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re: This is what a 16-team playoff would have looked like this past year...
Posted on 5/3/21 at 1:06 pm to paperwasp
Posted on 5/3/21 at 1:06 pm to paperwasp
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If we expanded to 8 or 16, it really would only matter if it was legitimately made up of the best teams, which would mean multiple teams from those top conferences.
Most of the people I have seen in favor of 8 want 5 automatic qualifiers from the P5 conferences and 3 at large. Some want the the best G5 team to fill one of the spots in the 3 at large.
In that system the most you could have from one conference would be 3.
Are all 8 teams title worthy? No but it solves many other issues we have imo
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 1:09 pm to skrayper
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Automatic qualifiers exist in a world that operates under the make-believe notion that all conferences are created equal.
Not at all, you can fully recognize that every conference isn't equal while still wanting a system like that because it solves other issues.
Some people only want teams that "truly deserve it" which can be argued over every year. There are other problems they overlook but complain about every year that could at least be helped or solved with changes to the current playoff.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 1:10 pm to dstone12
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this is why you
1. whittle the 65 teams of the p5 down to 64 with 4 super leagues
Yes!! I agree that the super-conference route is needed if we're going to expand, especially all the way up to 16.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 1:14 pm to paperwasp
quote:either Boston college, Syracuse or Rutgers have to go. Break up a hapless big12.
Yes!! I agree that the super-conference route is needed if we're going to expand, especially all the way up to 16.
Move wvu to an ACC/big east northern conference
Move ou and OSU (joined at the hip from what I’ve read, here) to the sec west.
Remaining Texas schools move to pac south because most chose NOT to join sec anyway.
Etc.
This post was edited on 5/3/21 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 5/3/21 at 1:15 pm to rockiee
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Not at all, you can fully recognize that every conference isn't equal while still wanting a system like that because it solves other issues.
Some people only want teams that "truly deserve it" which can be argued over every year. There are other problems they overlook but complain about every year that could at least be helped or solved with changes to the current playoff.
I'm not sure what "other issue" it solves?
You'll run into issues where, outside of a single team, some P5 conferences will be roughly on par with some G5 ones. In 2019, Clemson had a lower SOS than Memphis prior to the playoffs. Should Clemson have gotten an automatic qualifier because the ACC was, at one point, tougher than the AAC? Because in 2019, it wasn't.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 1:24 pm to RollTide1987
frick that. Four is already too many.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 1:25 pm to skrayper
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Automatic qualifiers exist in a world that operates under the make-believe notion that all conferences are created equal.
Totally Disagree, no one believes all divisions or conferences are equal
Posted on 5/3/21 at 1:27 pm to skrayper
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I'm not sure what "other issue" it solves?
One of many examples is the opt out issue
You can keep more teams involved and something to play for, will it solve every opt out? Of course not but it certainly won't hurt and could only help. I believe it will help on an individual and team level. Some are often looking at it as if "teams seeded 3-8 have no chance" but that isn't the only thing that matters. Do those players and teams think they can win?
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Should Clemson have gotten an automatic qualifier because the ACC was, at one point, tougher than the AAC? Because in 2019, it wasn't.
If Clemson won their league than yes. I'm not going to pretend like any solution is perfect. You have to have some type of structure and it will have draw back at times like any of the post season formats.
This post was edited on 5/3/21 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 5/3/21 at 1:28 pm to dstone12
I love this but the Midwest and Atlantic North would be the shittiest conferences in the history of Power conference football.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 1:30 pm to gladchiefisgone
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IMO it will be a 8 team playoff before long
The contract under which we have 4 is up in a couple years. Speculation (I did a thread on it) is 8 then 16 on the next contract. I really wish it wasn’t so.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 1:31 pm to Smokeyone
If they want 16 they need to skip 8
I want 8, but even that will be pushing it most years.
You’ll have too many boring as frick 1 vs 8 and 2 vs 7 games for people to be clamoring for 16.
I want 8, but even that will be pushing it most years.
You’ll have too many boring as frick 1 vs 8 and 2 vs 7 games for people to be clamoring for 16.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 1:36 pm to Tuscaloosa
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You want to explain why that's a stupid statement? Better yet, can you go through the final rankings of the last (fill in the blank number) of years and list all the teams that finished ranked #16 that were national title caliber?
Thanks.
No I don't want to explain it, but since you are being stubborn I will.
No one really believes that any of the teams that barely make it in will win a national title, but they do pull off the occasional upset. The argument that Bama fans make ad nauseam is that these games won' be competitive which is beside the point and wrong. There will be more competitive games with a 16 seed format or even better, a 24 game format. The 24 game format is basically just an 8 game format, but the teams ranked 9-16 will play the teams ranked 17-24 in the first round with teams ranked 1-8 getting a bye.
Now if you don't think a team out of the top 4 can give the champion a tussle then you don't watch college football. This year both Ole Miss and Florida gave Bama competitive games and last year there were several teams that didn't make the playoff who played LSU to the wire. UF and Texas were 2 that I can think of off the top of my head.
So that is my main point in expanding the playoff, is that it will keep more players from opting out and it will also give us more competitive playoff games to watch.
And if I were a Bama fan I wouldn't want it changed either, for no other reason than things are going absolutely fine the way it is right now.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 1:41 pm to RollTide1987
UAB would've upset Bama, just like they did that time y'all got matched up vs UAB in the NIT. You bunch of scared littles pussies have been dodging my mfing BLAZERS ever since 
UAB - 1
Saban - 0
UAB - 1
Saban - 0
Posted on 5/3/21 at 1:44 pm to weremoose
quote:I know. But that’s the way it is.
I love this but the Midwest and Atlantic North would be the shittiest conferences in the history of Power conference football.
That Atlantic north would have ND, WVU and VT.
That Midwest div would have rivalries that matter....to each other and you’d still get a good Wisconsin ever few years.
There’s no real way to preserve college football rivalries unless we went back to traditional:
SWC
Big East
Big10
Sec
Pac10
ACC
But that’s over.
Try it recoup it with 8 or 4 even numbered divisions.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 1:45 pm to paperwasp
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We complain about these boring regular-season OOC games. Why do we want to see those same type of games in a playoff?
What if they seeded it from the actual end-of-year rankings, regardless of conference affiliation? If there are four SEC teams, so be it. (In the current system, the schedules aren't balanced anyway.)
Agree. OSU is a perennial contender so count them in. Bama, Clemson, give me 5 more who would make it competitive year in and year out. I would rather see a rematch of LSU/Georgia than LSU vs Oklahoma even though one of the B12 teams would be in. Bama vs Georgia has put on a good show when they've played. Much rather see those kind of games. 10th and 11th teams aren't beating Bama or Clemson etc.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 1:53 pm to BowlJackson
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UAB would've upset Bama, just like they did that time y'all got matched up vs UAB in the NIT. You bunch of scared littles pussies have been dodging my mfing BLAZERS ever since
UAB - 1
Saban - 0
Here's a tip to make your margaritas even better. Cut your Tequila amount in half and add Vodka in it's place.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 1:58 pm to zadams_318
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16 isnt reasonable.
Yet somehow the FCS and other divisions pull it off every year.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 1:59 pm to kajunman
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Here's a tip to make your margaritas even better. Cut your Tequila amount in half and add Vodka in it's place
You're right, Bama is like a girly drink. On account of their gaping bleeding vaginas
Posted on 5/3/21 at 2:00 pm to MedDawg
quote:good point but that’s because you can’t really fine tune the fcs. The fbs is a money machine and they will only tweak things when necessary.
Yet somehow the FCS and other divisions pull it off every year.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 2:03 pm to RollTide1987
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All of the upper tier SEC teams would have made it. That’s pretty incredible.
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