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re: Karen Read murder trial

Posted by civiltiger07 on 6/15/25 at 11:04 am
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Also, when Karen first talked to Jen that morning she thought she left JOK at the Waterfall.


This is purely a lie from Jen to words in Karen’s mouth. Jen McCabe is a lying liar.

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the dog bites were such a huge part of this case. Should the commonwealth have agreed and said yeah, after JOK was laying in the yard they let the dog out to do his business and he must’ve tore his arm up? To me that would’ve changed the whole narrative.


If the CW admits the scratches are from a dog then what are the injuries sustained from impacting the Lexus?

re: Karen Read murder trial

Posted by civiltiger07 on 6/15/25 at 7:08 am
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supposedly Karen could not have hit him, because of the cell phone evidence and the timing of her connecting to the WiFi


Ah ok

John’s phone was locked by human interaction at 12:32. Karen connected to John’s WiFi at 12:36. This means that Karen had to have left 34 Fairview before 12:32. According to google it’s a 7 minute drive.

Whatever happened to John may have happened to him while Karen was still parked in the street in front of 34 Fairview.

re: Karen Read murder trial

Posted by civiltiger07 on 6/15/25 at 6:59 am
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who punched him, what did he hit his head on


Don’t know who punched him, it wasn’t Karen and he didn’t hit his head on Karen’s Lexus.

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all of this somehow happened within 4 minutes of KR leaving the house??


Where does this 4 minutes come from?

You are falling in the same trap that the first jury did. We don’t know who did this to John but Karen was there so it could be her.

It wasn’t Karen. Based on the evidence I am confident that Karen had nothing to do with John’s death.

re: Karen Read murder trial

Posted by civiltiger07 on 6/14/25 at 10:02 pm
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Did either side claim the phone was off?


Not turned off but the lock button was pressed at 12:32 and some seconds.

The prosecution is alleging that the pedestrian strike happened sometime after the lock button was pressed.

That would mean Karen had 4 minutes to make it back to John’s house. According to google it is a 7 minute drive, and Jen McCabe testified that it took them 10 minutes to drive from John’s house to 34 Fairview the morning they found John.

re: Karen Read murder trial

Posted by civiltiger07 on 6/14/25 at 9:24 pm
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For me, I’m not convinced she didn’t have a part in it.


That’s what I asking about. What kind of a part do you think she had in the death of John O’Keefe?

He was bit by a dog, punched in the face, and hit his head on something when he fell backwards.

re: Karen Read murder trial

Posted by civiltiger07 on 6/14/25 at 8:19 pm
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I’m still not convinced what happened that night and if she’s “innocent”


What keeps you from ruling out the Karen Read had anything to do with it?

re: Karen Read murder trial

Posted by civiltiger07 on 6/14/25 at 8:04 pm
She is innocent

re: Karen Read murder trial

Posted by civiltiger07 on 6/13/25 at 5:17 pm
Ole Bev doesn’t want a partial verdict. All or nothing.

re: Karen Read murder trial

Posted by civiltiger07 on 6/13/25 at 3:27 pm
Sounds like the jury is going to be sent home for the weekend.

re: Karen Read murder trial

Posted by civiltiger07 on 6/13/25 at 1:39 pm
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take some time electing a foreman


Bev picks the foreman.

re: Karen Read murder trial

Posted by civiltiger07 on 6/13/25 at 8:01 am
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Bev already denied defense motion for "transparency regarding alternate juror selection".


She does things how she does things.

re: Karen Read murder trial

Posted by civiltiger07 on 6/13/25 at 6:17 am
What kind of pretzels will Brennan tie himself into during closing arguments today?

How many times will he misrepresent facts of the case?

Will he make an Ouch objection during Jackson's closing?

re: Karen Read murder trial

Posted by civiltiger07 on 6/12/25 at 1:32 pm
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Did they do a blood test to prove this?


The blood test they did is not the test that is done when you are arrested for DUI. Also, the sample was taken around 8 or 9 am the morning after and the results were an "estimate".

re: Karen Read murder trial

Posted by civiltiger07 on 6/12/25 at 11:23 am
I believe Brennan is covering his own arse. It’s my opinion he canceled the rebuttal case because calling welcher and Hartnett to the stand could get into misconduct on his part.

Welcher may have testified that Brennan didn’t give him X-rays or OJO right arm.

Hartnett may have testified that they discussed her taking the clippings from the hoodie in testimony prep meetings.

Then today Lally handles all of the argument for charges and Brennan is just sitting silent at the table.

re: Karen Read murder trial

Posted by civiltiger07 on 6/12/25 at 10:55 am
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I read all the time on TD that women are crazy. Why is this situation so hard to believe? There really seems no other reasonable explanation.



what a strange fricking statement

Are you not able to keep a girlfriend or something?

re: Karen Read murder trial

Posted by civiltiger07 on 6/12/25 at 10:44 am
The state wants to argue the fact that Karen moved her Lexus from John's house to her parents house as a consciousness of guilt. Of course the judge replies, "I'm going to allow that".

re: Karen Read murder trial

Posted by civiltiger07 on 6/12/25 at 10:41 am
the defense is still worried about the formatting of the jury slip, and the judge doesn't seem willing to make any changes to the jury slip at all.

re: Karen Read murder trial

Posted by civiltiger07 on 6/12/25 at 10:01 am
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I think there's proof that he was not hit.


absolutely this

re: Karen Read murder trial

Posted by civiltiger07 on 6/12/25 at 9:31 am
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Guilty of manslaughter. She should be punished for driving that drunk.


Albert or McCabe?

re: Karen Read murder trial

Posted by civiltiger07 on 6/12/25 at 9:24 am
Why in the world is Lally doing this argument?

And of course lally misrepresented multiple things in his argument.