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re: List of SEC Champions for this academic year 2020/2021

Posted on 5/18/21 at 2:26 am to
Posted by Ramsey Rocket
Sturgis, KY
Member since Jan 2014
533 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 2:26 am to
Kentucky actually has 3 National Championships this year. You didn’t include the sharp shooters. The real question here is should we be worried the Kentucky rifle team defeated Army?? Should BBN be defending the country??
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Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
7319 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:06 am to
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I think this is actually a problem for Stricklin


Stricklin didn't cause our Gymnastics team to be injured or our Volleyball and Tennis teams to choke.

His only big failing was not firing Mike White after the tourney. All I can possibly think is that he kicked the tires on some slam dunk hires and none were interested, so he hit pause for a year and White is toast after 2021.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72190 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:09 am to
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real danger of not finishing in the top 10 of the Directors Cup for the first time in its existence.


I thought it was still suspended for the 2020-21 academic year.
Posted by PCRammer
1725 Slough Avenue in Scranton, PA
Member since Jan 2014
1452 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:23 am to
Is equestrian the only SEC sport that isn't an official NCAA sport?
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 5/18/21 at 10:00 am to
Kentucky Rifle
Posted by XWing atAliciousness
Member since Jan 2018
8623 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 10:08 am to
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Across all sports this might be our best year.

I'll be pretty shocked if Arkansas wins the SEC tournament. Not because they'd be incapable. But if they win the regular season, the No. 1 overall seed is wrapped up (if it isn't already), and there's just no way DVH is throwing premier arms in that tournament
Posted by VivaZapata27
Natchez, Ms
Member since Apr 2013
3573 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 10:09 am to
Ole Miss has been pretty good at everything but volleyball this year. Just not championship level good at anything except women’s golf and maybe baseball.
This post was edited on 5/18/21 at 10:11 am
Posted by Murph4HOF
A-T-L-A-N-T-A (that's where I stay)
Member since Sep 2019
11136 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 10:10 am to
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LSU lady beach volleyball

Not an SEC sport, baw.

CCSA, and FSU won that.
This post was edited on 5/18/21 at 10:12 am
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 5/18/21 at 10:18 am to
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Is equestrian the only SEC sport that isn't an official NCAA sport?




Its an NCAA sport, just isnt an NCAA championship sport. They classify it as an emerging sport. It just hasnt grown to 40 teams to get full designation for championship
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 10:47 am to
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LSU (0)
Mississippi State (0)
Ole Miss (0)
Missouri (0)


The usual bottom 4.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27298 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 11:02 am to
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we hear is how amazing their athletic department is and how they have the best basketball coach and second best football coach in the SEC. CRAZY!


And let's not forget their continuous cock slurping of Woodward (AD)
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41321 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 11:23 am to
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I think this is actually a problem for Stricklin. May not matter at most schools, but UF is likely to lose the SEC All Sports trophy consecutively for the first time ever. In real danger of not finishing in the top 10 of the Directors Cup for the first time in its existence. While it shows the success of the program as you say, also highlights the expectations. Given the in-state talent, resources, academics and all the other intangibles the expectation is all around excellence. Despite what Stricklin has done on the facility front, already starting to hear the grumblings.


I'd like to know where you are hearing grumblings?

Sticklin was named AD of the Year last year by the Sports Business Journal. We lost the SEC all-sports title by the slimmest margin to A&M last year and are right in the hunt this year, even with Arkansas and Bama having breakout years.

The only sports we are currently underachieving in are the following:

Football - We finished #2 in the conference this year.

MBB - White has been an exemplar rep for the school and makes the tourney every year, so he gets a longer leash.

WBB - This sport is cursed at UF.

Golf - Not happy with the current sitch on both teams.

W. Tennis - Roland has 4 natties, he gets a long leash.

T&F - Holloway has 4 natties in the last 8 years, he will be fine.

Soccer - Burleigh just "retired" so he is fixing it.

What else?

What school not named Stanford would not chalk this up as a great year in all-around sports?

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Posted by topcat88
Member since Nov 2015
4079 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 11:37 am to
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know, right? All we hear is how amazing their athletic department is and how they have the best basketball coach and second best football coach in the SEC. CRAZY!



Covid year. **
Posted by bgator85
Sarasota
Member since Aug 2007
6022 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 2:12 pm to
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I'd like to know where you are hearing grumblings?

Sticklin was named AD of the Year last year by the Sports Business Journal. We lost the SEC all-sports title by the slimmest margin to A&M last year and are right in the hunt this year, even with Arkansas and Bama having breakout years.


Mostly amongst fans that follow all sports, a lot of frustration with the decline we've seen in a number of sports. I've heard there is some concern in the admin as well, but don't think he's on the hot seat at the moment or anything.

My biggest gripe with him at this point is how slow he is to react. The soccer program should have never been allowed to get this bad. He continues to stick with Cam for women's bball despite his absymal record which stands out even in our long history of mediocrity, and it certainly looks bad considering this is one of his few hires. Golf programs, women's tennis, men's basketball. Stricklin does some good things, his facility stuff is great and probably why he was named AD of the year. But he was also tasked with maintaining the standard, and the current state of the program is not meeting expectations.
This post was edited on 5/18/21 at 2:24 pm
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41321 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 2:31 pm to
Yes I addressed each of these above, and also throw in the last 14 months dealing with COVID, he may win another award this year. Let's not even bring up all the expansion going on at UF while our sister school out west is 26 mil in the red for the last fiscal year and the gold standard Stanford is cutting out some sports altogether.

You can grumble all you want, but some of these coaches have built up some tenure and you can't fire a third of them for a down year when you have won multiple national titles.

With so much instability in sports overall (I am talking about the transfers, opt outs and political climate now) you have to think long and hard about what you are doing in not just the short term, but also long term. Does it really matter if we finish 8th or 12th in WBB?
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25196 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 2:38 pm to
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I'll be pretty shocked if Arkansas wins the SEC tournament. Not because they'd be incapable. But if they win the regular season, the No. 1 overall seed is wrapped up (if it isn't already), and there's just no way DVH is throwing premier arms in that tournament




Honestly he will trot out everyone that isn't in the main rotation. DVH probably has never made a rolling stop in his life. He is that cautious in these situations. He will, as he has done every other year, roll his team out there kind of hoping to lose the first game so he can rest people.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41321 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 3:30 pm to
You guys can lose all 3 to UF this weekend, and go 2 and 'Que in Hoover and still be the #1 overall seed. Your body of work is way better then everyone else's.
Posted by tkeefer
TX
Member since Apr 2004
1121 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 3:48 pm to
Arkansas has no interest in winning the SEC Tournament. It is pointless unless you need it make NCAA Tournament.

Don't expect them to throw any top pitchers.

Same thing for the basketball tournament. It's just about money.
Posted by bgator85
Sarasota
Member since Aug 2007
6022 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 4:08 pm to
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You can grumble all you want, but some of these coaches have built up some tenure and you can't fire a third of them for a down year when you have won multiple national titles.


Sure, you're not going to fire Roland. But Burleigh should have been shown the door a while ago. You don't get to keep your job forever because you won a national title over 20 years ago. No excuse for allowing the program to sink where it did. And yes, you can make changes in WBB and men's golf because they are the right things to do. UF didn't build the program it did by accepting mediocre results, a lot of decent coaches were fired along the way in pursuit of something better.

Again, I don't think Stricklin is about to lose his job nor should he. But if (maybe when at this point) UF is out of the top 10 for the first time ever in the Directors Cup. When we drop the All Sports Trophy again, its going to raise eyebrows. That's the nature of the business. Stricklin took over a monster of an athletic program and its not performing at the same level.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41321 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 4:21 pm to
I will accept the raising of eyebrows at this point. I am not happy either, but I think we need to get the department back to making money before we start spending it. So we are in agreement there.

And I will defend Burleigh even though you are right, we waited too long, but she dominated the league. She started the program and did pretty well.

Along with her natty, she has 14 SEC Championships, Tenn is 2nd with 3. She also has 11 SEC tourney championships, Tenn is 2nd with 4. Hard to force a coach out at 50 years old with that resume.

But I agree overall it is not a trend you want to see continue. Maybe if Foley didn't let the facilities fall behind Stricklin could focus more on hiring and firing coaches?
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