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re: Ryan Day is a Commie. Wants players to pool their NIL money so everyone can get paid.

Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:21 am to
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
9419 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:21 am to
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You don't know that. I can guarantee he has at least had a conversation about remembering the other players on the team that make him good.

He likely hasn't mandated to share, but common sense says a QB needs to pay their linemen


Cohen who we took from y'all signed an NIL deal before Bryce Young. Cohen hasn't started a game too like Young I believe. Everybody at Bama is getting a bag who either starts or is a key contributor.
Posted by Pickle_Weasel
Member since Mar 2016
3802 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:26 am to
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I'm not going to advocate sharing NIL money, but what happens when 3 out of 5 offensive lineman aren't offered any NIL deals. Is that going to create discension amongst the players.


Yes, as has been pointed out several times.

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Would you be okay with Bryce Young making a millions dollars while your working your arse off to block for him and the RB's and making zip?


Nope. Most likely the QB and RB will end up buying gifts for the OL, but there will still be resentment and jealously on the team. Another headache for the HC to deal with.

Another thing to consider is this:
Let's say Young (or any other player - just a hypothetical) that has all of this NIL money goes out and buys a $60k car (finances it). He's rolling in the money, cashing checks every week. Season starts, dude turns out to be a bust, and suddenly those sponsors are having buyers remorse. Kid does what college kids do, and gets busted coming back from a party and picks up a DUI or gets drunk and punches his gf. Sponsors get happy (since the kid was a bust) and because there was a morality clause in the NIL deal and they pull the deal at that point.

What happens then? Kid is in debt due to him going out and buying that car, he's blown through all of his money without setting aside money for taxes that he's gonna owe. Are schools gonna be forced to have to have some sort of money managers for these kids to prevent scenarios like that from happening?
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48894 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:28 am to
That doesn't change what I said
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
7208 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:29 am to
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You realize that all the sec schools pool their money together so they all get paid. You get an extra share of the bowl revenue you earned but thats it....


But we don’t pool together our stadium sponsorships and merchandise sales. Which is more what the NIL is about.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42130 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:29 am to
Dang, that QB that was seriously considering skipping his senior year and enrolling super early at OSU might want to rethink that idea.
This post was edited on 7/29/21 at 11:30 am
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
78912 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:31 am to
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I am pretty sure Day is asking the team to vote...


So #teamvote is now a good thing?
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35632 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:44 am to
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So is the SEC a commie organization?
No, it's a capitalistic one...just like every other business.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35632 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:48 am to
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But we don’t pool together our stadium sponsorships and merchandise sales. Which is more what the NIL is about.
But aren't those sales shared within the university? I'm asking, I don't know the answer.
Posted by Wildcat1996
Lexington, KY
Member since Jul 2020
5902 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:49 am to
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So is the SEC a commie organization?


More like OPEC or a drug cartel. We do things collectively that are more efficient and beneficial as a conference, but individually otherwise and compete like hell for the resources and market share.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20396 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:55 am to
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That won't be an issue at Bama and you know it. Every starter and key off the bench contributor will get money.


Lol, you guys pound your chest all you want now but its going to be great watching you complain when you are outbid because its going to happen.

Furthermore, lets not act like EVERY starter is getting good money. $20,000 maybe. Its not like they are going to be buying a new Gwagon and momma a new house like the QB can. BIG difference.
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
9419 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:57 am to
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Lol, you guys pound your chest all you want now but its going to be great watching you complain when you are outbid because its going to happen.

Furthermore, lets not act like EVERY starter is getting good money. $20,000 maybe. Its not like they are going to be buying a new Gwagon and momma a new house like the QB can. BIG difference.


In the NFL QBs are paid the most of all position groups as well. So, I really think you and others are simply HOPING NIL derails the Bama train. But, it won't and you know it.
Posted by Toroballistic
Tallahassee
Member since Dec 2017
1899 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:57 am to
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There’s no free market competition angle for someone who wants to just start a team, it’s literally impossible.


USFL, XFL and WFL all disagree with your statement. Now if you want to start an NFL team you will need the NFL's permission, but if you have the money you can start a football league. So it is literally possible.
Posted by paperwasp
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Member since Sep 2014
22999 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:59 am to
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Dang, that QB that was seriously considering skipping his senior year and enrolling super early at OSU might want to rethink that idea.

No doubt!

Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30019 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 12:05 pm to
Leagues pool money/restrict spending because the competition is the product that is being sold. The Dallas Cowboys and New York Yankees aren't worth very much without viable opponents to play. So it's in their best interest to limit their own revenues/payroll to ensure the New Orleans Saints or Tampa Bay Rays have a fighting chance.

For individual college players, their name is literally the product. The Ohio State QB gives no shits if the 3rd string OLB is getting NIL money. Apples to oranges.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37592 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 12:05 pm to
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Almost every American sports league is somewhat communist in nature if you think about it.

There’s no free market competition angle for someone who wants to just start a team, it’s literally impossible.




It sort of has to be that way to maintain some competitiveness. Its why the pro leagues have anti-trust exemptions.
Posted by wareaglepete
Lumon Industries
Member since Dec 2012
10935 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 12:15 pm to
This whole NIL thing is very interesting. All I have heard for years is bitching and crying from college players about being paid because it is them that drive the revenues that these colleges are bringing in.
Well, with NIL, we get to really see that in action, but the sad truth for a lot of players is that they really don't have any part in driving that revenue and will get nothing. Sucks for you. Lessons learned. Suck it up, play hard and get in the NFL and study and be ready for a career.
Posted by AustinLiberal
Austin TX
Member since Jul 2021
99 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 12:17 pm to
Not to mention Title IX policies where football foots the bill for the non-revenue sports
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 12:21 pm to
That isnt what he said though. He said he wanted teams to be able to help coordinate and generate such a pool in some way while individuals can still generate solo deals
This post was edited on 7/29/21 at 12:23 pm
Posted by tgrmeat
Member since Sep 2020
4322 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 12:26 pm to
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This is getting to be like MLB without a salary cap.


Technically MLB doesn't have a salary cap either.
Posted by wareaglepete
Lumon Industries
Member since Dec 2012
10935 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 12:29 pm to
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He said he wanted teams to be able to help coordinate and generate such a pool in some way while individuals can still generate solo deals


How does that work?

Ok, bucknuts players, we goin put all the money in a pool and you split it. Oh, except for stud nut QB, he gets to keep all his.

I bet that would go over real well.
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