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re: SEC football coach rankings
Posted on 6/16/26 at 3:58 pm to AUTiger789
Posted on 6/16/26 at 3:58 pm to AUTiger789
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We’ve got 3 new coaches that show a lot of promise. Call me crazy but I’d rather go with one of these in hopes they could be great over someone who’s been at their school 5+ years and never been close to championship caliber.
Heupel has been one game away from being in the SEC title game in both 2022 and 2024. If the 12-team playoff had existed these last 4 years, he would have gone 2 out of 4 years. Your trolls are getting weaker
Golesh never even won the AAC, won 10 games, or finished ranked
This post was edited on 6/16/26 at 4:00 pm
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Posted on 6/16/26 at 4:16 pm to VFL67
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Yes, and none were as successful at the Group of 5 as Heupel lol
Are you being serious? Heupel took over UCF program that finished #6 in the nation the year before he was hired. He then proceeded to run it into the ground going 12-1 his first season, 10-3 in year 2, and then 6-4 in year 3. He literally ran the program head first ibto the ground.
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Got fired with a way lower winning percentage than Heupel, and y'all would trade your nuts to have not done that lol
Gus is actually a perfect comparison for Heupel only Heupel has far less success.
*Both came out of the gate hot
Gus went 20-7 his first two seasons and Heupel went 18-8
*Both had very successful offenses early on but both saw their offenses sputter as time went on… people figured out Gus’ offense and Tennessee hasn’t been the same since Golesh left.
*Both slid into mediocrity beginning year 3.
*Both won most of the games they were supposed to win. Gus was 55-9 against unranked opponents (85.9%) and Heupel is 38-5 (88.4%).
*Both won enough big games to keep the fans excited but lost more big games than they won. Gus was 13-27 against ranked opponents (32.5%) while Heupel is 7-15 (31.8%).
The only real difference is Gus won actual hardware in an SEC Championship (played for two) while Heupel hasn’t sniffed that opportunity, and Gus was far better at winning some truly massive games… Gus was 4-13 against Final AP Top 5 opponents while Heupel is 1-6.
Very good comparison only Heupel is Gus Malzahn 2.0 without any of Gus’ biggest accomplishments.
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Auburn hired Heupel's old OC, who wasn't even as successful in the AAC as Heupel.
This is laughable. Heupel took a 13-0 UCF and turned them into a 6-4 team in three seasons. Golesh took over a USF team coming off a 1-11 season and turned them into a 9-3 team in three seasons. Absolute opposite trajectories.
Posted on 6/16/26 at 4:19 pm to theCAW
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imo from the g5 ranks moving up I thought Golesh and Chesney were the best hires.
I wanted Sumrall mainly because he was the big name in the offseason. I admittedly hadn’t dug into Golesh’ record. But once I digested the hire, i came around. Considering what Golesh inhereted (both as OC at TN and HC at USF) and what he did to turn them around, I’m extremely excited about Auburn’s hire.
Posted on 6/16/26 at 4:19 pm to VFL67
quote:he took over the program with the 2nd worst record in FBS (#129 out of 130) over the previous three seasons - only UMass had fewer wins from 2020-22
Golesh never even won the AAC, won 10 games, or finished ranked
Heupel took over a program that went 13-0 and finished in the top 5 in the final AP poll
see the difference?
Posted on 6/16/26 at 4:20 pm to VFL67
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Highest Ranked finish:
Sumrall at Tulane & Troy: 18
Heupel at UCF: 11
Looks like the voters disagree with you, both AP and Coaches
Are you saying your ultimate indicator of success is where a team finished in the AP or Coaches Polls?
Posted on 6/16/26 at 4:23 pm to AUTiger789
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He literally ran the program head first ibto the ground.
Holy retard blaming Heupel for having a step back season during Covid.
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Tennessee hasn’t been the same since Golesh left.
lol we just had the second best offense in the SEC last year idiot
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Both slid into mediocrity beginning year 3.
Heupel went 10-2 and went to the playoffs in Year 4 losing to the national champion
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Heupel took a 13-0 UCF and turned them into a 6-4 team in three seasons. Golesh took over a USF team coming off a 1-11 season and turned them into a 9-3 team in three seasons. Absolute opposite trajectories.
Your absolute double standard is showing. Heupel took over a program at Tennessee with 18 level 1 violations and 3 wins the prior year and in two years he won 11 games yet he gets no credit for that.
Taking a 3 win SEC team to 11 wins for the first time in 20 years in the most difficult conference is way harder than taking a 1 win team to 9 in the group of 5. You dont know ball. Hell, Billy Napier improved Louisiana by 7 games
This post was edited on 6/16/26 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 6/16/26 at 4:37 pm to VFL67
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Heupel has been one game away from being in the SEC title game in both 2022 and 2024.
Hang the banner!
The 2022 was by far Heupel’s best team (thanks in large part to Golesh as OC). That was by far his best.
But that 2024 team was mid. Yes they went 6-2 in SEC play but they lost to Arkansas (7-6)… their wins in SEC play were against teams that went 0-8, 1-7, 2-6, 3-5, 4-4 (OT), and 5-3 in SEC play…. That Tennessee team only played two opponents in the Final AP Top 15 and they lost by 14 and 25 points each time. 2024 Tennessee got one home win over the worst Bama team in 15+ years and otherwise just played a bunch of bad teams. They were exposed in the playoff.
Posted on 6/16/26 at 4:40 pm to SidewalkTiger
LSU fans like to ridicule Deboer for only winning 11 games last season.
Meanwhile LSU has won 11 games only once in the past 14 seasons and none this decade.
Meanwhile LSU has won 11 games only once in the past 14 seasons and none this decade.
Posted on 6/16/26 at 4:41 pm to AUTiger789
VFL67 is biased and incapable of understanding why everyone ranks folks like Elko ahead of Heupel.
Posted on 6/16/26 at 4:43 pm to captdalton
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Meanwhile LSU has won 11 games only once in the past 14 seasons and none this decade.
Probably why three coaches have been fired.
Posted on 6/16/26 at 4:44 pm to VFL67
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Holy retard blaming Heupel for having a step back season during Covid.
He stepped back all three seasons compared to the year before. LOL
Posted on 6/16/26 at 4:49 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Probably why three coaches have been fired.
Maybe the coach isn’t the biggest problem.
Posted on 6/16/26 at 4:52 pm to captdalton
Maybe not, I'm sure you'll keep us posted.
Posted on 6/16/26 at 4:52 pm to Boomer00
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Venables built one of the best defenses in CFB and won 10 games in the SEC while making the playoffs but drinkpiss and other coaches who can’t win 10 games are better?
Drink has a 10 win and 11 win season. Venables has two 10 either way better talent?????
Posted on 6/16/26 at 8:38 pm to VFL67
It was Drago all along!
Posted on 6/16/26 at 8:44 pm to theCAW
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BV should be higher than Drink
Golding may or may not be the long term answer for ole miss but he’s won two playoff games as a HC and should be higher than quite a few names ahead of him in the list
I wanted Drinkwitz gone but most people think he is still a better HC than half of the SEC. I do not agree with that. I have Mizzou going 6-6 or 5-7 this coming season. Decline is real!
This post was edited on 6/16/26 at 8:47 pm
Posted on 6/16/26 at 8:48 pm to tigersbh
Damn....we as a conference are struggling to find great coaches...remember when we had
Saban, Meyer, Miles, Spurrier, Gene Chiz, Richt, Petrino, Nutt etc in 2010.........was insane how good we had it as a conference.
Saban, Meyer, Miles, Spurrier, Gene Chiz, Richt, Petrino, Nutt etc in 2010.........was insane how good we had it as a conference.
This post was edited on 6/16/26 at 8:49 pm
Posted on 6/16/26 at 9:19 pm to Quicksilver
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I'll never understand why people rank Sark so highly. The average coach when gifted Sark's rosters would have had similar results, if not better.
Exactly
Posted on 6/16/26 at 10:40 pm to captdalton
Let’s rewind and talk about what rankings are. These aren’t “legacy” rankings but what is the ranking of coaches, best to worst, going into this season. If you think he’s that good, well, God bless, because you’re in for a world of disappointment.
But yes, tell me again about his run at Washington, which was with players that are playing in the league now. And when you talk about last year’s playoff performance, be sure to not overlook the arse kicking he took at the rose bowl.
Alabama has gotten soft. Not the scary team they were under Saban. Sell that stock.
But yes, tell me again about his run at Washington, which was with players that are playing in the league now. And when you talk about last year’s playoff performance, be sure to not overlook the arse kicking he took at the rose bowl.
Alabama has gotten soft. Not the scary team they were under Saban. Sell that stock.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 5:26 am to CelticTiger
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Ummm...see 2023 (11 wins) and 2024 (10 wins) and if you like you can add 12 wins at Appalachian State but I'm not hanging my hat on that one.
There is no objective criterion to support your assertion.
The dogshit OOC schedule Mizzou plays every year inflates his winning percentage. You actually played UMASS, on the road. I still can't get over that. He shits the bed against every ranked team you play. I hope you keep him forever.
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