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re: Taking these players is the morally correct position

Posted on 8/25/26 at 11:28 am to
Posted by lsu711
Member since Sep 2003
15637 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 11:28 am to
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98% of the college football world is adamantly against this.

98% of the world isn’t liable for a decision that courts have already ruled is unfair.
Posted by LSUtigerNVegas9
Member since Nov 2025
207 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 11:29 am to
As I said mental gymnastics. Doesn’t matter if you’re ill. You do t get 6 years to play college football. 5 for 5 rule.
Posted by Buster83
Somewhere in Texas usually
Member since Aug 2021
5963 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 11:30 am to
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Taking these players is the morally correct position


Tell them they can come back for one more year but NIL is not an option for them just like it was when they were freshman. I wonder how many would come back?

Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79873 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 11:30 am to
Does Ferris State have an ENT on staff? No.

Do real doctors only keep
medical records for medical redshirt purposes? Also no.
Posted by 03 West CoChamps
Member since Sep 2024
1004 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 11:30 am to
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As I said mental gymnastics. Doesn’t matter if you’re ill. You do t get 6 years to play college football. 5 for 5 rule.


Wrong. It was 5 to play 4. But if you get a medical redshirt you get 6 to play 5. It has been that way for decades.
Posted by 03 West CoChamps
Member since Sep 2024
1004 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 11:31 am to
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Does Ferris State have an ENT on staff? No.

Do real doctors only keep
medical records for medical redshirt purposes? Also no.


Exactly you are making my point. SEC schools keep medical records. D2 doesn't. So NCAA didn't have documentation they needed to grant it. Once in court and the documentation was presented it was a slam dunk to be granted. You are making my point for me.
This post was edited on 8/25/26 at 11:32 am
Posted by Quicksilver
Poker Room
Member since Jan 2013
13330 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 11:31 am to
The reason the courts ruled in favor of Chambliss is that, even if you don't "believe him", his attorney provided more than adequate documentation and satisfied every requirement necessary for a medical redshirt and the NCAA ruled against him anyways.

Tom Mars keeps dunking on the NCAA because they make it easy.
Posted by OleVaught14
Member since Jun 2019
12598 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 11:32 am to
Like with many things, the NCAA messed up with the Trinidad situation.

They had told Ole Miss multiple times during the fall that they were going to grant his medical redshirt waiver, only to later decide to decline it and not give a reason as to why.
Posted by VideoStore
Member since Jul 2026
38 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 11:32 am to
Agreed, especially because their education.
Posted by NussBusDriver
Mississippi
Member since Sep 2024
241 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 11:33 am to
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But if you get a medical redshirt you get 6 to play 5. It has been that way for decades.


But he didn't get a medical redshirt. His illness didn't meet the guidelines. He was ruled ineligible. A Miss Judge gave him a TRO forcing the NCAA to allow him to play.
Posted by 03 West CoChamps
Member since Sep 2024
1004 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 11:33 am to
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reason as to why.


they didn't want to open the door to allow a 6th year for no reason and without the documentation from Ferris State their hands were tied. They didn't try really hard in the trial because they didn't really care if they won. They just didn't want a precedent set for allowing a 6th year for no reason.
This post was edited on 8/25/26 at 11:34 am
Posted by caliegeaux
Member since Aug 2004
13001 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 11:34 am to
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You're confusing opportunistic exploitation with morality.


any of us speaking on morality when we've all paid players illegally for decades, is laughable.

now there are some loopholes in place because yet again because the NCAA can't do anything right, or on a proper timeline, and you sit very high on your horse and speak of morals as a bama fan? dodge chargers. domestic violence. etc etc. don't need to point LSU's shortcomings....this is all about all of us being dirty as shite, and now people have morals when there are no actual rules being broken, because the NCAA can't enforce shite.
This post was edited on 8/25/26 at 11:35 am
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79873 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 11:38 am to
No, Real Doctors keep records. they’re important for treating patients.

Posted by NussBusDriver
Mississippi
Member since Sep 2024
241 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 11:42 am to
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The reason the courts ruled in favor of Chambliss is that, even if you don't "believe him", his attorney provided more than adequate documentation and satisfied every requirement necessary for a medical redshirt and the NCAA ruled against him anyways.

Tom Mars keeps dunking on the NCAA because they make it easy.


Tom Mars is saying these recent TROs will hold too but that's not the point.

The point is according to the NCAA Trinidad is ineligible. The court ruling is the only reason he can play. According to the NCAA Wright is ineligible. The court ruling is the only reason he can play. They are the same and no type of mental gymnastics to say one should be eligible and one shouldn't be makes any sense. Either they are all eligible or they aren't. You can't pick and choose what TROs are "fair".

Edited to say that I have no problem with them all being ruled ineligible.
This post was edited on 8/25/26 at 11:43 am
Posted by paperwasp
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Member since Sep 2014
31101 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 11:44 am to
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.this is all about all of us being dirty as shite, and now people have morals

We've all been giving $100 handshakes to the high school kid at the grocery store and stealing the occasional case of beer off the loading dock out back.

You're getting private equity involved to buy the store, replace the employees with Russian mobsters, and burn the building to the ground so that no one can ever enjoy shopping there again.
Posted by caliegeaux
Member since Aug 2004
13001 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 11:45 am to
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We've all been giving $100 handshakes to the high school kid at the grocery store and stealing the occasional case of beer off the loading dock out back.

You're getting private equity involved to buy the store, replace the employees with Russian mobsters, and burn the building to the ground so that no one can ever enjoy shopping there again.


oh, well that makes it all legit. carry on.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79873 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 11:45 am to
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Tell them they can come back for one more year but NIL is not an option for them just like it was when they were freshman. I wonder how many would come back?


what are their other options? They aren’t giving up roster spots or likely even practice squad spots.
Posted by Quicksilver
Poker Room
Member since Jan 2013
13330 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 11:47 am to
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what are their other options?


CFL, UFL,overseas.

Same options as other players who don't make an NFL team.
Posted by paperwasp
2x HRV 2025 Poster of the Year
Member since Sep 2014
31101 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 11:50 am to
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well that makes it all legit

I didn't say it's legit.

I, along with most of America, said one program is hurting college athletics. Possibly irrevocably.

And you guys are content selling your soul as long as Lane Kiffin and Will Wade beat Alabama.
Posted by SouthernInsanity
Shadows of Death Valley
Member since Nov 2012
27551 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 11:52 am to
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opportunistic exploitation


Translation.... making kids play college sports and making everyone rich, but the players and the fans.
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