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Posted on 7/18/26 at 12:06 pm to RollTide1987
2001...when UK won 2 whole games all season. Ball State and Vandy.
Posted on 7/18/26 at 1:54 pm to JamalMurry27
The one key difference is Ernest Graham would've been healthy in September vs not playing in December after Darnell Dockett "accidentally" hurt his knee in the FSU game. And Tennessee wouldn't have been a massive underdog.
Posted on 7/18/26 at 1:56 pm to lsufball19
And then Tennessee's last elite team ended up playing in...the Citrus Bowl. 
Posted on 7/18/26 at 5:05 pm to VFL67
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Steve Spurrier’s last home game as head coach of Florida was 2001 against Tennessee. He lost
What are you talking about?
You worded it completely ambiguously. You said it was his last game (it wasn't) at the swamp (it wasn't) that he lost (he won his final game as a HC in the swamp)
If you want people to respond to what's in your head, put it on the keyboard.
Posted on 7/18/26 at 5:15 pm to RollTide1987
I made a post a couple years ago about 2001 Florida. It's actually funny that it's entirely plausible, if not likely even, that the 2 best teams in UF history didn't win titles, those being 1995 and 2001. Both of those teams were fricking GOOD; 95 just happened ot face the best team that's ever existed and 01 caught a really good UT team at a bad time in a weird postponed game.
Posted on 7/18/26 at 6:33 pm to WG_Dawg
2001 Miami was probably the same level of juggernaut
Posted on 7/18/26 at 8:09 pm to RollTide1987
2001 was the wildest year on record...
11/24/2001: (edit Bedlam & NU/CU kicked at 3:30 CDT/2:30 MDT)
Defending champ Oklahoma started the fireworks off with Les Miles and his Cowboys from Oklahoma State going into Gaylord. OSU fell down 0-10 early but wound up winning 13-16.
Winning that game and in 2002 led to this Les Miles gem in 2003
Of course OSU would lose 9-52 that day and within 14 months would replace Nick Saban.
Nebraska started the season 11-0 and looked like a lock to face Miami then they got curb stomped American History X in style in Boulder 36–62 in the last game of the season to not even make the B12 CCG to get a shot at their nemesis Texas.
12/1/2001:
The following week Tennessee went down to the swamp to take on the Gators for a spot in the SEC championship game against LSU. Florida scored the late TD but Grossman blew the 2 point conversion and yes had the game not been postponed because of 9/11 I am pretty sure Florida wins as well.
Later that day Colorado headed down to rematch against Texas in the B12 CCG which was made famous by idiotbox Mack Brown putting Chris Simms back in the game despite having thrown four INT needless to say trash was thrown on the field and alcohol sales were stopped but at least Major Applewhite came in and nearly brought us back but ultimately lost 37-39.
12/8/2001:
That put Tennessee perfectly in line to go face Miami all they had to do was beat an 8-3 LSU team for the 2nd time that season essentially the exact same setup Texas blew the week before (Colorado was 9-2 but the rest holds). However unlike Texas they had the lead at halftime and just gave up the booty in the 2nd half giving up 21 points and only scoring 3.
That wound up putting Eric Crouch and Nebraska who started the whole Merry-Go-Round off against Miami in Pasadena. They would go on to get manhandled 14-37 and basically have been a shitshow ever since. Still to date their last conference championship came in 1999 in San Antonio at the expense of my Longhorns but at least Bevo shat on the Alamobowl turf on his way out.
5 massive upsets in the last week of the season/conference championship games and yeah that's what we got to show for it. To be fair I don't think anyone was beating that Miami team that was possibly if not probably the greatest collection of NFL talent on one college roster.
11/24/2001: (edit Bedlam & NU/CU kicked at 3:30 CDT/2:30 MDT)
Defending champ Oklahoma started the fireworks off with Les Miles and his Cowboys from Oklahoma State going into Gaylord. OSU fell down 0-10 early but wound up winning 13-16.
Winning that game and in 2002 led to this Les Miles gem in 2003
Of course OSU would lose 9-52 that day and within 14 months would replace Nick Saban.
Nebraska started the season 11-0 and looked like a lock to face Miami then they got curb stomped American History X in style in Boulder 36–62 in the last game of the season to not even make the B12 CCG to get a shot at their nemesis Texas.
12/1/2001:
The following week Tennessee went down to the swamp to take on the Gators for a spot in the SEC championship game against LSU. Florida scored the late TD but Grossman blew the 2 point conversion and yes had the game not been postponed because of 9/11 I am pretty sure Florida wins as well.
Later that day Colorado headed down to rematch against Texas in the B12 CCG which was made famous by idiotbox Mack Brown putting Chris Simms back in the game despite having thrown four INT needless to say trash was thrown on the field and alcohol sales were stopped but at least Major Applewhite came in and nearly brought us back but ultimately lost 37-39.
12/8/2001:
That put Tennessee perfectly in line to go face Miami all they had to do was beat an 8-3 LSU team for the 2nd time that season essentially the exact same setup Texas blew the week before (Colorado was 9-2 but the rest holds). However unlike Texas they had the lead at halftime and just gave up the booty in the 2nd half giving up 21 points and only scoring 3.
That wound up putting Eric Crouch and Nebraska who started the whole Merry-Go-Round off against Miami in Pasadena. They would go on to get manhandled 14-37 and basically have been a shitshow ever since. Still to date their last conference championship came in 1999 in San Antonio at the expense of my Longhorns but at least Bevo shat on the Alamobowl turf on his way out.
5 massive upsets in the last week of the season/conference championship games and yeah that's what we got to show for it. To be fair I don't think anyone was beating that Miami team that was possibly if not probably the greatest collection of NFL talent on one college roster.
This post was edited on 7/18/26 at 8:22 pm
Posted on 7/18/26 at 8:10 pm to RollTide1987
We just couldn't stop the run against TN in that game. No one was beating Miami that year though.
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Posted on 7/18/26 at 9:12 pm to RollTide1987
They were a good team but let’s not act like the SEC was what it was from 2006-2017. That early schedule was a joke, State ended up 3-8 and LSU hadn’t gotten rolling yet.
They would’ve put a better fight than Nebraska did but Miami still would’ve won by 14+. I still contend Tennessee would’ve given Miami the best game that year. Should’ve made this post about the Vololols that choked yet another potential SEC title away
They would’ve put a better fight than Nebraska did but Miami still would’ve won by 14+. I still contend Tennessee would’ve given Miami the best game that year. Should’ve made this post about the Vololols that choked yet another potential SEC title away
Posted on 7/18/26 at 10:32 pm to WG_Dawg
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95 just happened ot face the best team that's ever existed
Rubbish.
Good luck lining up in 21/22 personnel with a QB, WR’s, and a TE who never even saw an NFL practice field and running over the better defenses of the last 25 years.
That will work against four “top ten” opponents that didn’t put a single player in the first round in the spring, and a Florida D that didn’t have anything higher than a third rounder for the next three years.
It won’t work against a defensive front with multiple first round talents and the greatest FS in the history of football running the alley on any perimeter runs or options. And that D being complemented by an offense with an NFL Hall of Famer at WR; the 2002 NFL Rookie of the Year at RB, and 2002 NFL All-Pro at TE.
Prior to 1995, Nebraska was a gnat’s arse away from an eight game bowl losing streak because they could not outmuscle FSU and Miami’s defensive fronts. If Miami had had ANY offense in 1994, they would have lost that game too, and Nebraska had a better OL that year with four seniors (including Stai and Wiegert) and then Orange Bowl hero Corey Schlesinger at FB.
Some of you must think guys like Lawrence Phillips were superhuman or something. The dude was highly impulsive and mentally ill and got exposed in the NFL when he wasn’t suspended. Not exactly the guy I would bet the farm on to dig deep and fight for every tough yard against a D like 2021 Georgia, especially without an elite passing game. That defense would squeeze the LOS around him like a python.
Defensively, I mean, who? Who are these monsters that are going to bottle up an O like 2019 LSU or 2020 Bama? 2919 LSU couldn’t handle Grant Wistrom, Phil Ellis, and Tyrone Williams? Sure.
Let me throw out this stat: 1995 Nebraska and all of their opponents combined had just 2 players drafted in the first round the following spring. 2019 LSU and their opponents had 20, including nine of the top ten.
That’s a different league of talent. And while I realize talent isn’t everything, when your RB, best LB, and key DT couldn’t even hardly start pro careers due to personal issues, your team probably wasn’t a model of discipline and character that’s much greater than the sum of its parts.
Posted on 7/18/26 at 10:40 pm to Globetrotter747
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Globetrotter747
No one is reading all of that shite.
Get a new shtick. You're wrong and that's all anyone concludes from your posts.
Posted on 7/18/26 at 10:54 pm to Globetrotter747
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1995 Nebraska and all of their opponents combined had just 2 players drafted in the first round the following spring.
yeah the Big 12 being a triple option / wishbone league didn't lead to many 1st round draft picks shocker, this definitely proves something
Posted on 7/19/26 at 1:57 am to Globetrotter747
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Florida needed a mulligan rematch and a switch to the shotgun just to win that one.
That they could adjust to the shotgun should be seen as a positive. The reason they "had' to was because of all the late hits from FSU that went uncalled. The first game was away at FSU. The second on a neutral field and UF dominated FSU 52-20.
The beatdown from Nebraska is what led to Spurrier hiring Stoops. UF was a different team on D afterwards ('96 and on).
Finally, for a team that wasn't physical, they sure beat the heck out of a lot of teams that ostensibly were.
Posted on 7/19/26 at 7:41 am to RollTide1987
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No one is reading all of that shite.
Then don’t.
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Get a new shtick. You're wrong and that's all anyone concludes from your posts.
How about pointing out how I’m wrong.
Give me a position group or style breakdown on how 1995 Nebraska matches up favorably against teams like 2001Miami or 2018 Clemson that had both a strong defensive front and an elite, balanced offense.
All I ever hear people say is, “Nebraska beat Florida really bad.”
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yeah the Big 12 being a triple option / wishbone league didn't lead to many 1st round draft picks shocker, this definitely proves something
First of all, it was the Big 8 in 1995. The last year the conference existed. The next year teams like Texas came into the expanded Big 12 and the going got a little tougher. The 1996 and 1999 Nebraska teams would have played for national titles if not for Texas and the Big 12
Second, no one was running the wishbone or triple option in the Big 8 in 1995. Everyone had moved on. Colorado had Kordell Stewart. Rashaan Salaam, and Michael Westbrook in 1994. Salaam and Westbrook were first rounders and Stewart a second rounder.
Nebraska opponents ran pro style offenses, and 1995 was a down year for mature, NFL ready talent. The weakest since at least 1990.
The 1995 AP Top Ten had 4 first round picks, 14 top 100 players. and 36 total picks. The 2019 top ten had 20 first round picks, 45 top 100 picks, and 72 total.
Combine that with a 12 game regular season, a conference championship, a playoff semifinal, and the number of asskickers 2019 LSU had to face was quite a bit more difficult than anyone in 1995.
2019 LSU had to bottle up 13 first round draft picks. 1995 Nebraska just one.
The more great players you play, the more likely it is one of them brings their A game and whips your arse. Priest Holmes ran all over Nebraska in 1996 on a mediocre 8-5 Texas team that was a 20.5 point underdog. Nebraska wouldn’t have had to even play that game in the Big 8.
In 1995, Switzer and McCartney had both left the Big 8 and the Big 12 wasn’t established.
Conference play on easy mode.
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That they could adjust to the shotgun should be seen as a positive.
I agree.
It’s an adjustment that they were very fortunate to have an opportunity to make in the rematch against FSU.
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The reason they "had' to was because of all the late hits from FSU that went uncalled.
It’s bigger than that. If you’re going to sling the ball from 10 personnel, it’s a lot easier to do that out of the shotgun.
If Florida had been in the shotgun in the Fiesta Bowl or the regular season FSU game, it would have helped a lot.
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The beatdown from Nebraska is what led to Spurrier hiring Stoops. UF was a different team on D afterwards ('96 and on).
I agree.
Stoops was a great DC with familiarity with the Nebraska scheme from his K-State days.
Florida had two things working against them against Nebraska that were as much scheme issues as anything else.
1. Nebraska pressured their passing game with speedy LB’s. FSU did the same thing the next year. Florida largely resolved this problem in the Sugar Bowl by implementing the shotgun.
2. Florida had zero experience against the Nebraska scheme - which was unconventional at the time - nor did they care anything about the running game. Hiring Stoops, putting more emphasis on D, and the Fiesta Bowl experience would have helped a lot had there been a rematch in 1996.
On the flipside of this, Nebraska went from playing guys like Cortez Kennedy, Derrick Brooks, Ray Lewis, and Warren Sapp - four NFL Hall of Famers - during a long bowl struggle to a very soft, young Florida D. That will help your running game quite a bit. And not only that but those Hall of Fame studs were coached by people like Jimmy Johnson and Mickey Andrews with extensive experience against the Nebraska offense.
I can tell you this from personal experience: If you try to run 21/22 personnel with basic I plays like sweeps, isos, counters, belly / speed option, etc., and the defensive front is better than you and you can’t throw it, it’s going to be hard to score.
That’s why Osborne was 5-12 against Switzer and Nebraska struggled against the physical FSU and Miami defenses of the era.
1995 Nebraska didn’t have to fool with prime FSU or Miami, prime OU, the Big 12 additions like Texas, or anyone OOC who was worth a shite.
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Finally, for a team that wasn't physical, they sure beat the heck out of a lot of teams that ostensibly were.
Like who?
Physically beaten.
This post was edited on 7/19/26 at 7:43 am
Posted on 7/19/26 at 8:50 am to RollTide1987
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And then they played an unranked Auburn squad at Jordan-Hare on a rainswept October night and got upset on a last second field goal. 17-20 the final.
I was at this game. Probably the loudest game I ever attended at J-H. You couldn’t even hear your own yells it was so loud.
Posted on 7/19/26 at 10:08 pm to Globetrotter747
Once again...no one is reading that wall of text.
Posted on 7/20/26 at 7:38 am to RollTide1987
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Once again...no one is reading that wall of text.
Well, that’s too bad because the younger crowd needs context so that we don’t have people thinking the Big 8 was “triple option/wishbone” in 1995, as someone said.
Here’s one stat for the “1995 Nebraska beat the hell out of everyone” crowd.
These are the times Nebraska put up 50+ from 1983-1993 before they ever broke through and won a national title:
50-59: 18
60-69: 11
70-79: 4
80-89: 1
And this is the combination of Miami and FSU from the same era:
50-59: 25
60-69: 6
70-79: 4
80-89: 0
FSU and Miami won five national titles and were 8-1 against the Huskers in this era - yet even then Nebraska still put up a lot more video game scores against overmatched opponents.
If a team couldn’t stop Osborne’s running game, he hammered them into oblivion. But if they could, his offense had little ability to throw it and rarely scored much. OU (in the wishbone) ran into the same problems against Miami from 1985-1987. 0-3 against Miami with scores of 14, 16, 14… but 33-0 with eleven scores of 50+ against everyone else.
FSU and Miami dominated Nebraska (and Oklahoma) in the ‘80s and ‘90s because they had strong defensive fronts and balanced offenses. No one Nebraska played in 1995 met that description.
In the only game 1995 Nebraska played the entire season with a first round defender in the game - against a 5-5-1 OU tteam - they didn’t score an offensive TD until the fourth quarter and Phillips and Frazier never touched the endzone.
Good luck against a defense like 2021 UGA with five first rounders on D and an O that can score. You’re not going to beat them without a highly capable passing game.
Posted on 7/20/26 at 10:27 am to Darth_Vader
2001 Auburn team was very weird and very Jeckyl and Hyde. We had a very good team but just sh*t the bed in some games. We got Syracuse at their place coming off the week off because of Sept 11th and we walked into a bad situation. First college game week after the tragedy and in New York. World against you type game. And we flopped.
Then we had a WTF game with Arkansas. Then just threw up on ourselves the last three games. Coach Tubbs was asleep at the wheel for the Bama game and they came in and got us. Then make up game against Saban led LSU the next week and they were starting to get really good. Bowl game was just another WTF game where we acted like we didn't know who Julius Peppers was and hadn't prepared for him at all.
Then we had a WTF game with Arkansas. Then just threw up on ourselves the last three games. Coach Tubbs was asleep at the wheel for the Bama game and they came in and got us. Then make up game against Saban led LSU the next week and they were starting to get really good. Bowl game was just another WTF game where we acted like we didn't know who Julius Peppers was and hadn't prepared for him at all.
Posted on 7/20/26 at 12:15 pm to Globetrotter747
Arguing against '95 Nebraska? Troll much?
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