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re: Questions for the anti OU guys

Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:25 pm to
Posted by Jake81
Member since Jul 2021
238 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:25 pm to
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you aren't SEC ready.... doubt you will win an SEC championship in the next 15 years. you will take the arse whippings as well.


no one drinks the SEC Kool-Aid like the aggies, who haven't won anything themselves at all

If OU comes in and completes for SEC championships you precious mirage will vanish



Posted by Kline777
Atlanta GA
Member since Dec 2018
469 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:26 pm to
No one is saying that OU is Kansas. What you don't realize is that their are at least 6 or 7 teams in the SEC presently who would win the Big 12 every single year if they played your Big 12 schedule. You just really don't have a clue what the SEC grind is and how crappy the teams are that you are accustomed to plaing every year in the Big 12.

If you played Alabama, LSU, A&M, Georgia or Florida 10 times there is no way you would win 5 of those. I am not even sure that you could get 5 out of 10 wins against Arkansas, Auburn, Kentucky or Ole Miss. The only teams that you should be able to best right now would be Miss St., Vanderbilt, Missouri, South Carolina and Tennessee.
Posted by ChapelHillSooner
Chapel Hill
Member since Dec 2020
593 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:27 pm to
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The thing about OU that we can hate on, is every time it comes down to the CFP, you lose to an SEC school. Every time you won a bowl game vs an SEC opponent, it was a disappointed team that was on the border and didn’t make the playoff.


Look at it from our perspective. Every time we steamroll an Alabama(45-31), Auburn (35-19), or Florida (55-20) it gets completely dismissed by people like you. They didn't want to be there. They were disappointed in not making the playoffs. Blah, blah, blah.

Why the heck do we play the game if we aren't going to be given any credit for winning it? It's infuriating.

Honestly the way you guys dismiss us every time we win is really below what I would expect out of winning programs.

And, again, I will point out our losses were exclusively to SEC champions. Ain't no SEC school going to look good if they are only judged for how they do against the champion. Other than the LSU game those games have been more competitive than the games we won against the others.
Posted by Kline777
Atlanta GA
Member since Dec 2018
469 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:28 pm to
If?
Posted by Kline777
Atlanta GA
Member since Dec 2018
469 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:29 pm to
The point is that you don't win. What is your record in the playoff era in play off games?

That is the point!
Posted by TexasForever
Member since Jul 2021
2949 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:30 pm to
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No one is saying that OU is Kansas. What you don't realize is that their are at least 6 or 7 teams in the SEC presently who would win the Big 12 every single year if they played your Big 12 schedule. You just really don't have a clue what the SEC grind is and how crappy the teams are that you are accustomed to plaing every year in the Big 12.

If you played Alabama, LSU, A&M, Georgia or Florida 10 times there is no way you would win 5 of those. I am not even sure that you could get 5 out of 10 wins against Arkansas, Auburn, Kentucky or Ole Miss. The only teams that you should be able to best right now would be Miss St., Vanderbilt, Missouri, South Carolina and Tennessee.


Posted by starkvingrad
Florida
Member since Apr 2021
5837 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:30 pm to
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Ain't no Kansases here.


Vanderbilt
Posted by Jake81
Member since Jul 2021
238 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:30 pm to
Nothing is guaranteed

Maybe you will right about the SEC-SEC-SEC and OU will go 0-9 every year

Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:31 pm to
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Look at it from our perspective. Every time we steamroll an Alabama(45-31), Auburn (35-19), or Florida (55-20) it gets completely dismissed by people like you. They didn't want to be there


Beating our 2013 team was impressive - even though of any team ever to "not care", it's probably the team who lost a shot at a 3 peat national title on the wildest play in college football history to their arch rival AND had to watch their rivals play for the title. That was the first game that group of guys had ever played (literally) with no national title aspersions. So, again, awesome win......but if any team ever was gonna be "not all there" mentally it was that one.

That Auburn team sucked. They lost like 5 games and had just been bitch slapped by us. I mean how much credit so you want for that?

Beating Florida the way you did was impressive - but come on, they didn't have ANY of their offensive weapons.

You guys are a great program but you want to be judged as an elite one and that happens by winning against elite teams, not 3-4 loss teams in non-playoff games.
This post was edited on 8/4/21 at 8:34 pm
Posted by TexasForever
Member since Jul 2021
2949 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:33 pm to
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Kline777


7 teams that would win the Big 12 every single year? Please name them
This post was edited on 8/4/21 at 8:34 pm
Posted by ksrph
Alabaster, AL
Member since Jan 2010
1168 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:34 pm to
Seriously, I think OU will be in the top 3 SEC teams from the start.
Posted by Jake81
Member since Jul 2021
238 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:34 pm to
SummerOfGeorge has a very reasonable perspective

it will be nice to have some big regular season games as an OU fan, we have had very few in 20 years.

OU might win some and lose some sure, but only a dumb aggie thinks 5-3 in the SEC-SEC-SEC is better than 9-1 in the BIG 12



This post was edited on 8/4/21 at 8:40 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:35 pm to
I love Oklahoma in the SEC. You guys will fit like a glove - culturally and football wise. And you will show up and immediately be a consistent top 3-4 team who competes for league titles.
This post was edited on 8/4/21 at 8:36 pm
Posted by GerryDiNardo
Bringing Back The Magic!
Member since Mar 2004
5562 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:38 pm to
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Im sure OU and Riley will be petrified



You should be. The 3rd largest stadium in the Big XII would rank tied for 12th in the SEC in 2021.
This post was edited on 8/4/21 at 11:15 pm
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
8153 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:38 pm to
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You didn't get those rankings while playing in the SEC. You've all cried for years that the rankings are biased towards the SEC. You're about to find out you've been full of shite.


A&M = 79.99 Sagarin Rating last 3 years Big 12
A&M = 86.66 Sagarin Rating first 3 years SEC

Missouri = 80.57 SagRating last 3 years Big 12
Missouri = 84.22 SagRating first 3 years SEC

A&M = 7.33 Wins last 3 years Big 12
A&M = 9.33 Wins first 3 years SEC

Missouri = 8.67 Wins last 3 years Big 12
Missouri = 9.33 Wins first 3 years SEC
Posted by ChapelHillSooner
Chapel Hill
Member since Dec 2020
593 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:40 pm to
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Oklahoma is like 6-5 vs the SEC in the last 20 years.



7-5

Four of those five losses were against SEC champs. The other was essentially against a Big 12 team in their first year in the SEC.

Of those games against SEC champs:

LSU - Lost by 7 and had the ball first and goal in position to tie the game.
Florida - Game tied in 7 minutes remaining
Georgia - What was it, 3 overtimes?

Anyone outside of Alabama, what has your record been against SEC champs?

We've beaten Alabama more times in that stretch than the majority of teams in your conference despite only playing them 4 times total.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:43 pm to
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We've beaten Alabama more times in that stretch than the majority of teams in your conference despite only playing them 4 times total.


2 of your 3 Alabama wins were teams that went a combined 14-12. Plenty of SEC teams beat those 2.
This post was edited on 8/4/21 at 8:44 pm
Posted by viceman
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2016
30688 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:43 pm to
quote:

SummerOfGeorge has a very reasonable perspective


Wait until the season starts, that is when George really shines as a poster.
Posted by ScoggDog
SE Indiana
Member since Aug 2020
3623 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:44 pm to
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Look at it from our perspective. Every time we steamroll an Alabama(45-31), Auburn (35-19), or Florida (55-20) it gets completely dismissed by people like you. They didn't want to be there. They were disappointed in not making the playoffs. Blah, blah, blah.



Not dismissing that in the slightest. Oklahoma is going to compete.


The problem is going to be, and where the adjustment is going to have to happen, that you don't get a few down weeks to get ready for Georgia. You roll into Starkville - and get banged on by them. Then, you play at home against Arkansas - and get banged on by them. THEN you go to Georgia. Then, if he scheduling Gods hate you - try to put yourselves all back together before you head to Baton Rouge or Tuscaloosa. Then you get to recoup from that with a trip to Knoxville or Lexington. And you'll win either of those games - but it still hurts.

Then you go to Gainesville. The SEC is a friggin' grind, man. Look - Oklahoma is well coached and well staffed. But this league takes a system. You have to have a hammer - not a knife - just to get through it.

Oklahoma will get there. They'll adapt. But it's going to be a shock at first.
Posted by Jake81
Member since Jul 2021
238 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:44 pm to
8-6 against SEC (5 of those games against SEC champ)

most SEC teams dont play the champ 5 times out of 14, OU record vs SEC-SEC-SEC is partly due to post selection bias

25-9 if you count the games against Missouri and aggies in the Big 12


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