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re: The controversy about Freeze is non-sensical, liberal BS

Posted on 11/29/22 at 1:07 pm to
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
9424 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 1:07 pm to
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This isn't about left or right or legalities or religion.

It's simply a question of if you think it's appropriate for a guy who's recruiting high school students to come to a college and play football to hire prostitutes to lure those students in and keep them happy being on the team.

If you think that's okay, you're likely okay with the Freeze hire.

If you don't, you're likely against it.


I don't condone what Freeze did. But, if you think what he did was out of the norm you know nothing about big-time athlete recruiting. It's not right but hiring prostitutes or using female campus host student groups as de facto prostitutes for players and recruits is a normal practice.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50468 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 1:07 pm to
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The controversy about Freeze is non-sensical, liberal BS


Yep
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
2750 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 1:07 pm to
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Sure it was bad judgment for him to contact the woman but he did nothing illegal or unethical.


You lost me with "unethical". One of the top most influential, powerful and prominent figures for the school sending an unsolicited private message to the victim in order to advocate for his boss is unethical. Freeze can make a general statement in public defending McCaw but directly addressing this girl in a private manner is not alright. And nobody here would appreciate some guy with ZERO room to opine on matters related to appropriate sexual behavior to privately address their daughter on issues related to appropriate sexual behavior. Especially if you daughter was in the same vulnerable position this student was in. Freeze needs to grasp the power dynamic in his correspondence was ridiculously in his favor and very intimidating.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46488 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 1:13 pm to
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It's not right but hiring prostitutes or using female campus host student groups as de facto prostitutes for players and recruits is a normal practice.


No it’s not a normal practice Having female hosts isn’t “de facto prostitutes” either. By that token, having female trainers and nutritionists and academic staff and media relations specialists work with recruits and current players is also prostitution. Recruting hosts are working a job that, quite frankly, not a lot of males are inclined to do well. Most recruiting hosts aren’t even working with the player so much as they are working with the families; the coaches are working the recruit, the hosts are trying to relate to momma, the siblings, and dad as a student on campus who has also been well versed in the art of recruiting to that program
This post was edited on 11/29/22 at 1:14 pm
Posted by ThundrHawg
The Flagship™
Member since Sep 2010
3208 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 1:14 pm to
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Go on and trust the science. I'm fine with my choices and my love for Jesus. I was once an atheist so I know you are a wounded soul. You can be redeemed or you can go to hell. The choice is yours.


Thanks for your permission, now please get your dusty book and invisible sky men the frick off my government and laws.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78605 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 1:15 pm to
I don't believe I have an option to forgive a sincere apology. I am compelled to do so. This is my understanding of the Christian principle at the near-center of our lives. But what I do and remember after I extend forgiveness, as long as it is ethical, is up to me. I can forgive and forget, I can forgive and not forget, but I shall forgive.

Except for the Moops, those swarthy bastards. I will never forgive them.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American southerner
Member since Nov 2013
35958 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 1:16 pm to
and she tagged him on Twitter before he responded


media won't tell you that
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53468 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 1:18 pm to
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Everything isn't about politics


True. But read her stuff. It 100% is full of it
Posted by wareaglepete
Lumon Industries
Member since Dec 2012
10987 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 1:20 pm to
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Straight out of the Auburn Creed


Section 1 of the 1st Amendment to the Auburn Creed:

frick Bama!
This post was edited on 11/29/22 at 1:21 pm
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
51823 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 1:24 pm to
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Sure it was bad judgment for him to contact the woman but he did nothing illegal or unethical.


Maybe I read it wrong, but one her tweets said she tagged him originally in a tweet I guess she was blasting the AD in and he responded. Stupid, but the way it was originally portrayed he just DM'd her out of the blue and unprovoked.

But I may have misunderstood. He does need to stay away from Twitter outside of promoting AU...place is a shithole as it is.
Posted by C W
Member since Mar 2020
2686 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 1:31 pm to
What’s the issue? Are you serious? Perhaps, I mean just perhaps some parents may not want somebody hooking their children up with prostitutes

What a moron
Posted by Literalist
Minnesota
Member since Oct 2014
3478 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 1:33 pm to
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For the men who have an issue with Freeze.


A little strange Poon now and then...

Are welcomed by the best of men.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21693 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 1:34 pm to
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What’s the issue? Are you serious? Perhaps, I mean just perhaps some parents may not want somebody hooking their children up with prostitutes



Don't go getting all liberal on us! The guy apologized to jesus. It's a clean slate now. I just hired a child molester to baby sit my kid. He repented, so I had to forgive him.
Posted by Shunface
Lafayette County Detention Center
Member since Jan 2013
4582 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 1:37 pm to
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Easy. If you buy pussy and repent I won't hold it against you and God won't hold it against you either.


I’ve got a four year old with a similar mindset to yours.

“It’s ok that I did something bad, I knew it was bad. But I did say I was sorry, so you can’t be mad.”

Posted by Jebadeb
Member since Oct 2017
4763 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 1:47 pm to
What about making girls change in front of him and paddling them?
Posted by thatthang
Member since Jan 2012
6770 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 1:47 pm to
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I'm a Bama fan but that's not important right now. This is about values and being consistent. The left wants to deem sex work as legitimate work. So, what's the big deal if Freeze may have bought some hookers for players or recruits or himself? Next thing. The issue with the Liberty student. That issue took place before Freeze was at Liberty and is over legally. Sure it was bad judgment for him to contact the woman but he did nothing illegal or unethical. For the men who have an issue with Freeze. You best believe leftists hate you just as much as any other heterosexual male. I'm delighted Auburn stuck to their guns and hired Freeze. Grace and redemption are real. People who think you are to always answer for mistakes are non-believers in Jesus and they can kiss off.


I’m not exaggerating when I say this is one of the dumbest and most incoherent posts I’ve seen on here in quite a while. Just breaking logic and contradicting yourself all over the place.

Unfortunately I read the whole thing. Can you please repent for this hardship you caused me to endure?
Posted by GusAU
Member since Mar 2014
3650 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 1:49 pm to
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Straight out of the Auburn Creed

Says the loser who worships the alter of the crapstone….


Posted by Shunface
Lafayette County Detention Center
Member since Jan 2013
4582 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 1:51 pm to
Look he said he was sorry for making underage girls change in front of him. He said he was sorry for calling hookers in his university phone after lying about it. He said he was sorry for harassing the rape victim at Liberty.

I mean what fricking more do you want from the guy? He’s clearly a good Christian man with high morals. I just don’t see how he could mess up again. I mean look at all the things he’s learned from and apologized for.
Posted by r2d2
Member since Dec 2006
6842 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 2:02 pm to
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So, what's the big deal if Freeze may have bought some hookers for players or recruits or himself?


Nothing wrong with it… but when you are also a Bible thumping Jesus quoting “good man” you are a lying untrustworthy POS.
Posted by Buryl
Member since Sep 2016
826 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 2:20 pm to
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So, what's the big deal if Freeze may have bought some hookers for players or recruits or himself? Next thing.

It's illegal. And unethical. That's the big deal.

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Next thing. The issue with the Liberty student. That issue took place before Freeze was at Liberty and is over legally. Sure it was bad judgment for him to contact the woman but he did nothing illegal or unethical.

Probably not illegal, likely unethical, DEFINITELY incredibly stupid, and shows a history of poor judgment.

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For the men who have an issue with Freeze. You best believe leftists hate you just as much as any other heterosexual male.

This is nonsensical...

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I'm delighted Auburn stuck to their guns and hired Freeze. Grace and redemption are real.

You are conflating religious and secular ideas. Redemption is between a sinner and God. Being a football coach is secular. Being forgiven does NOT mean you deserve a $6 million dollar job as a football coach. One has NOTHING to do with the other.


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People who think you are to always answer for mistakes are non-believers in Jesus and they can kiss off.

Taking responsibility for your actions makes you a "non-believer"? That's absurd, and literally the exact OPPOSITE of one of the most fundamental beliefs of Christianity.
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