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re: The perils of the transfer portal,

Posted on 2/4/21 at 8:07 am to
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 8:07 am to
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You may have named the 1%.


It's literally 2 guys from the same 27 man recruiting class.

And considering how close we are to the 25 man limit, 2 guys is substantial......do you need me to do the math for you or are you good there?
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
30875 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 8:09 am to
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Just because you don't like it or can't understand doesn't mean it's a lie.


If people understood this, politics in this country would be vastly different.

And a great many other things.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14030 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 8:09 am to
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So what you are saying is that Nick Saban is the best at what he does.


yes

and you are insignificant
Posted by Jacknola
New Orleans
Member since May 2013
4366 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 8:10 am to
Oh oh oh my god... Bama, refs, CALL THE FBI, SEC office, Chargers, must be cheating, where is my lawyer have to sue because of mental duress, have to play when hot, to cold and no hot chocolate, can’t play cause of Covid tracking, can’t make me play 739 days naah nah ... NONONO please don’t make me play, 55-17, stub my toe dam Bama, mumble mumble, Ritter, replay, refs refs, must be cheating helped by NCAA, fixed, I hate Bama, I hate waking up in a world of Bama, asterisk, doesn’t count, fake season, mumble mumble, refs. SEC office in Birmingham, schedule is fixed, have to play Florida, they get to play Tennessee, blah blah blah...we have Covid and shouldn’t have to play Bama, Satan is Sabah short midget little Nickie, worst NFL coach in history, mumble, mumble, mumble, guns in cars, no air conditioning, refs, sec office allows special Bama recruiting with Chargers, waaaaaa no fair, I want my Mommy, refs, 50 yard line, coulda woulda shoulda, doesn’t test for weed, our compliance department makes us do it, call the CIA, I think u might have known someone whose cousin had Covid so the team can’t play Bama. Oh oh oh oh I hate that wascally wabbitt Bama. Asterisks fake championships...
This post was edited on 2/4/21 at 8:16 am
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52504 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 8:15 am to
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So what exactly is your alternative theory here?





I don't really have one, just saying its odd that a highly recruited player would offer to pay his own way.

You rarely ever see that, even among kids who are lifelong fans of this school or that and can afford it.
Posted by Pastor Mike
Florida
Member since Dec 2020
5119 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 8:36 am to
So we agree again
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42524 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 8:44 am to
It's typical NCAA though, they make these rules but don't factor everything into it and loopholes allow schools to get around it. To me, if it's 25 than it should be a hard cap like baseball.

But then if you look at baseball, some teams like LSU and UGA have the TOPS and HOPE scholarships that other schools don't and Vandy has that advantage that can give athletes above the limits in place for all other schools.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 8:45 am to
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It's typical NCAA though, they make these rules but don't factor everything into it and loopholes allow schools to get around it.


That's fine, but that's a different discussion.
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18151 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 8:48 am to

UT is a dumpster fire... High recruiting class will drop

Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 8:48 am to
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UT is a dumpster fire... High recruiting class will drop


They basically self imposed probation. Unfortunately for them, they will probably also have to actually self impose probation, too.
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
24264 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 8:52 am to
You should write a book and title it Soup for the Souls of Alabama Fans with posts by LSU Patrick because your whining is invigorating.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26958 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 9:00 am to
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gray shirts that is the system. Saban has the capital built up to when he ask a kid to gray shirt they say yes sir. When other schools ask they look elsewhere.


Since he got off the plane in January, 2007, every recruit he's signed that stayed for three years...including the grayshirts...has won at least one national championship. Maybe they think it's a worthwhile decision to make.
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22455 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 9:10 am to
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quote:

Really? A guy like Paul Tyson who is Bear Bryant's great grandson, whose family can easily afford to pay his way, wouldn't do so?

I said 99%. You may have named the 1%.



Why are you putting the burden on him? Even if he did find the "1 percent" --- surely you can name at least three who are in that 99 percent category, right? If not, I would suggest your percentages are wrong.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42288 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 9:13 am to
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I meant explain it without lying.


Point to the lie in that post. Be specific.

You assert multiple times in this thread that Alabama is certainly cheating, but you don't provide any evidence, substance, etc. to back it up.
This post was edited on 2/4/21 at 9:20 am
Posted by CajunTiger_225
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
9201 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 8:16 pm to
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What's strange is that some of you truly think that Alabama is, out in the open, violating what is essentially a "counting rule" that is easily caught by the NCAA and by anyone who works through the math. And that the NCAA is letting Alabama do it in front of everyone. That's pretty stupid.

That's not strange.
I don't think anyone's saying that? I imagine everything looks legit on paper. Whats strange is highly sought after recruits most of which could never afford the tuitions and cost of moving to Tuscaloosa without a scholarship have many opportunities at big programs for a free ride but choose to "pay their way." I get that there's examples of players that can. But that's two guys. Bama has taken in 103 guys over the last 4 years.
If it's not complicated why is Bama the only program consistently doing it? Probably because it takes a deep infrastructure and involves very unethical practices
This post was edited on 2/4/21 at 8:33 pm
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19694 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 9:20 pm to
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I meant explain it without lying.
just because you are too dumb to understand doesn't mean someone is lying
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75855 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 9:24 pm to
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LSU Patrick


Will someone please help Pattie Cakes find his nuts?

His Alabama penis envy caused his to fall off.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 9:25 pm to
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Whats strange is highly sought after recruits most of which could never afford the tuitions and cost of moving to Tuscaloosa without a scholarship have many opportunities at big programs for a free ride but choose to "pay their way." I get that there's examples of players that can. But that's two guys.


Yea, it's 2 specific guys. Who the hell is coming from far away and walking on at Alabama? Did you just make up a scenario in your head? The majority of greyshirts (which are different than the 2 mentioned) are in-state kids coming off injury issues. They pay for 1 semester of college and then start their scholarship in the Spring semester.

quote:

Bama has taken in 103 guys over the last 4 years.


Alabama has had 15 guys leave early for the NFL over the last 4 years by my quick count. Alabama had had 8-9 guys transfer.

And, you are now arguing a completely different subject, which is the 85 man scholarship limit, than the subject of the 25 man signing cap.

But, no matter the discussion, the points made or the truth, this is truly where most of you end up regardless of anything

quote:

Probably because it involves very unethical practices




Which is, of course, hilarious coming from fans of a program currently only able to have 81 players on scholarship because of........

quote:

unethical practices





It's ok to just admit you don't know or get it. Showing that you don't understand it and then implying that because you don't understand it means it had to be "shady" or "unethical" is pretty low grade.
This post was edited on 2/4/21 at 9:30 pm
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75855 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 9:26 pm to
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What's strange is that some of you truly think that Alabama is, out in the open, violating what is essentially a "counting rule" that is easily caught by the NCAA and by anyone who works through the math. And that the NCAA is letting Alabama do it in front of everyone. That's pretty stupid.


You give them too much credit, George.

Your average LSU fan can barely count to 25, let alone decipher complex scholarship voodoo.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75855 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 9:28 pm to
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It seems that his dad worked at AT&T until his death and his mom is a pharmacist so I doubt they're millionaires although a college fund is certainly likely.


I'd wager a substantial life insurance policy was taken out as well.
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