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re: SEC football coach rankings

Posted on 6/16/26 at 11:16 am to
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
63300 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 11:16 am to
Finishing with three losses with the highest payroll football squad in history should definitely get you ranked second in the SEC I guess

Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
71732 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 11:26 am to
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Once again, Sidewalk Queer proves she knows nothing


You asked why Elko is ranked above Heupel, I told you.



People who rank head coaches don't care about your weird qualifiers. Elko has been better at A&M than Heupel has been at Tennessee.

Posted by VFL67
Member since Feb 2025
2301 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 11:31 am to
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Elko has been better at A&M than Heupel has been at Tennessee.


He literally hasnt dumbass. They both went 11-2 in Year 2 and neither has a playoff win. The difference is Heupel has more than a 2 year body of work and has had a better HC career so far.

If anything he has done worse if you compare their first 2 years in the SEC. Heupel finished ranked 6 and Elko finished 8

This post was edited on 6/16/26 at 11:33 am
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
71732 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 11:31 am to
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In 4 years as a P4 coach, Deboer has 2 playoff appearances. He has more playoff appearances and playoff wins than all but three SEC programs - Georgia (5), Oklahoma (5) and Texas (2).

If you consider just his two seasons at Alabama he has as many or more CFP appearances than 12 of 16 SEC football programs.

There are some aggressively stupid people here who wishcast entirely too much.


I think it's great that Alabama fans are satisfied with their BK. I'd have hated to see Alabama hire Cignetti or Willingham.

LSU hasn't been able to take advantage yet but a softer, less physical Bama is great for the rest of us.

Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
71732 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 11:35 am to
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He literally hasnt dumbass. They both went 11-2 in Year 2 and neither has a playoff win. The difference is Heupel has more than a 2 year body of work and has had a better HC career so far.

If anything he has done worse if you compare their first 2 years in the SEC. Heupel finished ranked 6 and Elko finished 8


It's clear you aren't able to grasp this concept.
Posted by VFL67
Member since Feb 2025
2301 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 11:37 am to
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don't care about your weird qualifiers


As you base every argument you have ever made on winning percentage until it doesnt support your argument. You are a joke
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
71732 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 11:41 am to
quote:

As you base every argument you have ever made on winning percentage until it doesnt support your argument. You are a joke


Let's take a gander at the Sporting News rankings:

quote:

11. Mike Elko, Texas A&M
16. Josh Heupel, Tennessee


Oh noooo, they have Elko listed above Heupel too....

Posted by AUTiger789
Birmingham, AL
Member since Apr 2022
4112 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 11:52 am to
WTF has Lane Kiffin ever actually accomplished??
Posted by GetPiggywithIt
At least we're not Missouri
Member since Dec 2022
4404 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 11:53 am to
quote:

WTF has Lane Kiffin ever actually accomplished??
Pissed off multiple fan bases.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
24486 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 12:04 pm to
He has made Jimmy Sexton millions.
Posted by AUTiger789
Birmingham, AL
Member since Apr 2022
4112 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 12:08 pm to
Let’s be real about Josh Heupel…

Is he better than Derek Dooley and Jeremy Pruitt? Sure.

But he’s not an elite coach. He’s 7-15 against ranked opponents (using final AP rankings). That’s not terrible but also not great. Most Big 6 schools eventually fire coaches who fail to hit 35% win% against ranked opponents.

The problem for Tennessee is that his numbers are getting worse. Since the 2023 season, Tennessee is just 2-9 against ranked opponents. That’s typically a fireable offense when you consider that’s been over the last three seasons. Amazing that he seems to still be far away from the hot seat with that type of record in big games.

Since 2023, Tennessee is 2-9 against Top 25 teams. They are 0-9 against Top 15 teams. And they have 3 losses against teams finishing unranked. This is not a record that warrants a rating in the top half of the league.
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
9480 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 12:10 pm to
quote:


Interesting that the guy in 9th place made the playoffs last year ahead of 7 others.


well be real. He didnt make the playoffs. He coached in the playoffs but Kiffin was HC for all the wins that got them there.

I dont disagree he should be higher but I think you're overselling golding a bit
Posted by VFL67
Member since Feb 2025
2301 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 12:14 pm to
Sidewalk Queer claims that Elko is higher on the list because his winning percentage at A&M is higher than Heupel's at Tennessee, and that despite every other metric, that's all that matters. Yet Clark Lea has a lower winning percentage than both Venables and Beamer, and is higher ranked. There is no reason Elko should be ranked higher than Heupel. Once again, Sidewalk Queer makes it obvious what a fuucking idiot she is.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
71732 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 12:14 pm to
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Amazing that he seems to still be far away from the hot seat with that type of record in big games.


That playoff appearance bought him some time.

Probably also helps that Tennessee was so bad for so long.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
71732 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 12:21 pm to
quote:

Sidewalk Queer claims that Elko is higher on the list because his winning percentage at A&M is higher than Heupel's at Tennessee, and that despite every other metric, that's all that matters. Yet Clark Lea has a lower winning percentage than both Venables and Beamer, and is higher ranked. There is no reason Elko should be ranked higher than Heupel. Once again, Sidewalk Queer makes it obvious what a fuucking idiot she is.


Oh look, CBS Sports also has Elko ranked higher.

quote:

14. Mike Elko, Texas A&M

19. Josh Heupel, Tennessee




VFL67 is in shambles.


Posted by VFL67
Member since Feb 2025
2301 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 12:22 pm to
quote:

But he’s not an elite coach.


No Tennessee fan thinks he is an elite coach. However, his metrics are better than more than half the coaches in the league. Sarks and Kiffin's numbers when you break them down like that are not impressive either. By his career and numbers, he is a top 5 coach in the league. He is not going to get fired unless he has a losing season this next year, which he has never had in 8 years of being a D1 HC, or he goes 7-5 for the next two straight years, which also seems unlikely given that he has done that 1 time ever. As long as he is stays a top 6 coach in the league at minimum, he will stay the coach. I don't understand the hate he gets from fans of teams who haven't had a coach with a better winning percentage than him since Terry Bowden
This post was edited on 6/16/26 at 12:26 pm
Posted by Landmass
Premium Member
Member since Jun 2013
25698 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 12:24 pm to
quote:

ahead of Sumrall and probably Beamer


I would definitely have him ahead of Beamer. As for Sumrall, the man has won a conference title multiple times as a head coach. Honestly, Sumrall should be much higher on this list.
Posted by theCAW
Polk County
Member since Dec 2023
9117 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 12:27 pm to
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As for Sumrall, the man has won a conference title multiple times as a head coach. Honestly, Sumrall should be much higher on this list.
I think I said to you in a different thread that you might be able to view the situation more objectively than me but I just have a hard time buying into someone that the UAA and Gary Condom is pumping so hard to the fan base right now
This post was edited on 6/16/26 at 12:28 pm
Posted by VFL67
Member since Feb 2025
2301 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 12:35 pm to
Since Heupel arrived at Tennessee, only 3 SEC programs have won more games than he has. He also did that taking over a program with 17 level 1 NCAA violations and 3 wins the prior year. Every SEC program besides Bama, UGA, Texas, and Ole Miss would rather have had our last 5 years than theirs
Posted by ManBearSharkReb
Member since Dec 2018
6551 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 1:04 pm to
Have they made the playoffs:
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Lmao Nope!
4. Yes
5. Yes
6. Yes
7. No
8. No
9. Yes
10. Yes
11. No
12. Yes
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