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re: Most legendary sec player ever?

Posted on 2/22/20 at 4:45 pm to
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
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Posted on 2/22/20 at 4:45 pm to
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I agreed in my mind at first, because ,for one,joe was only in the sec for 2 years and his first year at Lsu was above average, but not great.

Then the more I thought about it, my mind changed.
This past season was literally as close as a quarterback can be, without being perfect. His play was freaking unreal, dude seriously had streaks of whole games in a row without making the wrong read or throwing any uncatchable balls.

He was doing This against, by the time the season was over, a rediculous number of the best teams . and there were great defenses on a lot of those teams.

The guy won every award that he qualified to be considered for.he
Then plays the two best games, by a qb ,ever played in the playoff era.

Either game would have been the best single playoff game ever. His two opportunities ended up being number 1 and 2 on cfp qb play. The Eye test and the stats proved that.

He Wins the Heisman trophy and has what's considered ,by most opinion the 2nd best Heisman speech ever,where he raises half a million dollars for his hometown food bank.

He Will go number 1 overall in the NFL draft,unless he's shown to have way worse of an arm strength issue then what we may have thought possible. Maybe there's a slim chance someone trades up for tua but I believe he's qb1 on 90 %of pro teams board, so if they want tua they know they don't have to go past pick 2.

Anyway,
the Dudes worst game was against auburn. These were those, " worst game",stats .

32 of 42 ,321 yards, 1td 1 int.

Against the best competition, and best defensive teams ,he was great. To show that, I'm
Combining the great d of Florida,the great d of auburn, bama (I know I know, but the secondary was legit),the number 1 sec and maybe even top 5 in the country , at the time, Georgia. And lastly ,the number 1 overall,in the whole country, defense of clemson.
The results of burrows numbers against just those 5 great teams and ds are below..

363yards is his per game average in those 5 games.
His Completion percentage in those 5 games is 74.4
Total passing tds in those 5 games against those great ds was 17tds against 1int.
That was against secondaries full of 1st rounders. Off the top of my head; Xavier McKinney,aj Terrel, the bama guy that chase abused, surtain. There are others.

Add the national championship and the games MVP.

Season totals in yards,tds,and completion percentage are all records of some kind,either sec or national records.
Finished season with 5671 yards passing, 76.3 completion percentage,60 tds and 6 ints.

Continued achievements this year; he Will have his high schools field named after him. This was decided before he played a snap in the national championship game.
I've heard people say that they can't find any story on any high school doing that, for anyone. This is before the guy even finished his college career in sports and in academics completely.

There's a proposal to name a street by Lsu campus after Joe.this proposal was put in shortly after the national championship game.

He Will be the only athlete or famous person/coach, that i know of, that will get a statue made of them, when they didn't even take anything but online classes at the school.
He was a grad transfer,on the team for 2 years and will, for sure ,require a statue .
ive also heard that,that was already being discussed, but I don't know shite, so don't listen to me. Lol.

Yeah, I think the sec may have a hard time forgetting about the guy who had the perfect year and perfect year isn't a hyperbolic statement,like usual. Non Lsu fans that didn't watch every snap didntt really get the full effect.

We watched the guy go multiple games in a row where he wouldn't throw a single bad pass or make the wrong read ,it's just hard to explain how comfortable he made us with watching Lsu.



This is all good and great, but doesn't take away from the fact that one super year doesn't make you an SEC Legend outside of said player's fanbase. Same goes with Cam and Johnny Football...amazing seasons, but to think 40 years later people are going to equate Joe Burrow/Cam Newton/Johnny Manziel to Bo/Herschel/Manning/etc. is not accurate. They were fun for a season, they were not SEC folklore.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
29953 posts
Posted on 2/22/20 at 4:49 pm to
I'd agree with Tebow. Two time NC, Heisman, non-stop coverage. Plus, he stayed all 4 years.

Had as many signature moments as anyone who ever played the game:

Jump pass
FSU warpaint game in the rain
The Promise
NC game vs Oklahoma
2008 SECCG
Concussion game vs KY

He's been gone 10 years and he is still talked about on here as much as today's players.
Posted by Auburntiger
BTR area
Member since Mar 2005
13290 posts
Posted on 2/22/20 at 4:53 pm to
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Archie


Archie Who?
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 2/22/20 at 5:05 pm to
Football - Doug Atkins
Basketball - Pete Maravich
Baseball - Todd Helton
Posted by atomic31
Member since Aug 2018
1450 posts
Posted on 2/22/20 at 5:07 pm to
Herschel, Bo, Maravich
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
100,000 posts
Member since Jan 2007
49046 posts
Posted on 2/22/20 at 5:27 pm to
Shaq
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65559 posts
Posted on 2/22/20 at 5:31 pm to

Matt Jones. Torched defenses while high as as mo fo.
Posted by Floalareb
Member since Dec 2018
65 posts
Posted on 2/22/20 at 6:32 pm to
For legends it has to be Bo, Manning, Walker and Maravich in no particular order. The best college football player I ever saw in person was Manziel. Could take over a game and beat you in many different ways.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 2/22/20 at 7:13 pm to
What world record in track did Walker hold? I guess i missed that?
Posted by tiger81
Brentwood, TN.
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/22/20 at 7:26 pm to
Walker, Pistol.
Posted by cmayes56
Alabama
Member since Oct 2015
2842 posts
Posted on 2/22/20 at 7:27 pm to
Its Herschel..period..

The Aubs that attempt to make Bo his equal are blinded by their team loyalty.

I'm a Bama fan.. Old enough that I watched them both.

Bo was great.. Super athlete..

Herschel was the greatest player I've ever seen for 3 straight years.. Not a 1 season wonder.. He was awesome from his first carry till his last.

Had the Heisman voters not been anti underclassmen..Herschel would have won 3 straight Heisman trophies.

He led UGA to 3 straight SEC championships, a National Championship and left the field with the led for another that UGA lost on basically a hail-mary.

UGA was 6-5 the year b4 he got there, the were 7-4 the next season after he left..

They lost 3 games in 3 years with Herschel getting the ball on virtually ever play
This post was edited on 2/22/20 at 7:32 pm
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
32595 posts
Posted on 2/22/20 at 7:30 pm to
Pistol Pete
Joe Namath
Tim Tebow
Bo Jackson
Joe Burrow
Herschel Walker
Shaq
Archie Manning
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20272 posts
Posted on 2/22/20 at 8:19 pm to
There are a lot of SEC guys more legendary than Tebow

Burrow's legend is diminished by playing in that vanilla offense in 2018. Just imagine if he'd only played 2019, had come in (at LSU of all places) and raped the field and record books, in a one-and-done.
Posted by BossBailey345
Member since Nov 2019
2282 posts
Posted on 2/22/20 at 8:20 pm to
Hershel by far
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
32595 posts
Posted on 2/22/20 at 8:59 pm to
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There are a lot of SEC guys more legendary than Tebow
No they’re aren’t.

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Burrow's legend is diminished by playing in that vanilla offense in 2018. Just imagine if he'd only played 2019, had come in (at LSU of all places) and raped the field and record books, in a one-and-done.
He led LSU to a 10 win season and NY6 bowl win proving that he wasn’t a one year wonder.

Your train of thought makes no sense
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
36284 posts
Posted on 2/22/20 at 8:59 pm to
Shaq. No question
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 2/22/20 at 9:06 pm to
Pete is the only real competition to Bo. His numbers will never be matched, but Bo did it at the highest level in 2 sports and was competitive in a 3rd.
Posted by Skyler97
Member since Mar 2014
4482 posts
Posted on 2/22/20 at 9:10 pm to
LSU fans diminish Newton by saying he only played on year but want Joe Burrow to be called GOAT because of one good year
Posted by Wild Thang
YAW YAW Fooball Nation
Member since Jun 2009
44181 posts
Posted on 2/22/20 at 9:16 pm to
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Most legendary sec player ever?


If this is going to be no flame or troll question.....

Pistol Pete is the answer.
Posted by LSUNV
In the woods or on the water
Member since Feb 2011
22422 posts
Posted on 2/22/20 at 9:17 pm to
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LSU fans diminish Newton by saying he only played on year but want Joe Burrow to be called GOAT because of one good year



It’s not just LSU fans Chester
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