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re: Looks like FSU and Clemson also want in
Posted on 8/2/21 at 3:37 pm to transcend
Posted on 8/2/21 at 3:37 pm to transcend
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The SEC is concerned that streaming numbers for Clemson+Florida State don't bring what Oklahoma+Texas do.
Notre Dame is the only "free agent" left that would "add to the pot."
I agree. Geography is no longer an issue. Look at the distance between Texas and South Carolina, Oklahoma or Missouri and Florida.
Grab Notre Dame and Ohio State. Ohio State is deeply concerned with athletic success and would love to bury its rival in Michigan by fleeing to the much better and more successful SEC. Imagine an Ohio State-less Big Ten. It's basically a two-team contest between Wisconsin and Penn State.
It would be a very crappy conference while Ohio State left for greener pastures. ETA Just imagine the "blue blood" teams:
Alabama
Ohio State
Notre Dame
Florida
Georgia
Texas
LSU
Oklahoma
Tennessee
Auburn
It would be unreal.
This post was edited on 8/2/21 at 3:39 pm
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Posted on 8/2/21 at 3:48 pm to GentleJackJones
It'll make Saturdays much more fun. No more watching LSU vs Mcneese or clemson roll through the weak arse ACC. I don't know what people are so concerned about
Posted on 8/2/21 at 4:06 pm to GentleJackJones
Ohio state ain't leaving the big ten they are basically guaranteed a playoff spot every year.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 4:09 pm to sicboy
How would 18 teams possibly make sense?
Posted on 8/2/21 at 4:11 pm to Tiger79
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Ohio state ain't leaving the big ten they are basically guaranteed a playoff spot every year.
No, but the risk is on the recruiting angle. Elite kids will be a tougher sell playing in a vastly inferior league.
If Texas recruiting can take a hit (and it did when A&M joined), Ohio State will suffer the same fate if B1G doesn't adapt.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 4:14 pm to Paul Allen
I think this NIL stuff has a lot to do with the super conference. Once they kick the NCAA outh there will be rules governing this NIL stuff. I think that’s a huge part of it—the schools don’t like the wild Wild West side of this
Posted on 8/2/21 at 4:24 pm to sicboy
Might as well do away with conferences at that point.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 4:24 pm to Paul Allen
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Are these recent conference expansions and realignments along with NIL going to hurt or enhance the college football product?
If you want to watch pure college football where kids are still playing for the love of sports you better become an FCS and lower level fan.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 4:43 pm to JPLSU1981
ACC is locked into a TV deal with ESPN until the mid 2030s. don't know why ACC schools would agree to something like that but it means FSU and Clemson cannot leave.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 4:49 pm to sicboy
I don't believe it. Clemson is in a conference that they dominate and moving in the SEC they would suddenly become just another team in the SEC. FSU want's no part of the SEC. They can't win in the ACC, so imagine trying to win in the SEC! Dabo I'm sure wants no part of the SEC. He likes playing in a weak conference because it assures his team will be a part of the playoffs. Clemson could become irrelevant real fast if they join the SEC. The SEC is where the big dogs run and Clemson would only be a puppy if they joined.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 4:50 pm to Boodis Man
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CC is locked into a TV deal with ESPN until the mid 2030s. don't know why ACC schools would agree to something like that but it means FSU and Clemson cannot leave.
You realized they have been involved in every step of this right?
Posted on 8/2/21 at 4:51 pm to Sterling Archer
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It seems only after it’s too much.
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Even without OU and TX, no other conference could compare. I don't think this is a good idea. When is enough, enough?
It seems only after it’s too much.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 5:02 pm to sicboy
Time for the culling:
Go to a model of 48 teams in a breakaway playoff league. That’s 4 regional conferences of 12 teams a-piece. Each conference would have 2 divisions of 6 teams, play 8 conference games, have division champs meet in a conference championship game, have an optional cross-division rival, and an optional permanent OOC rival.
Pacific
West: USC, Stanford, Washington, UCLA, Oregon, Arizona St
East: Utah, Colorado, Oklahoma, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech
Great Lakes
West: Iowa, Minnesota, Mizzou, Kansas, Mizzou, and (one of Iowa St, Kansas St, and Okie St)
East: Wisconsin, Michigan, Michigan St, Ohio St, Indiana, Illinois
Atlantic
North: Notre Dame, Penn St, West Virginia, Boston College, Maryland, Syracuse
South: North Carolina, NC St, Virginia, Virginia Tech, South Carolina, Clemson
Gulf of Mexico
West: Arkansas, LSU, Ole Miss, Miss St, Alabama, Auburn
East: Tennessee, Kentucky, Georgia, Florida, Florida St, Miami
Go to a model of 48 teams in a breakaway playoff league. That’s 4 regional conferences of 12 teams a-piece. Each conference would have 2 divisions of 6 teams, play 8 conference games, have division champs meet in a conference championship game, have an optional cross-division rival, and an optional permanent OOC rival.
Pacific
West: USC, Stanford, Washington, UCLA, Oregon, Arizona St
East: Utah, Colorado, Oklahoma, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech
Great Lakes
West: Iowa, Minnesota, Mizzou, Kansas, Mizzou, and (one of Iowa St, Kansas St, and Okie St)
East: Wisconsin, Michigan, Michigan St, Ohio St, Indiana, Illinois
Atlantic
North: Notre Dame, Penn St, West Virginia, Boston College, Maryland, Syracuse
South: North Carolina, NC St, Virginia, Virginia Tech, South Carolina, Clemson
Gulf of Mexico
West: Arkansas, LSU, Ole Miss, Miss St, Alabama, Auburn
East: Tennessee, Kentucky, Georgia, Florida, Florida St, Miami
This post was edited on 8/2/21 at 5:03 pm
Posted on 8/2/21 at 5:06 pm to Keaux10
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No way any other power 5 could compare the the SEC
So what do you get for that? A road 10x harder to the championship? Less money per school?
I believe the major schools are positioning to start their own league away from the NCAA governance. That is not necessarily a bad thing. NIL has broken the system.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 5:07 pm to sicboy
If Greg Sankey makes this happen, when does it end? Does he rebrand the sec and create his own version of the ncaa. College athletics will either be revolutionary or implode
Posted on 8/2/21 at 5:16 pm to 777Tiger
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LSU used to play Centenary in fb, iirc, Centenary had a 'ship back in 1927,
I’d have to research the name, but years ago I had a relative tell me that the best running back he ever saw play for a LA college was a guy from Centenary.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 5:22 pm to sicboy
May as well add tOSU and WV too.
Rebrand to Super Elite Conference.
Rebrand to Super Elite Conference.
This post was edited on 8/2/21 at 5:23 pm
Posted on 8/2/21 at 5:47 pm to nitwit
They won the national championship in 2013 right? I know they fell off pretty quickly, and aren’t a very good team right now. But they have won a championship more recently than anyone else in the conference not named LSU or Alabama. It’s hard to use that argument against fla st while allowing Texas in. Who hasn’t been successful either. Fla st had a good rivalry going with Florida, there is some value in that.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 5:49 pm to sicboy
As some point we have to build a wall… right ?
Posted on 8/2/21 at 6:47 pm to Dizz
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I am not sure this helps playoff expansion. Who wants to see potentially 8 teams from the same conference play each other again. I know each conference team will not play one another each year but there will be a lot of rematches.
True, could easily play one team 3 times. Say the SEC west champ is LSU and has already played Florida and lost. Fl wins the east and LSU beats them in SEC championship. Obviously, Fl will make the college playoffs...game number 3.
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