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re: Why Do Wealthy Parents Let Their Kids Sign Scholarship Papers?
Posted on 2/22/18 at 8:22 am to DingLeeBerry
Posted on 2/22/18 at 8:22 am to DingLeeBerry
Meyer and Andersen cited the NCAA rule change permitting schools to give walk-ons unlimited meals and snacks. Before the change this year, walk-ons eating at the training table had to pay the rate deducted from a scholarship player's board allowance for each meal. Meyer said Ohio State walk-on linebacker Joe Burger told him the rule change was saving him $3,000 per semester.
"There were some tough times there where I was scraping change together for some dollar-menu items," said Brock Collier, a walk-on offensive lineman at Tennessee from 2010-12. "That was all part of it then. Now that they've got the rule that you can feed walk-ons, that's awesome. It's something that's well deserved for those guys."
Colleges still can decide whether to provide those meals and snacks to walk-ons for free. Lavin said he knows of at least four major programs that still require walk-ons to pay for training-table privileges.
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"There were some tough times there where I was scraping change together for some dollar-menu items," said Brock Collier, a walk-on offensive lineman at Tennessee from 2010-12. "That was all part of it then. Now that they've got the rule that you can feed walk-ons, that's awesome. It's something that's well deserved for those guys."
Colleges still can decide whether to provide those meals and snacks to walk-ons for free. Lavin said he knows of at least four major programs that still require walk-ons to pay for training-table privileges.
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 8:26 am to AlaCowboy
recall a USC QB, I think it was Matt Leinart, had a wealthy dad and lived in a luxury apartment off campus with several other players. The NCAA made them pay rent to Leinart instead of living with him for free. Leinart then bought several cars for himself, but let his roomies "borrow" one any time they wanted
That roommate was Reggie Bush and it was a violation because they never actually paid rent
That roommate was Reggie Bush and it was a violation because they never actually paid rent
Posted on 2/22/18 at 8:27 am to teddyjackeddy
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It seems a bit unrealistic to think a person should turn down a scholarship when players are already exploited under this system.
So are they just as exploited if they aren’t on scholarship or less exploited? They can transfer if not on scholarship without sitting out a year if not “recruited” and I assume a coach can’t restrict them on where they might transfer. That’s worth something.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 8:47 am to TOSOV
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Asking for a friend
You realize he is a state fan right? Not many wealthy state fans
Posted on 2/22/18 at 9:01 am to DingLeeBerry
Some of our fans wanted Jerry Jones's grandson to do this, but one scholarship is probably worth it for a future millionaire booster
Posted on 2/22/18 at 9:01 am to TrueReb13
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Not many wealthy state fans
Posted on 2/22/18 at 9:04 am to teddyjackeddy
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Fans act as if these players should somehow live under different rules than everybody else.
If the players want the donors and taxpayers to pay their bills then they can damn well follow different rules than someone paying their own way.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 9:11 am to DingLeeBerry
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Why Do Wealthy Parents Let Their Kids Sign Scholarship Papers?
The reason people are wealthy is because they do not give money away.
quote:There is no rule against that. Any kid can walk on to any school he wishes.
Say a the wealthy parents of a 5* QB told a coach we don’t need your scholarship but we hear you only have room for 4 linemen in this class, but we’d like for you to use our son’s scholarship on a 5th to help the team and him. Are there any rules that restrict that?
Posted on 2/22/18 at 9:12 am to DingLeeBerry
What if the player is is smart academically? Can the university give him an academic scholarship and save the athletic scholly for someone else?
Posted on 2/22/18 at 9:15 am to Jack Daniel
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A walk-on DOES NOT count against the scholarship limit. The 85 roster limit yes, but not the yearly scholarship limit.
I'm pretty sure the 85 limit is for scholarship players, so walk-ons do not count toward that, either.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 9:19 am to DawgsLife
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The reason people are wealthy is because they do not give money away.
Wealthy people give money away all the time. People donate to athletic programs to help them win championships. This scenario is a donation that would add a scholarship player to help achieve that goal.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 9:22 am to DawgsLife
The stupidity of board posters is often frustrating.
Why not call for all young adults with well off parents to work for free ?
Players are just people, not some special breed or toys.
Why not call for all young adults with well off parents to work for free ?
Players are just people, not some special breed or toys.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 9:25 am to teddyjackeddy
Don’t be a dumbass. I’m not calling for rich kids to work for free. I’m exploring the benefits of it for the players ifthe parents made a choice to go that route, and why they might choose to do so.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 9:27 am to DingLeeBerry
Why not ASK the young adults from all well to do families to work for free ?
It's a ridiculous way of thinking.
It's a ridiculous way of thinking.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 9:27 am to DingLeeBerry
A walk-on isn't covered (or, at least, they weren't when I was in college) on the school's insurance program. So an injury to a walk-on leaves that walk-on on their own to cover the medical expense of any surgery and rehab - usually NOT with the team doctor, too.
Dustin Pedroia gave up his scholarship at ASU so they could sign a JUCO pitcher that he thought would put them over the hump. It's different in baseball due to only having 11.7 scholarships per team, but he had a full ride and gave it up (didn't hurt that he knew he was goign to be a high round draft pick a year later).
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Say a the wealthy parents of a 5* QB told a coach we don’t need your scholarship but we hear you only have room for 4 linemen in this class, but we’d like for you to use our son’s scholarship on a 5th to help the team and him. Are there any rules that restrict that?
Dustin Pedroia gave up his scholarship at ASU so they could sign a JUCO pitcher that he thought would put them over the hump. It's different in baseball due to only having 11.7 scholarships per team, but he had a full ride and gave it up (didn't hurt that he knew he was goign to be a high round draft pick a year later).
Posted on 2/22/18 at 9:32 am to teddyjackeddy
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teddyjackeddy
Ok, maybe you can’t help but be a dumbass.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 10:10 am to DingLeeBerry
in some cases, i'm sure it's just greed. how much money is enough? to some, there's never enough. but, i'm also sure that every situation is different. imo, it depends on the definition of wealth.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 10:21 am to DingLeeBerry
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Wealthy people give money away all the time.
Only as a tax break. Rarely "just because". There are some who do. (The cathey's of Chick-Fil_A come to mind, but most do it for tax breaks. Not taking a scholarship does not give you a tax break)
quote:Again, it would not be tax deductible.
This scenario is a donation
Posted on 2/22/18 at 10:23 am to DingLeeBerry
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I’m not calling for rich kids to work for free. I’m exploring the benefits of it for the players ifthe parents made a choice to go that route, and why they might choose to do so.
The fact that they do not choose to do this should tell you something. It's not like this is an entirely new idea.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 10:26 am to LSU GrandDad
quote:Greed? Maybe. but consider this. no matter how much money you have or make you typically live off that amount. Some, so-called wealthy people have less discretionary cash that other less wealthy people. If you get a raise at work, do you put it in the bank and consider it extra, or do you live off of it by going out to eat, buying a new car or bigger house? People tend to live off what they make no matter how much it is.
in some cases, i'm sure it's just greed. how much money is enough? to some, there's never enough. but, i'm also sure that every situation is different. imo, it depends on the definition of wealth.
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