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Who ultimately made the nuclear decision to open the portal and NIL?

Posted on 2/4/24 at 12:21 pm
Posted by JamalMurry27
Tennessee Titans
Member since May 2023
1642 posts
Posted on 2/4/24 at 12:21 pm
Why would you open a box you know you can’t put back. When was the moment the Nuke was dropped on college football?
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
35371 posts
Posted on 2/4/24 at 12:23 pm to
You start a lot of dumbass threads.

Just thought I'd let you know.
Posted by trussthetruzz
Marquette, MI
Member since Sep 2020
9236 posts
Posted on 2/4/24 at 12:25 pm to
Shut up. Mad cause Bama can’t cheat anymore?
Posted by SaturdayNAthens
Georgia
Member since Dec 2017
10881 posts
Posted on 2/4/24 at 12:33 pm to
They still have the SEC refs to “help” them out at crucial times in the games, though.
Posted by faraway
Member since Nov 2022
1979 posts
Posted on 2/4/24 at 12:36 pm to
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hey still have the SEC refs to “help” them out at crucial times in the games, though.
with nicky gone, bama is no longer the best ticket for the SEC to profit from. also with Nicky gone, the NCAA won't be so quick to look the other way, either.
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
28605 posts
Posted on 2/4/24 at 12:42 pm to
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Shut up. Mad cause Bama can’t cheat anymore?



yeah, all of saban's work and accolades as the goat were from cheating.
Posted by New Money
Athens, GA
Member since Jun 2023
1197 posts
Posted on 2/4/24 at 12:48 pm to
The Supreme Court ruled that this is America and that it is un-American to keep people from profiting from their own NIL while others are making bank from it. The schools nor the NCAA have a choice in the matter.

As for the portal, why may an art history major transfer from one school to another without penalty, but an athlete may not? Once again, this is America.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19687 posts
Posted on 2/4/24 at 1:00 pm to
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As for the portal, why may an art history major transfer from one school to another without penalty, but an athlete may not? Once again, this is America.
because the school didn't pour millions of dollars of free tuition, room, board, specialized athletic training, nutrition specialist, world class medical care, special facilities and dorms, opportunity/exposure to become famous, etc into the art history major. Get rid of athletic scholarships and have them pay for all of that stuff out of nil
This post was edited on 2/4/24 at 1:05 pm
Posted by Chip82
Athens, Georgia
Member since Jan 2023
892 posts
Posted on 2/4/24 at 1:05 pm to
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They still have the SEC refs to “help” them out at crucial times in the games, though.


SEC officiating bias was actually a topic that was discussed in the CFP process according the fact finding questionnaires sent out by Florida State.

Sankey can't ignore this much longer because there is simply too much conference revenue money at stake.

Posted by Themicah86
Member since Jun 2023
877 posts
Posted on 2/4/24 at 1:09 pm to
It started when that irrelevant arse quarterbacks lawsuit made ea sports stop making ncaa football. It's not that the athletes don't deserve to make money off their name, it's that people will be able to openly pay for play. If I pay nico iamaleava 10 million dollars to wear a themicah86's donut shop for one minute that's technically legal. Whoever paid whatever money to get quinn ewers to Ohio state had to eat a huge loss. These kids aren't as great as they think and eventually that will come around. Hundred dollar handshakes people can live with a lack of return on investment. Even billionaires don't like wasting millions.
Posted by ukraine_rebel
North Mississippi
Member since Oct 2012
2182 posts
Posted on 2/4/24 at 1:15 pm to
The portal was an NCAA idea in 2019 to make transferring an easier process, the unlimited use of it came with COVID.
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
9375 posts
Posted on 2/4/24 at 1:18 pm to
California
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19687 posts
Posted on 2/4/24 at 1:20 pm to
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They still have the SEC refs to “help” them out at crucial times in the games, though.


SEC officiating bias was actually a topic that was discussed in the CFP process according the fact finding questionnaires sent out by Florida State.

this theory is so stupid. they sit there and penalize bama at a much higher rate than average, penalize their opponents at a lower rate than average, but they know exactly when to help them in the games so that they win through ref cheating. this is so incredibly stupid that you should just voluntarily jump off a cliff
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18182 posts
Posted on 2/4/24 at 1:29 pm to
It's a myth. The narrative had to change once the disproportionate penalty evidence revealed itself. That was about when the UM holding penalty chart came out that showed Bama as a significant outlier on the receiving end of penalties.

The problem lies in the self-serving bias we watch games with. Bad calls or missed calls always seem disproportionately bad for one's own team, particularly in a loss.

Bama has won more big games and rivalry matches than they've lost under Saban so that bias has naturally grown stronger.

If it were true, I imagine Williams is granted possession and 1st and Goal Bama from the 2 in the Game of the Century Part 1 with LSU.
Posted by BornAndRaised_LA
Springfield, VA
Member since Oct 2018
5228 posts
Posted on 2/4/24 at 1:31 pm to
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because the school didn't pour millions of dollars of free tuition, room, board, specialized athletic training, nutrition specialist, world class medical care, special facilities and dorms, opportunity/exposure to become famous, etc into the art history major


I was on a full tuition academic scholarship and could’ve left at any time I wanted to. They would’ve invested two or four or six semesters in me, and I could’ve just walked away. Hell, even after graduation they certainly haven’t made what they invested in me.

Athletic scholarships are one year deals. Players get processed all the time, despite having given their all to a program.

I don’t particularly like NIL paired with the transfer portal Because it leads to the purchasing of players, but the idea that a school can cut a player yet a player can’t leave a school seems pretty darn un-American to me.
Posted by mudshuvl05
Member since Nov 2023
614 posts
Posted on 2/4/24 at 1:43 pm to
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As for the portal, why may an art history major transfer from one school to another without penalty, but an athlete may not? Once again, this is America.
are you really equating the resources a taxpayer funded public university uses on a scholarship athlete, to the resource that is the art student?

again, the art student is the catalyst that allows your precious athletes to even exist at a public university. he can damn well go where he pleases because he paid the penalty in the form of tuition, parking fees, and other various costs - many of which go directly to the athlete and his lavish college lifestyle experience.

the athlete paid nothing. therefore, contrary to your argument, he should have to pay the piper if he leaves the school that the art student funded during his stay.

so congratulations, you played yourself.

some of you sports nuts are just not the sharpest tools in the shed.
Posted by New Money
Athens, GA
Member since Jun 2023
1197 posts
Posted on 2/4/24 at 1:46 pm to
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Get rid of athletic scholarships and have them pay for all of that stuff out of nil


I'd be fine with that.

A complete ban on public funding of any costs associated with athletics should go along with it. Let them all pay their own way, including building the stadiums.
This post was edited on 2/4/24 at 1:48 pm
Posted by TheTideMustRoll
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2009
8906 posts
Posted on 2/4/24 at 2:23 pm to
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with nicky gone, bama is no longer the best ticket for the SEC to profit from.


Alabama draws more eyes than any other program in the nation, so yes, we are still are of y'all's meal ticket. You're welcome.
Posted by BornAndRaised_LA
Springfield, VA
Member since Oct 2018
5228 posts
Posted on 2/4/24 at 2:24 pm to
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A complete ban on public funding of any costs associated with athletics should go along with it. Let them all pay their own way, including building the stadiums.


If they pay for it all, then give them all the profits. No more giving $10M a year back to fund academics.
Posted by New Money
Athens, GA
Member since Jun 2023
1197 posts
Posted on 2/4/24 at 2:33 pm to
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If they pay for it all, then give them all the profits. No more giving $10M a year back to fund academics.



Okay.

If the public/university is going to fund it, every penny of profit should be used to operate the institution rather than being an untaxed business.
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