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re: NCAA is going to have to bring back the sit out a year transfer rule
Posted on 12/6/22 at 5:42 pm to Psycho Ray
Posted on 12/6/22 at 5:42 pm to Psycho Ray
NCAA is toast
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Posted on 12/6/22 at 6:00 pm to RelentlessTide
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No student athletes is in a binding contract - that’s called the NFL. If that’s what you want, it’s already available on Sundays
Well, it's not what I want. That's kind of the point.
If you want paid players, that is also available on Sunday. Of course, that comes with limits and many other rules required for competitive reasons to create a product that is viable on the free market.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 6:04 pm to Psycho Ray
I think a good idea for the transfer issue would be this: whatever school you sign with out of high school you HAVE to be at that school for 2 years. After that, you can transfer 1 time w/ no penalty and then it’s a 1 year waiting period at your 3rd school. Most kids, in this situation, probably didn’t play their freshmen year and so you would still have an extra year in order to sit the 4th year and play the 5th year at the 3rd school. There HAS to be some way to reward your initial school with at least 2 years of your services.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 6:09 pm to Psycho Ray
Sign them to multi year contracts.
Rip off the band aid. Pretending we can put this all back in the box is laughably naive.
I don't fault the players if they want to treat this as a business/profession. The Universities need to follow suit.
Rip off the band aid. Pretending we can put this all back in the box is laughably naive.
I don't fault the players if they want to treat this as a business/profession. The Universities need to follow suit.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 6:13 pm to Landmass
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The players used to be locked in and that was wrong. What is also wrong is how the pendulum swung so far to the opposite extreme, where players can disrupt the whole thing by chasing money. We need it to settle in a reasonable middle ground that is beneficial to both the teams and the players.
They are suppose to be students first. This train is off the tracks.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 6:18 pm to Psycho Ray
Only change I would make is freshman and sophomores can enter but have to sit a year. Juniors and seniors unlimited. That I think would help with high school ranks and prevent so many kids hitting portal with no place to go
Posted on 12/6/22 at 6:21 pm to RTRinTampa
quote:This coming from a Bama fan is so incredibly rich I think I just got diabetes.
They are suppose to be students first. This train is off the tracks.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 6:27 pm to labamafan
quote:If the concern is kids not having a place to go maybe the simplest solution is allowing a soft "test period" for a week or so. People who want to hit the portal can enter their names during that period. At the end of the week they can choose to stay in the portal for the live period or stick with their current team. Kinda like the NFL draft.
Only change I would make is freshman and sophomores can enter but have to sit a year. Juniors and seniors unlimited. That I think would help with high school ranks and prevent so many kids hitting portal with no place to go
Posted on 12/6/22 at 6:51 pm to Psycho Ray
Absolutely agree with the OP. It was fine how it was - you have to sit one year unless you’ve graduated.
This instant nonsense has led to a lack of team cohesion across the league - guys don’t stay together long enough to establish chemistry.
This instant nonsense has led to a lack of team cohesion across the league - guys don’t stay together long enough to establish chemistry.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:09 pm to BowlJackson
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Nah, I like seeing all you old snowflakes melting about young people having free will and the ability to capitalize on their worth
We liked college football because it wasn't like the NFL.
It's still not like the NFL...it's worse. The NFL has salary caps. And more structured trades/contracts.
College football is now worse.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:22 pm to Psycho Ray
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Also need to cap it at one transfer and that is it. You can leave again, but must do so as a walk on. They are going to have to put the brakes on this mess they have created.
No thanks.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 7:12 am to Landmass
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Dude. Almost every school now has an NIL collective because there aren't enough corporate sponsors interested enough to give every athlete a marketing deal. The NIL collectives are a stop-gap measure instituted by the schools.
The collectives are run by boosters.
Once it was apparent that the ncaa was not going to get involved in NIL (because it would be pointless. There are too many ways to reorganize the same thing legally), the collectives appear as a convenient way to "self police" NIL so the kids do not get taken advantage of by scheisters. University adjacent programming sponsors the collectives to steer support. I haven't seen any collective go as far as publishing "the official collective of ________ University" although that may be only a matter of time.
The collectives are not a stop gap to anything.
They will exist as long as the ncaa allows them to exist.
And if the ncaa tries to restrict collectives because of boosters, a few forms filed at the secretary of state and the reorganization is now legal in some other slight variation.
NIL does not require anything corporate to be a sponsor. The athlete owns his NIL. He can solicit to individuals, nonprofits, etc.. The only restriction is that the compensation cannot be from the university or athletic association.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 7:44 am to Psycho Ray
I have an idea. When you get your AA you can transfer freely just like when you get your bachelor’s degree. Other than that, you have to redshirt a year but not lose a year of eligibility.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 7:54 am to Dr RC
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I'm not sure why so many people don't realize this. Maybe it's b/c of the free year that the NCAA gave everyone for COVID? A lot of portal guys the last couple of years have been seniors looking to use their extra year of eligibility. Perhaps once everyone has exhausted their COVID expectation the portal will lower a bit?
Yeah Covid really messed things up. Guys have like 6 or 7 years of eligibility now. lol with the covid eligibility thing phasing out I think this will all calm down some. If a guy doesn’t have 6 years of eligibility I feel like he will be less willing to transfer? Could be wrong
Posted on 12/7/22 at 7:56 am to ALhunter
Typical millennial who thinks he/she/they has all the answers. The reality is you don’t know shite.
You should post less. But, here’s your trophy…
You should post less. But, here’s your trophy…
Posted on 12/7/22 at 8:02 am to Psycho Ray
The court will strike that down. Coaches can leave with no penalty players. Also players should be able to leave with no penalty. It’s a free market unless you want to NCAA to be like a communist country like China.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 8:18 am to BowlJackson
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Nah, I like seeing all you old snowflakes melting about young people having free will and the ability to capitalize on their worth
Will you still be gloating when it's August 2023 and only half the players in the portal now are on scholarship anywhere?
Posted on 12/7/22 at 8:22 am to Landmass
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Coaches are a bit upset that they put the transfer portal opening at the same time as the early signing period. I think the portal should simply open for a single 2 week span in the late spring or early summer. If you sign with a team, you should stay with the team through bowl season. They should also allow the high school players to finish recruitment before existing players are allowed to transfer.
I figured having them occur at the same time would make it easier for coaches to fill their list more neatly.
Recruiting from the portal and high school at the same time seems it would be easier to maintain your lists... committed, targets, etc.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 11:54 am to BowlJackson
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Do we not live in a capitalist country? Why shouldn't the NCAA operate like the rest of our society? You don't think it's wrong when businesses and rich people "disrupt the whole thing by chasing money"? Chasing money is the principle that this country's culture was built on. If you said "chasing the money" was wrong in regards to anyone other than college athletes, you would be labeled an evil commie Marxist who doesn't understand economics. But I guess it's cool to be an evil commie Marxist as long as you're using it to control the most physically able 18-21 yr old young men of our society, who just happen to be 90% black.
Oh, I get it, you're one of those kids who consistently votes against his own interests in the pursuit of some kind of ideological purity.
Moron.
Why are you so focused on the workers? Why don't you care about the product? Is it capitalism that makes you want to degrade the quality of the product for the good of the workers? Do you think just because the Walmart managers make 6 figures, the special needs greeters should too? Is that capitalism?
Posted on 12/7/22 at 11:56 am to Psycho Ray
I thought it was established that you get a one time free transfer and any after that you have to sit. Doesn’t seem like that’s being enforced
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