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re: What is the point of Saban denying Brandon Kennedy's transfer request?
Posted on 5/22/18 at 2:44 pm to tider04
Posted on 5/22/18 at 2:44 pm to tider04
quote:At this point in my fanhood, I kinda want to see chaos in college football. And all out war for the best of the best, not holds barred, no restraints, no restrictions, let Saban & Co. cherry pick a roster. Free agency and no player on the roster is safe!
Either kill the rule, and allow free agency (and understand, Saban will capitalize on this as well by poaching rivals rosters--so it slices both ways) or stand by the rule. Tell kids to be adults and live by the rules and move on, no exceptions. Personally, I think free agency in CFB would be chaos. You think cheating is bad now? Open that can of worms.
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Posted on 5/22/18 at 2:47 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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What is the point of Saban denying Brandon Kennedy's transfer request?
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Posted on 5/22/18 at 3:06 pm to RT1941
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At this point in my fanhood, I kinda want to see chaos in college football. And all out war for the best of the best, not holds barred, no restraints, no restrictions, let Saban & Co. cherry pick a roster. Free agency and no player on the roster is safe!
That's sort of my point. This wouldn't end well for Alabama's rivals, Saban would kill it with open free agency. Be careful what you wish for.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 3:12 pm to tider04
How did we get from allowing a graduate to transfer anywhere to completely open free agency? Is anyone advocating for that?
Posted on 5/22/18 at 3:13 pm to SummerOfGeorge
quote:thats a great post, man.
Should probably go somewhere other than Tennessee or Auburn then IMHO IYAM.
Nah I really don't give a fvck, though it is kind of like "really man?".
There is something to being a bit peterved at investing 4 years in training and resources with a kid to see him then go use it at your biggest rival. Should you be able to stop him from that? Probably not. Is it understandable to be a biy irritated by it when there are lots of other great grad school program options that aren't trying to slit your throat on a daily basis? I think so.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 3:18 pm to Smoke7024
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How did we get from allowing a graduate to transfer anywhere to completely open free agency?
It's called a "straw man."
It's what people use when they don't have any coherent arguments to use.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 3:20 pm to Smoke7024
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How did we get from allowing a graduate to transfer anywhere to completely open free agency? Is anyone advocating for that?
It's a slippery slope. The rules committee is already discussing allowing undergrads to transfer without sitting out a year. Heck, even full-on free agency with grad-transfers opens things up right? Saban gets a list of all our rivals who have players with degrees and goes after the best of them hard. You guys really want that? I mean really?
Posted on 5/22/18 at 3:22 pm to tider04
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Saban gets a list of all our rivals who have players with degrees and goes after the best of them hard. You guys really want that? I mean really?
Personally, again, I think if a player can put in the time and effort to graduate and have eligibility left, then I don't care what he does after he graduates. He's earned it, IMO.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 3:24 pm to Smoke7024
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Personally, again, I think if a player can put in the time and effort to graduate and have eligibility left, then I don't care what he does after he graduates. He's earned it, IMO.
That sounds great when you're potentially getting a good player from another school. I have a feeling sentiments will change when many of your best players start getting poached as soon as they graduate and have 1-2 years left.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 3:27 pm to tider04
I don't even know who Brandon Kennedy is. I don't see why it's so hard to detach from being a fan of a school and think about it from a player's perspective.
If a guy is committed to doing that in the classroom, then he's earned the right to go wherever he wants, IMO.
If a guy is committed to doing that in the classroom, then he's earned the right to go wherever he wants, IMO.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 3:29 pm to Smoke7024
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I don't even know who Brandon Kennedy is
I don't believe you. You've posted way too many times in this thread to not know who the subject of this thread is.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 3:31 pm to tider04
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I don't believe you.
Ok
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You've posted way too many times in this thread to not know who the subject of this thread is.
The subject of this thread is giving a graduate the freedom to transfer anywhere they want and that's all I've posted about.
This post was edited on 5/22/18 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 5/22/18 at 3:35 pm to Smoke7024
You need to stop with the emotional arguments. When’s guy commits he commits his amateur status to that school. If he leaves or graduates early and wants to leave there are just a few simple rules that govern that status. His getting a degree is completely separate from his amateur eligibility.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 3:41 pm to 14&Counting
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You need to stop with the emotional arguments.
How is it an emotional argument to think someone has earned the right to transfer wherever they want after they've graduated?
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His getting a degree is completely separate from his amateur eligibility.
I disagree. He's fulfilled his obligation after he's graduated, IMO.
If my argument were so terrible, then these schools wouldn't cave when challenged.
A school can fire a coach or a coach can leave a school, but don't let that graduate go wherever he wants for his last year or two. That would be chaos.
This post was edited on 5/22/18 at 3:45 pm
Posted on 5/22/18 at 3:43 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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Ok, don't answer the question, just get mad then
Posted 6 minutes after the first post.
That's just fricking sad
Posted on 5/22/18 at 3:49 pm to Smoke7024
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He's fulfilled his obligation after he's graduated
That's interesting. Is that clause in the NLI that players sign? Or is that simply your opinion? The way it's always been in the past is that when you sign with a program, you're committed to them until you exhaust your eligibility or move on from CFB altogether by going pro or quitting the game for medical reasons, etc. If we want to ditch that and usher in free-agency, that's fine. But understand it likely won't end the way you want it to for your team many, many times.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 3:53 pm to Smoke7024
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A school can fire a coach or a coach can leave a school, but don't let that graduate go wherever he wants for his last year or two. That would be chaos.
Coaches are paid professionals, not amateur college athletes. Apples meet oranges. Additionally, when a coach leaves before his contract is up, or a school fires said coach before the contract is up--there are consequences. Usually multi-million dollar buyout clauses. So there are costly consequences when a coach leaves early. But players should just be able to leave with no restrictions after a school has invested countless thousands of dollars and man hours into said player? Terrible argument.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 3:55 pm to tider04
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Is that clause in the NLI that players sign?
This is.
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A prospective student-athlete agrees to attend the institution full-time for one academic year (two semesters or three quarters).
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The way it's always been in the past is that when you sign with a program, you're committed to them until you exhaust your eligibility or move on from CFB altogether by going pro or quitting the game for medical reasons, etc.
Link? I'm genuinely interested in that.
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If we want to ditch that and usher in free-agency, that's fine.
If that's your definition of letting a graduate transfer without restrictions then sure.
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But understand it likely won't end the way you want it to for your team many, many times.
I still don't think you understand my stance on this.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 4:03 pm to Smoke7024
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This is.
You said and I quote; "he's fulfilled his obligations once he's graduated." I'm looking for that clause in the NLI. Still can't find it. Transfer restrictions are in place because the expectation is and has been that the school and player are committing to each other for the duration of their college career. Sure you can transfer, but there's always been a 1 year waiting "penalty" to discourage this. And it's worked pretty well.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 4:20 pm to tider04
Yeah, because
We're talking about grad transfers.
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A prospective student-athlete agrees to attend the institution full-time for one academic year (two semesters or three quarters).
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Sure you can transfer, but there's always been a 1 year waiting "penalty" to discourage this.
We're talking about grad transfers.
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