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re: What is the point of Saban denying Brandon Kennedy's transfer request?
Posted on 5/22/18 at 1:41 pm to Smoke7024
Posted on 5/22/18 at 1:41 pm to Smoke7024
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I don't think the programs give a shite.
I think they do or the rule wouldn't even be on the books. Why make a rule if it isn't going to be enforced?
Posted on 5/22/18 at 1:42 pm to StopRobot
quote:I agree - the discussion is useless with the existing rule currently in place. But, I suppose if Kennedy's momma raises enough hell in the media, Sankey will fold again and allow the transfer, i.e. Maurice Smith
The SEC needs to make up its damn mind. Either ban in conference transfers, with no waiver, all together or dont.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 1:43 pm to Smoke7024
He can transfer to 120 Div 1 schools
He can play at Alabama and continue his grad studies
He can go to AU or UT and be a grad student he just can’t use his final eligibility year to play football
He basically do whatever the hell he wants
He can play at Alabama and continue his grad studies
He can go to AU or UT and be a grad student he just can’t use his final eligibility year to play football
He basically do whatever the hell he wants
Posted on 5/22/18 at 1:43 pm to Rabern57
quote:Your layers of stupidity seem to have no end.
It means coaches like your God will run off or let players go that he doesn't want but won't if he wants them.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 1:44 pm to RT1941
Players just need to be adults and Honor their commitment.
This goes for their National Intent as well. Once you commit, it should be over.
This goes for their National Intent as well. Once you commit, it should be over.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 1:46 pm to UAgrad93
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I think they do or the rule wouldn't even be on the books. Why make a rule if it isn't going to be enforced?
They don't care about the players option to choose where they want to go after they graduate. That's evident by the rule being in place at all. Why not just let them go where they want if they've graduated?
Posted on 5/22/18 at 1:48 pm to coachcrisp
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It means coaches like your God will run off or let players go that he doesn't want but won't if he wants them.
quote:Rabern's script has gotten old.
Your layers of stupidity seem to have no end.
Saban runs off players he doesn't want and keeps players he wants......with a signing cap of 25/yr, Saban uses valuable scholly's on players just to keep them off another team's roster.....
Posted on 5/22/18 at 1:50 pm to 14&Counting
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He can go to AU or UT and be a grad student he just can’t use his final eligibility year to play football
Which is dumb. These programs have enough power over these players anyway. Why not allow them play wherever they want after they've put in the time and effort to graduate?
Posted on 5/22/18 at 1:51 pm to Smoke7024
quote:Sankey circumvented the rule with the Maurice Smith transfer, he'll do the same with Brandon Kennedy if enough media pressure gets applied by the kid's parents. Sankey opened that door once, why would be close it in the face of Kennedy?
They don't care about the players option to choose where they want to go after they graduate. That's evident by the rule being in place at all. Why not just let them go where they want if they've graduated?
Posted on 5/22/18 at 1:53 pm to RT1941
quote:I'm pretty sure that the conference doesn't want the rule tested in court where it'd probably be thrown out, so they are hesitant to push it.
I agree - the discussion is useless with the existing rule currently in place. But, I suppose if Kennedy's momma raises enough hell in the media, Sankey will fold again and allow the transfer, i.e. Maurice Smith
Posted on 5/22/18 at 1:56 pm to Smoke7024
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They don't care about the players option to choose where they want to go after they graduate
Wasn't it in the books or still on the books as to being eligible for a graduate transfer, their original school didn't have the program for their desired graduate study work available?
Wasn't that the big thing ( along with some off the field issues) that Jeremiah Masoli had to contend with several years ago when he left Oregon for Ole Miss?
Again, why have the rule if you aren't going to enforce it?
I have mixed emotions about it and Kennedy's situation. He got his undergrad in 3 years!! Great for him. He should be allowed to pursue his graduate studies anywhere he chooses. Auburn is closer to home and UT has Pruitt whom I believe may have been his lead recruiter.
The other side/ conspiracy theorist side says- he will give away line calls/signals/plays, etc. 3 years in the system allows you all the time in the world to learn all of the calls since he plays the center position. Meddling/ tampering? Don't know if this is true or not, but it could be. I haven't heard anything that says that there was any illegal contact.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 1:57 pm to Smoke7024
quote:Who paid for their room, board, meals, education, etc.?...and they shouldn't have ANY say in the choice, if it could harm the institution?
Which is dumb. These programs have enough power over these players anyway. Why not allow them play wherever they want after they've put in the time and effort to graduate?
Posted on 5/22/18 at 1:59 pm to coachcrisp
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I agree - the discussion is useless with the existing rule currently in place. But, I suppose if Kennedy's momma raises enough hell in the media, Sankey will fold again and allow the transfer, i.e. Maurice Smith
quote:Oh, I agree they don't want to go to court with this. I firmly believe that if Kennedy's momma raises hell to the news media, talk radio, etc. then Sankey will push it through and advise Saban to do the same, just like they did with Mo Smith.
I'm pretty sure that the conference doesn't want the rule tested in court where it'd probably be thrown out, so they are hesitant to push it.
The rule as it stands obviously needs to be examined - and next week's SEC meetings is the perfect forum for discussion and analysis among every member institution.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 2:00 pm to UAgrad93
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The other side/ conspiracy theorist side says- he will give away line calls/signals/plays, etc. 3 years in the system allows you all the time in the world to learn all of the calls since he plays the center position. Meddling/ tampering? Don't know if this is true or not, but it could be. I haven't heard anything that says that there was any illegal contact.
I don't like that about it, I will say that.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 2:03 pm to UAgrad93
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Again, why have the rule if you aren't going to enforce it?
They shouldn't have the rule. That's my argument.
I think some may think I care about this being an Auburn/Alabama thing. I don't. I just think a player has earned the right to go wherever they want after they've graduated.
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The other side/ conspiracy theorist side says- he will give away line calls/signals/plays, etc. 3 years in the system allows you all the time in the world to learn all of the calls since he plays the center position.
I'm sure this isn't that big a deal. Professional teams swap players all the time and seem to manage ok.
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Meddling/ tampering? Don't know if this is true or not, but it could be. I haven't heard anything that says that there was any illegal contact.
This is ridiculous to me either way. If a guy wants to leave, then he'll find a way to leave.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 2:06 pm to Smoke7024
quote:Damn I wish an SEC school would retain the power over my son who's about to go through orientation as a freshman in 2 weeks.
Which is dumb. These programs have enough power over these players anyway. Why not allow them play wherever they want after they've put in the time and effort to graduate?
They can have all the power in the world over him if they'll pay tuition/books/fees/tutors/room/board/medical expenses/personal trainers PLUS a cost of living stipend for four fricking years.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 2:21 pm to Smoke7024
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This is ridiculous to me either way
The Mo Smith saga a couple of seasons ago is something to look at. Mo was set to be a starter in Nickel and Dime at UA. UGA indirectly contacted Smith and got the ball rolling. Parents of current players at UGA were "encouraged" to make some calls to Mo and his mother. All of a sudden, Mo wants a transfer and it has to be UGA. When CNS got wind of it, he decided to stand by the rule and block the transfer. Sankey doesn't want the blowback, so he folds and thus encourages CNS to do the same. What does Mo Smith do his only season at UGA? Start in the nickel and dime sets only.
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They shouldn't have the rule. That's my argument
I agree. We shouldn't have it but we do! It is like some empty threat with no consequences. That is all society needs, rules with no consequences. I have seen a shite ton of it in my 24 years in education.
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I'm sure this isn't that big a deal
With the way OCs have come and gone at UA, you are probably right to an extent. You have to come up with key words or signals that are easy to pick up on the fly and recall quickly. Easier to do with arm bands, like in HS when we changed week to week.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 2:29 pm to UAgrad93
The real question is: with 130ish D1 schools out there, why is BK seemingly only interested in Alabama's two biggest rivals? Trying to prove something? Either kill the rule, and allow free agency (and understand, Saban will capitalize on this as well by poaching rivals rosters--so it slices both ways) or stand by the rule. Tell kids to be adults and live by the rules and move on, no exceptions. Personally, I think free agency in CFB would be chaos. You think cheating is bad now? Open that can of worms.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 2:37 pm to RT1941
I'd say that too if I had no other options.
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