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re: This is what a 16-team playoff would have looked like this past year...
Posted on 5/3/21 at 12:39 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 5/3/21 at 12:39 pm to RollTide1987
I would be for an 8 team playoff if 4 of the teams are from the SEC.
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 12:42 pm to RollTide1987
IMO it will be a 8 team playoff before long...too much talk going around. I'd say by 2024 it will be 8 teams.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 12:43 pm to Tuscaloosa
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16 aint 64
I'd argue it's the football equivalent.
Sounds perfect, then. Cause there ain't much better than the first weekend of the NCAA tourney.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 12:45 pm to RollTide1987
Some of those first round games, a team could use their backups and still win and advance and treat it like a bye week
Is that what we want from a 16 team playoff
Is that what we want from a 16 team playoff
This post was edited on 5/3/21 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 5/3/21 at 12:45 pm to Tuscaloosa
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People tune in to watch UMBC play Virginia because there's an outside shot of it being competitive. Nobody outside of the Southeast wants to watch Alabama bench their starters in the 3rd quarter vs. 3-loss Northwestern.
Outside shot? I'm not sure that really isn't putting into perspective the 1 vs 16 match up. 1 out of 140 or so
The vast majority of people don't watch those match ups until they hear its a close game towards the end. Do you think there was a ton of interest in UMBC vs Virginia going into the game? Everyone just assumed it would end like every other 1 v 16.
Either way, if Bama lost to NW in the extremely unlikely situation. It wouldn't be just Cinderalls and bottom feeders excited to see it.
This post was edited on 5/3/21 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 5/3/21 at 12:45 pm to Hugh McElroy
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Sounds perfect, then. Cause there ain't much better than the first weekend of the NCAA tourney.
That's because parity exists in college basketball.
There is virtually no parity in college football, and in the information age, with all the money the top dogs in college football make, the facilities arms races that will always be won by the same programs - that isn't going to change. There's no room at the top.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 12:46 pm to nicholastiger
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Some of those first round games, a team could use their backups and still win and advance and treat it like a bye week
Is that what we want from a 16 team playoff
Or you can just give certain seeds byes, not sure why some are ignoring that
Posted on 5/3/21 at 12:48 pm to RollTide1987
12 team playoff with the first 4 getting a bye is the way. All of these games would be great for ratings. Here’s the 2019 week 12 standings that’d give us a more realistic bracket:
Playoffs Week 1 BYE
1. LSU
2. Ohio State
3. Clemson
4. Alabama
Low seed has home field advantage:
5 Georgia vs 12 Baylor
6 Oregon vs 11 Florida
7 Minnesota vs 10 OU
8 Utah vs 9 Penn State
Round 2 match up highest seed with appropriate Bye team.
Playoffs Week 1 BYE
1. LSU
2. Ohio State
3. Clemson
4. Alabama
Low seed has home field advantage:
5 Georgia vs 12 Baylor
6 Oregon vs 11 Florida
7 Minnesota vs 10 OU
8 Utah vs 9 Penn State
Round 2 match up highest seed with appropriate Bye team.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 12:48 pm to RollTide1987
Would have been fun
Posted on 5/3/21 at 12:48 pm to RollTide1987
I personally want a four team playoff after all of the bowl games have been played. It would make bowl games relevant again and it wouldn’t water down the playoff system.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 12:48 pm to RollTide1987
When you have teams like Ball State, San Jose State, UAB, and Coastal Carolina in there, that's a pretty clear giveaway that there are too many teams.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 12:52 pm to nicholastiger
Try keeping 16 starting quarterbacks healthy in that type of 16 team scenario.
Think about Mac Jones and Justin fields having an ankle or a knee rolled on against Uab or Cincinnati in round one. in a game that really won’t be competitive. But a d end can still beat a tackle on one play and ruin a postseason for a star player. It can happen anytime but don’t let it happen in a meaningless round of a playoff.
Just get us to the games that matter in college football. Men’s basketball and college football are completely different.
8 is possibly too many already.
Think about Mac Jones and Justin fields having an ankle or a knee rolled on against Uab or Cincinnati in round one. in a game that really won’t be competitive. But a d end can still beat a tackle on one play and ruin a postseason for a star player. It can happen anytime but don’t let it happen in a meaningless round of a playoff.
Just get us to the games that matter in college football. Men’s basketball and college football are completely different.
8 is possibly too many already.
This post was edited on 5/3/21 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 5/3/21 at 12:52 pm to Tuscaloosa
just wait on the melt when Bama/OSU/Clemson has a down year and ends up winning as a 9 seed. the 4-team format is the only thing keeping those big 3 from really taking over more than they already have.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 12:58 pm to rockiee
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Nah, just 8
8 is just as bad. 5 teams playing that really didn’t earn a spot.
3 team play off. 2 vs 3 and 2 weeks later 2/3 winner vs 1. This solves 99% of the years were 3 teams at most earned a spot. In fact the 3rd team is unnecessary in most years because you can’t find 3 undefeated P5 conference champions in most years. At best you can get 2. So in most years you can just do a clear cut 1 vs 2 and save the 2 vs 3 for years when it’s not clear.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 1:00 pm to kajunman
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I would be for an 8 team playoff if 4 of the teams are from the SEC
This right here is one of the problems with all of this.
Look at the draft results - clearly the top few conferences are dominating most of the talent.
If we expanded to 8 or 16, it really would only matter if it was legitimately made up of the best teams, which would mean multiple teams from those top conferences.
But they will never do that, so we'll be stuck with terrible teams that win lesser conferences, and the same few teams will still be in the finals every year. (All we're doing is adding extra games.)
We complain about these boring regular-season OOC games. Why do we want to see those same type of games in a playoff?
What if they seeded it from the actual end-of-year rankings, regardless of conference affiliation? If there are four SEC teams, so be it. (In the current system, the schedules aren't balanced anyway.)
Posted on 5/3/21 at 1:00 pm to Smokeyone
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3 team play off. 2 vs 3 and 2 weeks later 2/3 winner vs 1. This solves 99% of the years were 3 teams at most earned a spot. In fact the 3rd team is unnecessary in most years because you can’t find 3 undefeated P5 conference champions in most years. At best you can get 2. So in most years you can just do a clear cut 1 vs 2 and save the 2 vs 3 for years when it’s not clear.
I enjoyed that. Posted on 5/3/21 at 1:01 pm to Smokeyone
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5 teams playing that really didn’t earn a spot.
No, at least 5 would have to earn a spot by automatically qualifying
Posted on 5/3/21 at 1:04 pm to Nicky_Santoro
I did the previous 3 (2017-2019).
If you want more, I'll send the link and you can do them yourself.
If you want more, I'll send the link and you can do them yourself.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 1:06 pm to paperwasp
quote:this is why you
If we expanded to 8 or 16, it really would only matter if it was legitimately made up of the best teams, which would mean multiple teams from those top conferences.
1. whittle the 65 teams of the p5 down to 64 with 4 super leagues....heading that way anyway.
2. create an nfl-like “hey, win your division and you’re in”, makes the game between Florida and Georgia mean even more.
3. Either re seed 1-8 or make different geographies play each other and you can end up with an Alabama/Florida national championship.
Eliminate conf champ games and at large bids.
This post was edited on 5/3/21 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 5/3/21 at 1:06 pm to rockiee
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No, at least 5 would have to earn a spot by automatically qualifying
Automatic qualifiers exist in a world that operates under the make-believe notion that all conferences are created equal.
The NFL draft has proven that for the past several years, that is most assuredly not the case.
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