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re: Would we welcome GTech back to the conference with open arms?

Posted on 7/6/22 at 10:51 am to
Posted by Poichess
Member since Jun 2019
796 posts
Posted on 7/6/22 at 10:51 am to
Big 10 wants to establish a southern presence, enter the Atlanta market (think local BIG alums, not GT alums), and GT is an AAU member school.

Would the SEC consider a defensive measure to keep the BIG 10 out of the South and Atlanta?
Posted by Amorybulldog
Amory, MS
Member since Dec 2017
44 posts
Posted on 7/6/22 at 10:55 am to
That area is full of waterfalls. Great hiking.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33045 posts
Posted on 7/6/22 at 12:02 pm to
quote:

according to stassen.com, Ga Tech won more games than UGA from 1960 to 1970, which was the era you're talking about


Uga wasn’t good in that era, and especially before we hired Dooley and tech left the sec in the same season.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54792 posts
Posted on 7/6/22 at 12:27 pm to
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what would FSU bring?


Free Shoes?
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27303 posts
Posted on 7/6/22 at 1:50 pm to
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Georgia Tech did not want to keep sharing their money with the conference teams. They thought they could be like Notre Dame and be Independent and keep all of the money for themselves


I can find nothing that backs up this assertion.Bama reneging on the 140 rule
PLUS the Chuck Granning incident were the 2 main factors.

GT was certainly arrogant back then but I'm not sure if they ever thought of themselves of the ND of south especially in the early 60's...they were a few years removed from their mid 50's glory years.

Dodd wasn't the same coach when Frank Broyals left for Arkansas and Ray Graves left for UF



Posted by bunkerhill
Georgia
Member since Oct 2017
1370 posts
Posted on 7/6/22 at 2:25 pm to
i remember reading the Mark Bradley column when it was published. He interviews only teck people. Of course they never mention the arrogance of teck. Dodd knew he and teck were bigger than the entire SEC. He was going to take them national and leave these stumbling, bumbling cracker schools behind.

When all this secession was being talked about before they left I don't remember the newspaper articles mentioning much about the 140 scholarship rule, which has become important over time.
Posted by Ghost of Barnwell
central alabama
Member since Dec 2013
1773 posts
Posted on 7/6/22 at 2:28 pm to
TECH also did not want to share their part of the bowl game money with the rest of the conference.....how did that work out for them ?
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29228 posts
Posted on 7/6/22 at 3:31 pm to
quote:

Dodd knew he and teck were bigger than the entire SEC. He was going to take them national and leave these stumbling, bumbling cracker schools behind.



Dodd has been dead for nearly 35 years and has been out of the GTAA for almost 50. I think his wants are irrelevant at this point.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7330 posts
Posted on 7/6/22 at 4:12 pm to
Most I remember is they whined about Alabama. Then left.

I know some schools on here, so far, have complained about the Tide (step 1).
Posted by rbtgoodson
Atlanta, GA
Member since Nov 2019
269 posts
Posted on 7/6/22 at 4:54 pm to
Yes, I would. In terms of academics, they would be a phenomenal addition to the conference, and while their athletics have been **** as of late, that's in large part due to the ridiculous fact that around 30-40% of their UG student body is either foreign or from outside the state (which, given that they're a public university, is ******* ridiculous for the taxpayers of this state, etc.). In terms of attendance, they should have phenomenal numbers for the same reasons as to why the SEC Championship Game does, i.e., location... location... location. (The only issues would be parking, tailgating, and obviously, the current crime rate within the city.) Also, with the amount of corporations within the city, Technology Square, and the metropolitan area, corporate sponsorships should go up, too.

P.S. My personal choices for new members (assuming that we go to twenty): Clemson, Florida State, Georgia Tech, and yes, even Tulane.
This post was edited on 7/6/22 at 4:58 pm
Posted by Dwight Schrute Reb
2022 CWS National Champs
Member since Jul 2020
820 posts
Posted on 7/6/22 at 5:14 pm to
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What’d they bitch about?

Did they really think they’d be ND of the south?


Bobby Dodd and Bear Bryant got in to a feud. Actually, it was Dodd's feud. But GT did quit in protest because they are bitches.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29228 posts
Posted on 7/7/22 at 7:20 am to
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that's in large part due to the ridiculous fact that around 30-40% of their UG student body is either foreign or from outside the state (which, given that they're a public university, is ******* ridiculous for the taxpayers of this state, etc.).


Isn't Bama's OOS percentage over 50%?
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 7/7/22 at 7:30 am to
There is but one question the P2 conferences consider when assessing a candidate for membership: Will the school likely add as much or more money to the pool as it will receive from the pool?

If the answer is yes, then the school is a candidate. If it’s no then the school won’t be considered for membership.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25736 posts
Posted on 7/7/22 at 7:33 am to
Tech adds nothing other than a permanent opponent for Georgia.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 7/7/22 at 7:35 am to
Correct.
Posted by dirtsandwich
AL
Member since May 2016
5188 posts
Posted on 7/7/22 at 7:38 am to
quote:

Isn't Bama's OOS percentage over 50%?

Yep. Over 60% from out of state. Complete inverse from when I was there.
Posted by dirtsandwich
AL
Member since May 2016
5188 posts
Posted on 7/7/22 at 7:47 am to
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In terms of academics, they would be a phenomenal addition to the conference

I’ve seen the academics referenced I connection with GT, Big 10, etc. maybe I’m just stupid (I did go to Bama) but how does conference affiliation affect a school’s academics? Athletics is obvious since you have direct competition but I’m not sure I understand the academics. Ivy League I guess. But how does ASU’s membership in the PAC 12 affect its academic standing? Is Vandy’s membership in the SEC holding it back academically?
Posted by msuFISHDAWG
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2020
92 posts
Posted on 7/7/22 at 9:47 am to
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What a jackass!
So he didn't like SEC schools processing out players and basically over-signing, he refused to travel to other SEC stadiums, and he wanted to keep all bowl revenue for his school rather than share with the conference? What a jackass!


And then they named their stadium after him ... screw em
Posted by msuFISHDAWG
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2020
92 posts
Posted on 7/7/22 at 9:55 am to
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We (UGA)will abstain and an oversight panel of a 1 Ole Miss, Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Miss State, and Florida alphas will oversee the initiation rituals.


and they will have to travel to each school ... one by one
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
16138 posts
Posted on 7/7/22 at 9:56 am to
That ship has sailed. They are not even in the top 5 ACC schools we would take.
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