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re: NCAA is going to have to bring back the sit out a year transfer rule
Posted on 12/6/22 at 2:59 pm to ALhunter
Posted on 12/6/22 at 2:59 pm to ALhunter
quote:Boomer? All that means is we gangbanged your Mom and aunts in the backseat of a '55. It was free love back then.
Boomer?
Now, do you have anything to add on the subject?
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Posted on 12/6/22 at 3:00 pm to BowlJackson
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Nah, I like seeing all you old snowflakes melting about young people having free will and the ability to capitalize on their worth
Players should be able to transfer after every game !
That'll show those coaches, athletic directors, boosters and fans !
Posted on 12/6/22 at 3:03 pm to BowlJackson
quote:There has to be a stable system for that to happen.
Nah, I like seeing all you old snowflakes melting about young people having free will and the ability to capitalize on their worth
The current system is not viable. It is a house cards.
Example? Tennessee has a kid coming in with an $8 million NIL deal. Before ever taking a snap in a college football game.
That is ridiculous. It is beyond ridiculous. It is insane.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 3:07 pm to Landmass
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What is also wrong is how the pendulum swung so far to the opposite extreme, where players can disrupt the whole thing by chasing money.
Do we not live in a capitalist country? Why shouldn't the NCAA operate like the rest of our society? You don't think it's wrong when businesses and rich people "disrupt the whole thing by chasing money"? Chasing money is the principle that this country's culture was built on. If you said "chasing the money" was wrong in regards to anyone other than college athletes, you would be labeled an evil commie Marxist who doesn't understand economics. But I guess it's cool to be an evil commie Marxist as long as you're using it to control the most physically able 18-21 yr old young men of our society, who just happen to be 90% black.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 3:09 pm to BowlJackson
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Nah, I like seeing all you old snowflakes melting about young people having free will and the ability to capitalize on their worth
And just like BLM doesn't give a shite about black people killing black people(or people at all really), you don't give a shite about all the ones who get screwed over and just lose their scholarships because they find out they didn't have the worth they thought they did.
You sure as hell don't care about the ones with attitude problems who would be better served having to confront their issues, rather than run to another program where the same issues once again manifest themselves.
What's most important is that the less than 1% of the players who might have actual value gets theirs. frick the other 99%.
You have brain damage.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 3:10 pm to Psycho Ray
quote:Jesus boomers are out of touch
Boomer? All that means is we gangbanged your Mom and aunts in the backseat of a '55. It was free love back then.
Now, do you have anything to add on the subject?
. Imagine bragging about gangbangs... how haram. I'll pray for you. Yes of course I do - once a boomer starts complaining that something is "a mess" or "complicated", it's time for them to pipe down and let those of us that can handle complicated things continue with progress.
Imagine allowing young people to *GASP* exercise free will and *GOODNESS* make money.
This post was edited on 12/6/22 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 12/6/22 at 3:14 pm to 3down10
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You have brain damage.
Bruh, you saw a post about young people having free will, and immediately turn into a tirade about BLM. Maybe turn off fox news for a night and see if any of that seething anger inside you that the right loves to stir up can calm a little?
Posted on 12/6/22 at 3:15 pm to Psycho Ray
I think you meant to say: The NCAA needs to allow schools and players to enter into binding contracts that allow schools to secure the services of a player for a specified length of time in exchange for consideration. Schools and players can negotiate between each other the length of the contract and the consideration therefore.
I bet players would give up the right to freely transfer in exchange for a guaranteed 4 year scholarship plus, in some cases, money.
But if the NCAA still only requires 1 year, renewable scholarships, players should be allowed to reconsider their options every year too.
I bet players would give up the right to freely transfer in exchange for a guaranteed 4 year scholarship plus, in some cases, money.
But if the NCAA still only requires 1 year, renewable scholarships, players should be allowed to reconsider their options every year too.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 3:17 pm to BowlJackson
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But I guess it's cool to be an evil commie Marxist as long as you're using it to control the most physically able 18-21 yr old young men of our society, who just happen to be 90% black.
No one is saying end it. You have to have a stable structure. Without some sort of order and stability it simply is not feasible.
You want to throw out race? Do you know what you get when your system is destabilized and has no structure? Somalia. A wide open chaos ruled by warlorads (big donors).
Don't worry. When the strong have no use for those young men due to injury, illness, attitude, or just bad grades. I am sure they will continue to care for and nurture them.
No one is looking out for the player right now. A lot of these kids have schools, parents, agents, spiritual advisors, and so-called mentors all looking to cash in.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 3:17 pm to BowlJackson
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Do we not live in a capitalist country? Why shouldn't the NCAA operate like the rest of our society? You don't think it's wrong when businesses and rich people "disrupt the whole thing by chasing money"? Chasing money is the principle that this country's culture was built on. If you said "chasing the money" was wrong in regards to anyone other than college athletes, you would be labeled an evil commie Marxist who doesn't understand economics. But I guess it's cool to be an evil commie Marxist as long as you're using it to control the most physically able 18-21 yr old young men of our society, who just happen to be 90% black.
Chasing money is not what this country was founded on, nor is it what capitalism is about.
This country was founded on the principles of individual liberty and that the only legitimate function of the government was to protect those things, to provide a common defense against foreign enemies and to help ease trade and issues between states.
A free market is the only thing that allows for individual liberty.
What you seem to not understand is that private individuals are more than welcome to form organizations and such that you call Marxist.
What is the difference? Choice. Nobody forces these systems on anyone. The government is not involved. The reason these organizations are formed is because without them - there is no "product". You have to have rules in place to provide equal competitiveness among your members. It's not socialist, communist or any other words you want to use to prove you have no clue what the frick you are talking about, it's just people exercising their freedoms to come into an agreement.
If you don't like that agreement, then you are free to not participate. In the systems you mention, you are not free to choose otherwise. In fact, those entire systems like marxism, communism etc are completely based on forcing others to comply.
The only thing that can make this the things you said is...when the government comes in and forces people to act a certain way.
This post was edited on 12/6/22 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 12/6/22 at 3:18 pm to bigDgator
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They weren't locked in, they have been able to transfer for decades.
sure, but they weren't allowed to play immediately absent a valid hardship and/or earning a degree. Transferring, in general, isn't the problem. Adding NIL to the equation, coupled with unmitigated fee agency creates chaos. Like every other sports league in the world, the NCAA is going to have to create clear guidelines and structure for NIL to coexist with transfer rules. Thousands of kids entering the portal each year and teams bidding for their services with no regulation is not structure and isn't sustainable for the long-term health of collegiate athletics.
In theory, yes paying players needed to happen and revising transfer rules needed to happen, but they dove head first into both without, first, having a well=planned foundation for how it would all work. That's just bad business
Posted on 12/6/22 at 3:18 pm to Poker_hog
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Fine just do the same for coaches too.
most coaches have multi-million dollar buyouts as their penalty for leaving.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 3:19 pm to ALhunter
quote:You're too fricking stupid to be in the conversation. You couldn't manage a self-service car wash, much less something as complicated as the topic.
Yes of course I do - once a boomer starts complaining that something is "a mess" or "complicated", it's time for them to pipe down and let those of us that can handle complicated things continue with progress.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 3:19 pm to BowlJackson
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I like seeing all you old snowflakes melting about young people having free will and the ability to capitalize on their worth
What an intellectually dishonest and short-sighted statement that is
Posted on 12/6/22 at 3:21 pm to 3down10
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No, it wasn't too extreme.
Agreed. I wonder if all these people realize that if a professional athlete has a coach leave, isn't getting playing time, etc. they still have to stay on their team or they don't get paid. Or, if they get drafted by a team and don't want to sign...well, they can sit out a year and re-enter the draft the following year. These kids are about to get hit with a hard dose of reality if they thought college athletics were/are unfair.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 3:22 pm to BowlJackson
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Bruh, you saw a post about young people having free will, and immediately turn into a tirade about BLM. Maybe turn off fox news for a night and see if any of that seething anger inside you that the right loves to stir up can calm a little?
And of course you assume anyone who doesn't agree with you must be a republican. I'm not, I hate both parties. I remember what the frick Bush did.
You are the one constantly talking about race on these topics, so I think it's fitting. You did it here again in this thread as well saying black this and black that. You are transparent.
You care nothing about the 99% of student athletes. You only care and think all judgements should be based on the 1%.
As for their worth, it mostly comes from the teams they play for. As evidenced by the fact that not only does the NFL not want them, every single league that tries to form with the same exact players and no schools fails.
This post was edited on 12/6/22 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 12/6/22 at 3:23 pm to Psycho Ray
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If you have to ask. Maybe college football is a bit too complicated for you. It's creating total chaos in the system.
Is it? Or is it just making you as a fan unconmfortable? Not knowing what the team will look like next year is tough. It’s also tough on coaches, but they get paid to deal with it. It’s different that is for sure. Is it an issue? Will it make the sport better or worse? Don’t know yet, hasn’t been around long enough. It is different and people don’t usually like different.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 3:24 pm to bulletprooftiger
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I think you meant to say: The NCAA needs to allow schools and players to enter into binding contracts that allow schools to secure the services of a player for a specified length of time in exchange for consideration. Schools and players can negotiate between each other the length of the contract and the consideration therefore.
IMO that will be the ultimate solution. The NCAA will fight it tooth and nail, but the only way to truly mitigate the issues and address everyone's concerns is to make NCAA athletes employees, form a players union, and construct a CBA. The façade of them still being amateur athletes while collecting NIL money isn't going to last forever. It's about time to rip off the band-aid completely
This post was edited on 12/6/22 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 12/6/22 at 3:26 pm to Psycho Ray
quote:Actually great highly scalable businesses with a lot of potential for private equity roll ups. I've had some discussions with several contacts about them. Of course this would be messy and complicated.
You couldn't manage a self-service car wash
I think it's time for your afternoon nap.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 3:27 pm to Psycho Ray
The NCAA basically said "frick it deal with it yourselves." They've been sued too much for NIL and other shite to GAF anymore. I think they're content to let it be a shite show.
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