wdhalgren
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re: Highest Graded Transfer Quarterbacks This Offseason
Posted by wdhalgren on 2/10/26 at 3:53 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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I literally just posted a PFF X post to provide info to a sports board.
Information is a loose concept. Their list is interesting, but the predictive value is probably about the same as a series of coin flips.
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re: February 4th
Posted by wdhalgren on 2/9/26 at 2:43 pm to Violent Hip Swivel
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What does this even mean lol?
Apropos the subject of this thread, it means that voluntary crowdfunding for financing college football rosters has a limited lifespan.
re: February 4th
Posted by wdhalgren on 2/8/26 at 12:31 pm to Violent Hip Swivel
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Also, too much debt is bad and it's an issue, but Japan's debt has been 3 times larger than its GDP for the last 15 years, and they haven't crashed and burn. Warren Buffett has a lot of money tied up in the Japanese economy. People in America won't be eating pigeons and rats at any point because we have too much debt.
It's not worth debating anymore, and this is the wrong place to do it. I'll just say that you could not be more wrong about debt, including US debt. Debt is risk and that risk never goes away unless it's paid down in real terms. Monetary manipulations are a form of doubling down and transferring/transforming debt risk. Payment is coming due at a fast pace.
If you have a choice, I recommend the pigeon; it's not bad if properly prepared.
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you can't be the class of any decade without having won a national title in it.
And that's not talking shite either, just seems like it'd kind of be a prerequisite.
Not sure I'd agree with that. Back in those days, winning a championship was more arbitrary. A weak schedule was helpful and bowl tie-ins/selections had a big influence on the voting outcome. Passing the eye test was important, because in the end it was a beauty contest. Votes still matter, but not nearly as much.
re: February 4th
Posted by wdhalgren on 2/7/26 at 12:58 pm to Violent Hip Swivel
For economic reasons, I think voluntary crowdfunding has a limited lifespan. Without a gamechanging breakthrough in energy supply, our debt-sodden financial condition ends badly, and use of monetary policy to keep the country solvent is running out of road. Priorities will change.
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Are you sure?
Others might disagree.
"Others", including your coach, may be setting their sights too high. They should focus on beating teams like Vanderbilt and BYU. Even bugs have to crawl before they can fly.
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Next time I’m in Popeyes I’ll do that.
I'm skeptical that you will, even if they put a dollar in the tip jar. Not to worry, I could be wrong. About your objectivity I mean. In that case, your poor disposition on a UGA message board could definitely be due to a belly full of sour grapes. Unfortunately, there's no remedy in sight for that.
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Is this your first day interfacing with Georgia fans?
I've noticed a widespread correlation between fan disapproval of other teams' fans and the corresponding head to head win-loss record. It's so strong that I'm thinking there's very likely a direct cause and effect relationship.
I have great respect for your objectivity, sir, so clearly your contempt for Georgia fans couldn't be on the effect side of that equation. My advice for you would be to start praising and acknowledging Georgia fans as your superiors, which will cause your insect-themed sporting team to start beating them Dawgs more than three times in a quarter century.
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President Moorehead called for the SEC to create its own rules against tampering.
Doesn't seem like a useful plan. Teams from other conferences would ignore SEC rules. Even some SEC schools will openly ignore the rules, and dare the rest to do anything about it. We have precedent demonstrating that's a fact. Any attempt to go back toward "college football", with actual student athletes and some semblance of organization, will require tearing the conferences apart and letting the anarchists create their own separate NFL farm league. This version is too far gone.
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I don' see anyone complaining about that or hating on it?
It's everywhere There's a big internet presence, message boards, twitter, etc., claiming to be Georgia fans and insinuating or saying that Kirby Smart is leading this program astray. He's lost it, never had it, has fallen behind the times. Too loyal to his friends and his favorite players, won't spend money, can't manage his roster, makes bad game decisions, mis-evaluates talent, etc., etc. They say it repeatedly and with emphasis. It's absurd and flies in the face of facts. Some of it is propaganda, IMO. If money is at stake, there's propaganda; it's ubiquitous. The internet has far surpassed television as the instrument of choice. Peer to peer influence. That's how they do it.
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which underscores the point. In 2021:
-If our top 2 RBs needed a spell we'd just turn to our 3rd/4th string in James Cook/Kendall Milton.
-Our best WR Pickens was hurt and out most of the year. You can call Ladd 1B if you like. That's a lot for him..oh wait our next guys up are AD Mitchell adn Jermaine Burton.
-Brock is the best TE of all time so let's say he's getting triple covered. Guess we'll just go to Darnell Washington instead.
-JAlen Carter came off the bench if one of our other NFL starters needed a breather
-If Nakobe Dean or CHanning Tindall needed a break, we'll just bring in NFL stud quay walker
-Adam Anderson was an All American caliber guy we lost halfway and didn't miss a beat
-If something happened to Chris Smith or Lewis Cine we had Javon Bullard or Dan Jackson off the bench
-If Ringo or Kendrick was hurt, ok just plug in Kamari Lassiter instead
This quote above illustrates my earlier point. You're talking about one of the best seasons in UGA's 100 plus years of football, and it feels like that's become the expectation. Goal for the team, sure, but for any given year it's not a realistic fan expectation because the large majority of seasons won't end with a national championship. Lots of folks are acting like anything less is unacceptable for their enjoyment. We had one on this board start a dramatic farewell thread to that effect, after complaining/criticizing all season long. 12-2 and kicking his Alabama brothers' arse in the SECCG broke his heart, can't take it any more. Folks like that definitely should find more suitable pastimes.
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simply were not able to overcome it like we might have in a pre-portal world. That isn't some insult to the program to point out.
It's an insult to UGA players and coaches to harp on it, IMO, because 2025 was a great season for them, unequivocally. The people who try to qualify that success, by constantly pointing out that we've (occasionally) seen better, had faulty expectations.
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Which is why...Kirby is less effective
I still don't understand this reasoning. In what world is winning the SEC championship and 12 games, losing two games by a field goal apiece, less effective? Did people honestly start to believe at some point that it was reasonable to expect a national championship every two or three years? Is that what happened in 21 and 22; suddenly after 135 years of Georgia football, the expectations went straight to the moon? If so, those people were wrong, even without NIL and the transfer portal.
Does anybody remember UGA's last national championship before Kirby Smart; 40 years prior to 2021 and it was about as ugly as a championship season can get. Struggled all season long and the Sugar bowl was far from pretty. But now we fail to roll over somebody like a steamroller and it's a disappointment; lose one and the internet boo birds come out of the woodworks.
Here's what I think. If they can stay reasonable healthy, Georgia's defense looks locked and loaded for next year. They were showing it as the '25 season progressed, until too many injuries accumulated at the end. With some progress at the quarterback position, the offense should be able to hold up their part of deal very well. In other words, Georgia has a realistic shot to win it all next year, again.
That's not a step backwards or a decline in effectiveness, it's where they've been every season after 2016. If anything, Kirby's gotten more effective because he's winning without multi-billionaire boosters willing to buy players. But he was never going on a Saban style run of dominance, because UGA football doesn't have the latitude to operate like Alabama. Saban's continuous accumulation of talent was an outlier for just about any era of college football, with the possible exception of Bear Bryant's years, which is not a coincidence. Georgia won't be able to do that but, so far in the NIL era, Kirby still has Georgia right where they need and want to be.
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Raiola ended up at Oregon, so this kid hit the door.
Kirby should send Herbstreit a thank you note. Raiola would've never stayed at Georgia. Thanks, in part, to Kirk's phone call encouraging him to flip, we may end up with a better outcome when it's all said and done.
I saw that Oregon's class of 2023 QB also committed elsewhere today.
re: Why are we losing so many secondary players?
Posted by wdhalgren on 1/17/26 at 1:41 pm to Peter Buck
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The last game vs Ole Miss we were down 2 starters or maybe 3 in the defensive backfield. I wonder if our depth there would have been better in Pre NIL days.
It would've been nice to have guys like AJ Harris, Chris Peal, Julio Humphrey still on roster. I think with enough time, Kirby can turn most of his DB recruits into a reliable contributor, if they can tolerate being coached and stay out of trouble.
re: 2026 Transfer Portal Thread (Bryson Beaver IN)
Posted by wdhalgren on 1/17/26 at 1:27 pm to claydawg09
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My point is a lot of our fanbase panics when we lose guys but that vast majority go to schools that are not in our league both SEC wise and championship caliber wise.
Every team's in the same boat, so no reason to panic. Georgia is being impacted more than some because Kirby emphasizes development, which takes time in the system.
That gets at maybe the main problem with the transfer portal, loss of development. Strategy depends on development. It feels like college football is being dumbed down to the point that athleticism far supercedes the mental aspects of the game. That's a shame because it's the most complex team sport ever devised IMO.
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This is literally above. Once again your Cheerio necklaces need you.
The exception proves the rule.
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I don’t know if you know the point of forums and message boards but the concept is opinion sharing. So maybe worry less about mine. And if it doesn’t align with yours, you need to be ok with that if you are going to brave the internet
Very good. You chose to sarcastically "correct" my suggestion that Georgia has talented weapons waiting in the wings. I wasn't even talking to you. In response, I explained how you were very likely to be wrong. Isn't that what you want?
You can post your negative outlook every day; based on your history I expect nothing less. But if you feel the need to argue with anyone who says something positive, particularly me, I'll continue to point out that your persistent negativity in the face of success makes you look like a troll, for lack of a better word.
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Dude you’re an idiot. Your last two remaining brain cells are fighting for third place.
Uh Oh. Here comes school yard debating technique.
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If I am negative, I typically acknowledge it.
I'll acknowledge it for you. Not only are you negative, you can't tolerate anyone else being positive. You couldn't even bear the suggestion that Georgia's football team has talent waiting to manifest, and I wasn't even talking to you. Not only is that irrational, I would say it's a strange attitude for a Georgia fan, but that may be one assumption too far.
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I’m saying as compared to everyone, to be frank it is underwhelming.
Of course. You've been saying that about Georgia's roster and coaching for a long time, and you've been wrong. Georgia has underwhelmed their way to 66 victories vs 7 losses, 2 national championships and 3 SEC chamionships in the last 5 seasons. Your future predictions aside, that's the best resumé in the sport right now.
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What I’m saying is where do you rank our WR in a total list of WR in the conference? If you put them at the top, we are no longer arguing in rationale but fandom.
What I'm saying is that there's a difference between inexperience and lack of weapons. Last year's underlings become next year's weapons; that's how college football works, now more than ever. I put Georgia's receivers and tight ends in the same category as the rest of Georgia's football roster; talented enough to win lots of games, waiting and working for their chance to shine. You're doing just the opposite, suggesting they're insufficient and inferior to their peers elsewhere, unworthy of being collectively referred to as our future weapons because they didn't play ahead of talented upperclassmen. Don't worry, no reasonable observer will accuse you of being a fan, or rational either for that matter.
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My concern is how much development needs to happen amongst our talent this offseason for me to comfortably call them a “weapon“. Simmer down.
I don't care about your comfort. You jumped in and gave a sarcastic response, supported solely by your negative opinions, to a post I directed at someone else. How dare I assume UGA's football team has weapons? Not only are you persistently negative on this board, you reserve the right to "correct" anyone who sounds positive. And then tell them to simmer down, aka shut up, when they respond in kind. :lol: Sorry, that's not gonna happen.
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Libertarians by nature are no borders and free immigration. Not sure why you are surprised.
Libertarianism, like most other political labels, is a loosely organized school of thought. If they're honest, most people of any political persuasion understand the need for secure borders for their own property and, by extension, for their country. If they claim otherwise, they may be either a liar, an anarchist (used here to mean someone who literally wants disarray) or dumb.
re: 2026 Transfer Portal Thread (Bryson Beaver IN)
Posted by wdhalgren on 1/16/26 at 11:07 pm to Violent Hip Swivel
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Our leading returning wide receiver had 18 catches for 278 yards this season and our second returning wide receiver had 8 catches for 70 yards. Unless you think that Isiah Canion is Julio Jones, OP was making a valid point and there's reason not to be super optimistic. No need to be smartallicky.
I made a statement about Georgia using all of its weapons and he's the one that jumped in with a smart-alecky response. "What weapons do we have?"
If you and troll4Life haven't noticed, every team has high turnover. Every team has positions that end up reloading and rebuilding. In 2021, our top 4 receivers were 3 freshmen and a sophomore. Talented young players will be our weapons next year, same as every year at one position or another. Acting like Georgia football suddenly has no weapons isn't a valid point, it's trolling because that's what he does.
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OP was making a valid point and there's reason not to be super optimistic.
I'm looking forward to seeing some talented young players get coached up by Georgia's top notch coaching staff. Meanwhile you can spend this offseason like the last one: dumping all over Georgia's roster and coaching. Was 12-2 and an SEC title about what you had in mind? Two losses by a grand total of one touchdown?
How are you and your brother feeling about Heupel? Are you guys "super optimistic"? Campaigned hard to keep those Vandy/Kentucky cupcake "rivalries" and then gets run off the field at Neyland stadium. And loses to Illinois in some no-talent bowl game? Now that was an embarrassing season. But, it's Tennessee and it's the offseason so I'm sure you're excited about their weapons, eh?
But, yeah, go ahead and give us all the reasons Georgia fans shouldn't be optimistic for 2026. You and your buddies will get it right eventually, because stopped clocks always do.
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When you say use all of the weapons, what are those again?
Box is stacked. 3rd and 10. Season on the line. Gunner may or may not be concussed again. Who are you getting the ball to with confidence to convert that?
If I interpret this accurately, you seem to be implying that UGA doesn't have any offensive talent on the roster. I don't know how any rational person could believe that. There are rosters posted multiple places on the internet. Go study one and research the players.
re: 2026 Transfer Portal Thread (Bryson Beaver IN)
Posted by wdhalgren on 1/14/26 at 10:28 pm to Violent Hip Swivel
If you can spread the ball around, you can run a two minute drill. Obviously the 2025 offense wasn't very diverse. Some people here seem to think that was all Bobo knows how to do. That's dumb. I think he ran what they could execute. My guess is they'll spend the offseason trying to make it more flexible so they can use all their weapons.
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