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re: SEC BASKETBALL AWARDS

Posted on 3/8/16 at 12:44 pm to
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 12:44 pm to
CAJ didn't deserve it after the final 2 weeks. Had a solid year, but the way we folded late meant he wouldn't get that type of award.
Posted by GatorsGators
Member since Oct 2012
13454 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 12:48 pm to
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You can't tell me with a straight face that Kennedy did a better coaching job relative to the talent level on the roster than Frank Martin did.
Talent + experience, I'd say about equal.

Kennedy's seat isn't even warm. Just let it go.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46499 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 12:54 pm to
Said it before. Wasn't wrong then, not wrong now

Yante Maten or JJ Frazier were worthy of a 2nd team mention
Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
17432 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 12:55 pm to
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SC was picked 7 and finished 3

A&M was picked 3 and finished 1

Yes really, it was close but you can't really debate that



As I said, SC was one game out of 6th place in the SEC.

A&M was the 4th highest ranked SEC team going into the season, and finished 1st.
This post was edited on 3/8/16 at 1:02 pm
Posted by finestfirst79
Vicksburg, Mississippi
Member since Nov 2012
11646 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 12:56 pm to
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... mostly I love it for all the heartburn the award causes our Debbie Downers.



that is to say:

quote:

You can't tell me with a straight face that Kennedy did a better coaching job relative to the talent level on the roster than Frank Martin did.



Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50432 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 12:57 pm to
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The fricking COACHES miiiiight know a bit more than you on the players in the league bruh...



Way to get overly defensive. He's a 5'9" guard. He has a low ceiling compared to bigger guys. From when I watched him play, I didn't see anything that screamed defensive player of the year. I would have thought Kornet or Kingsley would be better options.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50432 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 12:59 pm to
I'll jump in on this. I am far from a Kennedy fan, but based on what we were, where we were projected, and what actually happened then I say it is Kennedy's award. He took a team that most thought was a borderline NCAA team and turned it in to an SEC champ and looking at a 4-6 seed.
Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
17432 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 1:00 pm to
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looking at a 4-6 seed.


3-5 seed, if you ask me.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50432 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 1:01 pm to
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3-5 seed, if you ask me.


I was being conservative.

Bracket Matrix has us anywhere from a 3 to a 6 with an average of 4.53.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 1:06 pm to
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SC was one game out of 6th place in the SEC.


I mean if we want to get technical, we could say that A&M wouldn't of won the league with another loss. Can't really use that argument.

As I said before don't really have a problem with Kennedy getting it just thought Martin was more deserving.
Posted by GameCocky88
Mount Pleasant, SC
Member since Dec 2015
4837 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 1:18 pm to
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As I said, SC was one game out of 6th place in the SEC.

A&M was the 4th highest ranked SEC team going into the season, and finished 1st.


Yeah this is a bs arguement. CBS and SEC had aTm preseason as #3 meaning aTm outperformed by 2 games. Same people had SC as 7 and 9 meaning SC also outperformed by 2 games. The interesting statistic that no proKennedy poster has mentioned.... Frank beat Kennedy.... on the road.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145174 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 1:18 pm to
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The interesting statistic that no proKennedy poster has mentioned.... Frank beat Kennedy.... on the road.
frick. Who can forget the game that kept us from winning the league
Posted by DynastyDawg
Relf-Coast
Member since Jan 2013
10886 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 1:20 pm to
How Gavin Ware didn't at least make second team is beyond me.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50432 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 1:25 pm to
So we are giving about coaching awards by one head to head match up?

Billy Kennedy built a team with transfers, freshman, an international player, and 1 in house built SR then proceeded to win the SEC & Big 12.
Posted by Wallacewade04
Valhalla
Member since Dec 2011
2780 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 1:30 pm to
so happy for Retin

so sad we couldn't do more with his production
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
17193 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 1:31 pm to
No issues here. They got it right.
Posted by GnashRebel
Member since May 2015
8181 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 1:32 pm to
Only one that sticks out to me is Ulis as defensive player of the year. He is a good defender but I would have thought someone like Kornet who averaged 3 blocks a game would be a better choice.

Out of curiosity, does anyone know if they choose based on in conference performance or the entire season?
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
17193 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 1:49 pm to
I think it's the entire season but I'm not sure. That's a good question.
Posted by lsu711
Member since Sep 2003
13062 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 1:53 pm to
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Actually you would be misinterpreting it IMO


The best coach puts together the best team considering inherent limitations. Take this year as an example. Cal was handed the keys to the UK machine and went 13-5. Kennedy did the same thing with A&Ms brand and resources for basketball - and went 1-0 vs UK. Kennedy is more deserving that Cal.

Martin went 11-7 at SC with maybe a little less to work with as far as the things that are out of his control. The reason I take Kennedy over Martin is because Martin went 11-7 vs an extremely unbalanced schedule. SCs SEC opponents lost something like 20 more games than LSUs.

IMO, You are describing a Most Improved Coach award.
Posted by FishFearMe
United States
Member since Jul 2015
7196 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 3:42 pm to
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would of given it to Martin if it was me



How about we start giving out participation trophies also?

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