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re: SEC Policy Allows Cole Hutson at Texas to be eligible?
Posted on 8/26/26 at 10:21 am to Nado Jenkins83
Posted on 8/26/26 at 10:21 am to Nado Jenkins83
I don't think he should be eligible either. But there are differences.
There is no such thing in the NFL as a tryout roster. In the off-season, the active roster has a maximum of 90. It stays at 90 until the cutdown date (Sunday, 8/30) when the teams must cut from 90 to the regular season number of 53. After the waiver period, teams also will be able to sign players to the practice squad.
Cole tried out with the Cowboys and Browns. This was just a tryout and he was not on any kind of tryout roster as that doesn't exist. He was offered a NFL player's contract by both teams, but did not sign either one. Therefore he was never on an active (at that time 90 players) roster because he did not sign a contract with a team.
According to the NCAA pro rule, he has not turned pro. I feel confident that it is the same with the SEC and BIg 10 "rules" released yesterday because they appear to be the same or quite similar to the NCAA rule.
There is no such thing in the NFL as a tryout roster. In the off-season, the active roster has a maximum of 90. It stays at 90 until the cutdown date (Sunday, 8/30) when the teams must cut from 90 to the regular season number of 53. After the waiver period, teams also will be able to sign players to the practice squad.
Cole tried out with the Cowboys and Browns. This was just a tryout and he was not on any kind of tryout roster as that doesn't exist. He was offered a NFL player's contract by both teams, but did not sign either one. Therefore he was never on an active (at that time 90 players) roster because he did not sign a contract with a team.
According to the NCAA pro rule, he has not turned pro. I feel confident that it is the same with the SEC and BIg 10 "rules" released yesterday because they appear to be the same or quite similar to the NCAA rule.
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Posted on 8/26/26 at 10:36 am to trussthetruzz
No, its different when it is t.u. Always has and always will.
Posted on 8/26/26 at 10:45 am to houstonearler
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According to the NCAA pro rule, he has not turned pro. I feel confident that it is the same with the SEC and BIg 10 "rules" released yesterday because they appear to be the same or quite similar to the NCAA rule.
You, like Greg Sankey and his team, are making up rules that have nothing to do with this case. This is about eligibility based on time and participation under the 5 to play 4 rule. That's the applicable rule as of last January and then it changed as of June. Decisions were made to pursue an NFL career based on the 5 for 4 rule and those decisions weren't impacted by the new 5 for 5 rule which excluded the class of 2022. Only when a judge granted them eligibility did those players have a chance to make a choice.
Nobody knows, not even the players themselves, how individuals in the class of 2022 would've acted if initially given the opportunity to remain in college. Treating them differently based on their successes and failures in pursuit of an NFL career is illogical. If they intend to use that policy in court, it's dumb. Cole Hutson would've signed a contract if the offer was good enough. The fact that he didn't is irrelevant and the SEC is stupid for suggesting he acted any differently from every other member of that class.
This post was edited on 8/26/26 at 10:58 am
Posted on 8/26/26 at 10:46 am to houstonearler
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According to the NCAA pro rule, he has not turned pro. I feel confident that it is the same with the SEC and BIg 10 "rules" released yesterday because they appear to be the same or quite similar to the NCAA rule.
The first bullet on the SEC rules release. "did not appropriately withdraw" from draft. If he would have he would not have been allowed to attend rookie mini camp. As the rule reads he's ineligible.
Posted on 8/26/26 at 10:51 am to houstonearler
I was just making a joke. But meals have cost people in the past
Posted on 8/26/26 at 11:23 am to Lsupimp
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It certainly is not in the interest of any 2022 players who were screwed
None of them were screwed.
Posted on 8/26/26 at 11:35 am to Boom33
I am ambivalent on Hutson. Will have zero issue or complaint if the SEC clarifies he is also not eligible. I do not think it is as egregious as the players who signed NFL deals and were rostered. He did neither. Under the SEC bylaws, the SEC has the power to exercise whatever discretion it wants. If a member does not like the rules, it is a voluntary organization and they can leave.
Personally, I would like to see all former pros be ineligible. That includes basketball players who were pros overseas or in the G league. If that means Hutson has to go because the SEC wants clear and very strict rules, so be it.
Personally, I would like to see all former pros be ineligible. That includes basketball players who were pros overseas or in the G league. If that means Hutson has to go because the SEC wants clear and very strict rules, so be it.
Posted on 8/26/26 at 12:13 pm to wdhalgren
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wdhalgren
This poster makes a lot is sense. SEC is making rules on the fly that should only apply to next season, not this season.
Posted on 8/26/26 at 12:26 pm to NussBusDriver
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It is the same. What he did goes against the rules the SEC just passed. Is there something that says breaking one rule is worse than breaking another I didn't see. He didn't withdraw his name from the draft. People keep saying he didn't "declare" because he was a senior but you have to put your name into consideration. That's declaring for the draft. That's how he got into a rookie mini camp.
agree to disagree then. Bottom line is that I don't think any of them should be eligible to play in CFB.
Posted on 8/26/26 at 12:30 pm to Victor R Franko
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Posters keep saying it's a one time thing. I believe what Cole Hutson is going through right now is going to become the norm unless addressed by the SEC. I noted this in a couple of threads yesterday. Players are going to be testing their NFL value after their 3rd year from high school graduation class and become eligible to play in the NFL. They'll go through combine and camps without contract and on an invite/trial basis. They'll purchase a simple injure insurance policy and see what they're worth to the league.
If no NFL interest, they return to school or portal.
It doesn't work that way, if they're an underclassman and declare for the draft, they're automatically ineligible to return.
If they're in their 5th year, they can't return anyway.
This only works because these specific players weren't underclassmen so they didn't declare for the draft, and were then given another year of eligibility. It's a one time loophole.
Posted on 8/26/26 at 12:31 pm to NussBusDriver
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The first bullet on the SEC rules release. "did not appropriately withdraw" from draft. If he would have he would not have been allowed to attend rookie mini camp. As the rule reads he's ineligible.
That's for underclassmen who declare for the draft, this player didn't do that.
Posted on 8/26/26 at 1:16 pm to NussBusDriver
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This is just flat out incorrect. He went to a NFL mini camp. To do that he would have had to "declare for draft" and "did not appropriately withdraw" from draft. If he would have properly withdrew he wouldn't have been allowed to go to an NFL rookie mini camp.
Dude, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you just didn't look into this, rather than you did but still don't understand it.
Seniors who've used up their college eligibility are automatically eligible for the NFL Draft. They don't need to formally declare or petition the league like underclassmen do.
Posted on 8/26/26 at 1:50 pm to Capn_Bevo
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Seniors who've used up their college eligibility are automatically eligible for the NFL Draft
Yes and if he would have withdrawn his name from considering he wouldn’t have been able to go to a rookie mini camp.
Are you saying this rule only applies to the junior who left school early and went undrafted and unsigned. Ineligible. But senior who goes undrafted and unsigned. Eligible. That would make zero sense.
Edit if you can be drafted by an NfL or invited to a minicamp you have “declared for the draft” whether you did it early or after your eligibility was up.
This post was edited on 8/26/26 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 8/26/26 at 2:28 pm to NussBusDriver
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Are you saying this rule only applies to the junior who left school early and went undrafted and unsigned. Ineligible. But senior who goes undrafted and unsigned. Eligible. That would make zero sense.
That's exactly what's happening.
One voluntarily entered the draft, one didn't.
Posted on 8/26/26 at 2:33 pm to SidewalkTiger
The rule doesn’t say anything about voluntary or involuntary.
Posted on 8/26/26 at 2:35 pm to NussBusDriver
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The rule doesn’t say anything about voluntary or involuntary.
That's what it means when it says "declared" for the draft.
A senior doesn't declare for the draft, they're automatically eligible for it as they've exhausted eligibility.
An underclassman has to declare, and give up further college eligibility.
Unless the SEC makes a further change, players like Hutson will be eligible.
Posted on 8/26/26 at 2:40 pm to SidewalkTiger
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The rule doesn’t say anything about voluntary or involuntary.
That's what it means when it says "declared" for the draft. A senior doesn't declare for the draft, they're automatically eligible for it as they've exhausted eligibility. An underclassman has to declare, and give up further college eligibility. Unless the SEC makes a further change, players like Hutson will be eligible.
Goddamn, I shouldn’t need a damn law degree to follow CFB.
This offseason has gone off the rails to a degree I would never have thought possible.
Posted on 8/26/26 at 5:17 pm to NussBusDriver
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Edit if you can be drafted by an NfL or invited to a minicamp you have “declared for the draft” whether you did it early or after your eligibility was up
Posted on 8/26/26 at 5:39 pm to ForeverGator
FWIW, Brave search says Cole Hutson did not declare for the NFL draft. He was accepted this as he completed 4 years of eligibility.
quote:Many lawyers are going to have some billable hours litigating this statement.
That's what it means when it says "declared" for the draft.
This post was edited on 8/26/26 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 8/26/26 at 5:57 pm to ForeverGator
I agree with this post. I don’t understanding what signing has anything to do with it. And you can sign in a league overseas but not the NbA or NFL? Why? Lots of questions
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