemson, FSU, NC St, or VT?
what would FSU bring?
I keep seeing them mentioned. they had their chance. They passed.
Posted on 7/6/22 at 8:39 am to finchmeister08
The 140 rule was a sticky issue (eventually we went 85 so Dodd was undercutting it) but the bigger issue is GT was was ready to go and not play in a revenue sharing scenario. The sec, or any other conference, did not bank like it does today and many schools, penn st, notre dame, Florida st. South Carolina, Miami, thought it best to go solo. As mentioned, he also had a problem having to go ms and Louisiana and thought it best for those schools to just play them in Atlanta.
As far as playing GT again. I’m not against it. Bama played tech every year up thru 84 and auburn thru 87. UGA goes without saying. I personally loved the series. Would have zero problems with them back in.
As far as playing GT again. I’m not against it. Bama played tech every year up thru 84 and auburn thru 87. UGA goes without saying. I personally loved the series. Would have zero problems with them back in.
This post was edited on 7/6/22 at 8:42 am
Posted on 7/6/22 at 8:48 am to TouchdownTony
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The sec, or any other conference, did not bank like it does today and many schools, penn st, notre dame, Florida st. South Carolina, Miami, thought it best to go solo.
well, to be fair, FSU was a women's college until 1947. They didn't start playing football until 1948. (they did play from 1902-1905 before it became an all women's college)
Posted on 7/6/22 at 8:49 am to TutHillTiger
“They left after Alabama nearly murdered one of their players with illegal hits and go basically no penalty or sanction, I think it caused permanent brain damage, they were mega pissed at that and all the bama cheating in recruiting, the same shite that almost caused Florida to leave”
This was his woe is me excuse he always used but hard hits and injuries were football and frankly his teams were not getting the best players anymore but His number one problem was sharing money. Nobody else complained about Bama and their physicality so…
As far as Florida leaving, never heard about that.
This was his woe is me excuse he always used but hard hits and injuries were football and frankly his teams were not getting the best players anymore but His number one problem was sharing money. Nobody else complained about Bama and their physicality so…
As far as Florida leaving, never heard about that.
Posted on 7/6/22 at 9:02 am to finchmeister08
I was around when Dodd left the conference. He and the teckmites got way too big for their panties. They were under the impression they were much more important than they actually were. Dodd held most of the conference in disdain. He would not travel to the Mississippi schools. John Vaught at Ole Miss had no love for Dodd. If my memory serves me Auburn played them a lot more in Atlanta than at Auburn. They also used to play Clemson and Clemson had to go to Atlanta whenever they played. Haughtiness caused them to leave and they essentially went into the tank within a few years with a few years of success sprinkled in the mix.
They made overtures in the early 1970s to come back in the conference and it was greeted with a blast of apathy by the SEC. Vaught was quoted as saying that as long as he had anything to do with it they were never coming back in the conference.
Their attendance is pitiful. When Georgia plays them in Atlanta there is more red in the stands than gold. A number of coaches have tried to resurrect the ghosts of glories past but have had limited results. Their glory days are but a distant memory with fewer and fewer people around than can remember that far back.
They made overtures in the early 1970s to come back in the conference and it was greeted with a blast of apathy by the SEC. Vaught was quoted as saying that as long as he had anything to do with it they were never coming back in the conference.
Their attendance is pitiful. When Georgia plays them in Atlanta there is more red in the stands than gold. A number of coaches have tried to resurrect the ghosts of glories past but have had limited results. Their glory days are but a distant memory with fewer and fewer people around than can remember that far back.
Posted on 7/6/22 at 9:05 am to Cheese Grits
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They were good back in the days
Won 3 MNC's in 3 different Eras with 3 different coaches and Heisman coached there at one time.
They weren't when they left. Not even close.
Posted on 7/6/22 at 9:09 am to finchmeister08
does it have to be open arms?
Posted on 7/6/22 at 9:13 am to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
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What would they bring over Clemson
A basic ability to speak the English language, literacy and access to running water and electricity are a few things.
This post was edited on 7/6/22 at 9:16 am
Posted on 7/6/22 at 9:15 am to Porter Osborne Jr
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They were good back in the days
Won 3 MNC's in 3 different Eras with 3 different coaches and Heisman coached there at one time.
They weren't when they left. Not even close.
good is relative, but according to stassen.com, Ga Tech won more games than UGA from 1960 to 1970, which was the era you're talking about
and a familiar team at #1
Posted on 7/6/22 at 9:20 am to JetDawg
Is Atlanta a bigger market, the Greater Combined Statistical area of DC is massive... The combined statistical population for DC is just shy of 10 million.
Posted on 7/6/22 at 9:40 am to MadQfrog
I appreciate the fact that SEC ex-patriots are strewn across the DC metro area, but the Maryland fan base is largely NJ and NY kids and other out of staters. Culturally they do not fit the SEC and should never have left the ACC. They don't fit the BIG10 either. Maryland would be like adding Mizzou again, which actually was a better fit for the BIG10, at least in the St. Louis metro area where we lived. I have lived in suburban Baltimore on and off since 1990 and the fan base is either looking north to the Ivy's or South to UVA and UNC. Maryland is just not a good fit in the SEC. Maybe when the SEC adds men's lacrosse, we can talk about adding Maryland.
Posted on 7/6/22 at 9:45 am to BLG
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They were good back in the days
Won 3 MNC's in 3 different Eras with 3 different coaches and Heisman coached there at one time.
They weren't when they left. Not even close.
good is relative, but according to stassen.com, Ga Tech won more games than UGA from 1960 to 1970, which was the era you're talking about
and a familiar team at #1
That's cool and all. But that has nothing to do with the discussion or disprove my point.
Posted on 7/6/22 at 9:45 am to finchmeister08
GT's biggest problem is their Administration quit caring about football 30 years ago. They should at least be competitive. Their basketball program is the biggest head scratcher considering their location.
Posted on 7/6/22 at 10:00 am to finchmeister08
We’ve paid our penance 5 times over.
Bring us home motherfrickers.
Bring us home motherfrickers.
Posted on 7/6/22 at 10:01 am to Porter Osborne Jr
Bottom line: It’s time for UGA & GT to mutually agree to drop the series.
Georgia Tech can’t put up w/ the shite anymore. Georgia has other priorities. The end is near.
Georgia Tech can’t put up w/ the shite anymore. Georgia has other priorities. The end is near.
Posted on 7/6/22 at 10:03 am to finchmeister08
Since we're adding Texas, we now have the most prestigious school in each member state except South Carolina, Georgia, and Louisiana. This would cure one of those, Clemson obviously cures the other. I don't think we're bringing Tulane back so we should probably forget about that.
Posted on 7/6/22 at 10:20 am to Pettifogger
I guess clemson should've bailed on the ACC with us way back when and they might be here instead of us. They didn't, they aren't, they can frick off.
Posted on 7/6/22 at 10:22 am to Dick Jacket
I think we would if you would agree to have a minimum quota of 2000 red blooded South GA baws and 2000 peaches in your freshman class starting fall semester 2023.
We (UGA)will abstain and an oversight panel of a 1 Ole Miss, Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Miss State, and Florida alphas will oversee the initiation rituals.
We (UGA)will abstain and an oversight panel of a 1 Ole Miss, Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Miss State, and Florida alphas will oversee the initiation rituals.
Posted on 7/6/22 at 10:23 am to finchmeister08
It’s difficult to see the SEC expanding much at all, and even more difficult to see what Georgia Tech brings to the table to justify splitting revenue with them.
There aren’t many schools outside the Big Ten or the SEC which would bring enough revenue to justify expansion. Oregon and Notre Dame are probably the only ones not committed to either conference right now which could plausibly pull their own weight financially.
The schools I think could be considered as a speculative add are UNC and Virginia Tech. North Carolina and Virginia have enough of a potential consumer base for football if they had good enough teams to support. I wanted to say UVA instead of VT because I think UVA might bring more across the board than VT, but VT is the surer bet from a football perspective, which is all that really matters.
That said, no package deals… you can’t afford to dilute the potential consumer base with multiple programs from the same area. One NC and one VA school. This also means programs like Clemson and Georgia Tech aren’t good ideas. The Florida schools might be worth considering if they can get their houses in order again, since Florida has a lot of people and since the three big programs have different territory they cover. But they need to get their houses in order first.
Frankly I think it’s most likely that the SEC stays at 16 for the foreseeable future. All the other options are very speculative. There are very few “sure things” like Oklahoma and Texas.
There aren’t many schools outside the Big Ten or the SEC which would bring enough revenue to justify expansion. Oregon and Notre Dame are probably the only ones not committed to either conference right now which could plausibly pull their own weight financially.
The schools I think could be considered as a speculative add are UNC and Virginia Tech. North Carolina and Virginia have enough of a potential consumer base for football if they had good enough teams to support. I wanted to say UVA instead of VT because I think UVA might bring more across the board than VT, but VT is the surer bet from a football perspective, which is all that really matters.
That said, no package deals… you can’t afford to dilute the potential consumer base with multiple programs from the same area. One NC and one VA school. This also means programs like Clemson and Georgia Tech aren’t good ideas. The Florida schools might be worth considering if they can get their houses in order again, since Florida has a lot of people and since the three big programs have different territory they cover. But they need to get their houses in order first.
Frankly I think it’s most likely that the SEC stays at 16 for the foreseeable future. All the other options are very speculative. There are very few “sure things” like Oklahoma and Texas.
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