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Why Do Wealthy Parents Let Their Kids Sign Scholarship Papers?
Posted on 2/22/18 at 6:08 am
Posted on 2/22/18 at 6:08 am
Other than prestige and the economic value of a scholarship, which is obviously variable depending on the institution?
Are walk-ons subject to the same transfer rules as scholarship players or can they go where they want when they want without sitting out and without a coach restricting them on where they can go?
Do walk-ons have the same restrictions in terms of earning other income as scholarship players? Really don’t know.
Say a the wealthy parents of a 5* QB told a coach we don’t need your scholarship but we hear you only have room for 4 linemen in this class, but we’d like for you to use our son’s scholarship on a 5th to help the team and him. Are there any rules that restrict that?
Are walk-ons subject to the same transfer rules as scholarship players or can they go where they want when they want without sitting out and without a coach restricting them on where they can go?
Do walk-ons have the same restrictions in terms of earning other income as scholarship players? Really don’t know.
Say a the wealthy parents of a 5* QB told a coach we don’t need your scholarship but we hear you only have room for 4 linemen in this class, but we’d like for you to use our son’s scholarship on a 5th to help the team and him. Are there any rules that restrict that?
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 6:12 am to DingLeeBerry
Wasn't there a mini-scandal some years ago about those loaded UNLV basketball teams all being walkons? Nothing really came it, as I recall, but I've drank an ocean of fine whiskeys since then.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 6:14 am to DingLeeBerry
Asking for a "friend"??
Posted on 2/22/18 at 6:20 am to DingLeeBerry
Major Ogilvie, back in the day at Bama, turned down scholarship and walked on to free up a scholly...His parents were loaded...
Posted on 2/22/18 at 6:44 am to DingLeeBerry
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Are there any rules that restrict that?
Yes. A player that garners significant recruiting interest will count against the scholarship limit (at least the 85) even if they are able to fund themselves.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 6:45 am to DingLeeBerry
Because it's free money. Only idiots wouldn't take that
Posted on 2/22/18 at 6:46 am to mdw1969
Seems like that would be the way to go. Just think if Archie had told Cutcliffe to take Eli’s a scholarship and give it to a center who wouldn’t step on his foot, or offered to let the Pillsbury Pumpkin give Peyton’s to a corner who could cover that nerdy WR from Florida.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 6:48 am to Henry Jones Jr
It’s not free, as you obviously give up certain freedoms in taking the money. Looks like Hemphead answered it though.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 6:51 am to DingLeeBerry
I post for free on this site despite many cash offers from aggie faithful for services rendered.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 6:53 am to HempHead
A walk-on DOES NOT count against the scholarship limit. The 85 roster limit yes, but not the yearly scholarship limit.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 6:58 am to DingLeeBerry
you dont get rich by turning down a great deal. Tuition, housing, and food paid for for 4 years with a degree at the end is a great deal.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 7:01 am to DingLeeBerry
Rich ppl still love free stuff
Posted on 2/22/18 at 7:04 am to DingLeeBerry
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Wealthy
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economic value of a scholarship
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Wealthy
Posted on 2/22/18 at 7:05 am to Jack Daniel
The NCAA limits player enrollment to 105. This includes 85 scholarship players and 20 walk-ons.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 7:17 am to DingLeeBerry
Much bigger deal for Baseball than football
Posted on 2/22/18 at 7:19 am to Paul B Ammer
He would have to be a preferred walk on to practice with the team prior to the start of classes.
It could be done. But great athletes don't need the university more than the university needs the great athletes (see cam newton's dad)
It could be done. But great athletes don't need the university more than the university needs the great athletes (see cam newton's dad)
Posted on 2/22/18 at 7:24 am to Paul B Ammer
quote:This applies to fall camp only. After school starts, the NCAA does not have a cap on roster size.
The NCAA limits player enrollment to 105. This includes 85 scholarship players and 20 walk-o
Conferences dictate travel and home roster sizes, which I believe is 95 can dress for home game and 70 can travel and dress for away games.
The 105 rule for fall camp generally accounts for 85 Scholly players and 20 walk-on. At no point do walk ons count against the 85 scholly ncaa cap.
To the OPs point, the heavily recruited walk on would be called a "preferred walk on," which guarantees him a fall camp roster spot for the 105 cap. It also places him first in line ahead of regular walkons for a scholarship should he want one.
Regular walk ons get no such guarantees.
I seem to recall a Bama player not re-upping a scholarship as an upperclassman to free space, but can't recall who it was. Aj McCarron and Barrett Jones come to mind, but I may be confusing history as I age.
A high caliber recruit turning down a scholarship for the good of the team is akin to a star pro player taking a salary cut to free up cap space. You have to imagine it happens.
The only catch is that if the player were recruited by the team, ANY scholarship or financial aid he receives from the school he was recruited to and plays for makes him a scholarship counter against the 85
This post was edited on 2/22/18 at 7:31 am
Posted on 2/22/18 at 7:28 am to Che Boludo
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A high caliber recruit turning down a scholarship for the good of the team is akin to a star peo player taking a salare cut to free up cap space. You have to imagine it happens.
I guess it could, but there are a lot of perks that come with being a scholarship athlete vs. a walk-on, even things like not being able to participate in the training table food options, housing options, etc. That was the case as of a few years ago at least. You'd be giving up a lot.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 7:35 am to Jack Daniel
If you are considered recruited by the NCAA the school has no choice but to offer you a scholarship if they want you to play there and you'll obviously count against scholarship limits. An official visit, for example, will make you a recruited player to that school.
If you are offered a scholarship to a school and you choose to play there then you'd be insane not to take it (turning it down will simply result in you getting none of the benefits of being on scholarship and it's more than just tuition all while still counting against the yearly scholarship limit). IOW, you can't just turn it down because you're rich (or claim to be) and save your school from you counting towards scholarship limit.
A normal walk-on (a kid that simply shows up out of nowhere to compete) is a different story.
If you are offered a scholarship to a school and you choose to play there then you'd be insane not to take it (turning it down will simply result in you getting none of the benefits of being on scholarship and it's more than just tuition all while still counting against the yearly scholarship limit). IOW, you can't just turn it down because you're rich (or claim to be) and save your school from you counting towards scholarship limit.
A normal walk-on (a kid that simply shows up out of nowhere to compete) is a different story.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 7:39 am to Henry Jones Jr
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Because it's free money. Only idiots wouldn't take that
Exactly. The people who ask this question have a fundamental misunderstanding about the getting and keeping of wealth. Anomalies aside, of course
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