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re: Justin Fields vs Joe Burrow
Posted on 11/21/19 at 10:55 am to Mithridates6
Posted on 11/21/19 at 10:55 am to Mithridates6
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All of those teams except Vandy are far better than the OSU opponents I mentioned, which are some of the worst in the entire country
I'd like to believe you have some credence there, but it is simply not true.... Sagarins and Steele have LSU in the top ten and OSU in the top 20 in SOS. Also the won-lost of the teams they played are almost identical. Anyway, there schedule is heads and tails above either Alabama or Clemson.
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Posted on 11/21/19 at 10:58 am to bayou prince
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I'd like to believe you have some credence there, but it is simply not true.... Sagarins and Steele have LSU in the top ten and OSU in the top 20 in SOS. Also the won-lost of the teams they played are almost identical. Anyway, there schedule is heads and tails above either Alabama or Clemson.
Well they're wrong. I ask again to find worse teams than Northwestern, Nebraska, Maryland and Rutgers in the P5. FAU, Miami(OH) and Cincinnati are respectable G5 teams. I wish LSU didn't schedule FCS teams, it probably tanks our rankings, same for other SEC teams
Posted on 11/21/19 at 11:00 am to GRTiger
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Joe has 28 more 4th quarter passes than Fields. They both have the same number of rushing attempts
I guess Fields would have thrown for 1500 yards and 7 TDs in those extra 4th quarter series.
I'll take your word on the # of attempts. At his regular clip, that's about ~270 yards and 4 TDs.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 11:05 am to Mithridates6
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Well they're wrong. I ask again to find worse teams than Northwestern, Nebraska, Maryland and Rutgers in the P5. FAU, Miami(OH) and Cincinnati are respectable G5 teams. I wish LSU didn't schedule FCS teams, it probably tanks our rankings, same for other SEC teams
Really, does all this nonsense matter. Yes, our schedule is better, but to tell you the truth I don't like to talk smack or belittle others of equal talent. It's foolish. I like to talk up a deserving opponent especially if we have to meet them, which we will. To tell you the truth Clemson and OSU really scare me, (Clemson in the last 2-3 weeks), regardless of who they have played.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 11:05 am to Mithridates6
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Fields has an advantage in rushing, but let's remember sacks are counted as rushes by the NCAA
Point is?
Posted on 11/21/19 at 11:07 am to Mithridates6
You basically just proved my point. The only thing you did in that post was make fun of the gif and ask which power 5 teams were worse.
Y’all came into the Alabama game last year saying the same fricking shite about being battle hardened and playing nobody and got beat by 4 TDs. Find a better argument or troll at least on Bill’s level.
Y’all came into the Alabama game last year saying the same fricking shite about being battle hardened and playing nobody and got beat by 4 TDs. Find a better argument or troll at least on Bill’s level.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 11:10 am to FourThreeForty
Who's yall? I wasn't here so i don't speak for the people who were. And wtf does last year's Alabama game have to do with anything? Go watch some crunchyroll you dork
Posted on 11/21/19 at 11:10 am to Mithridates6
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Well they're wrong. I ask again to find worse teams than Northwestern, Nebraska
Ok..whatever you say. I guess you have the patent on wisdom.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 11:12 am to djsdawg
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Point is?
He passes much more and therefore gets sacked more than Fields
Posted on 11/21/19 at 11:15 am to bayou prince
Posted on 11/21/19 at 11:27 am to Mithridates6
You seem to have a fair amount of knowledge on the subject so I’m just gonna assume you’re a closet watcher and too much of a bitch to own it. One of Alabama’s former ALL SEC lineman plasters it straight on the top of his Twitter for everyone to see. But I guess someone who doesn’t sit in his arse on a message board, had a great college career, few national championships, a degree, a beautiful wife and child and a good paying job is gay and dumb.
I’m done arguing with you, child. I’ve proved my point in this thread that LSU fans use shite arguments to justify their points about their players and schedule so I have no more to say.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 11:27 am to Mithridates6
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LINK LINK LINK LINK Maryland's 79 pts on Howard is doing the heavy lifting for the Big 10's SOS
Yea, pretty bad I must admit...but lets be fair.
Let's forget Northwestern State
Vanderbilt
Arkansas coming up..
We have a very good schedule, but those teams are just as putrid.... and I wouldn't say Nebraska is exactly putrid..more on line with Mississippi State.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 11:31 am to FourThreeForty
Unfortunately one of my old roommates was a huge weeb. IDEK what you're even trying to prove, something about the LSU-Alabama game last year?
Posted on 11/21/19 at 11:34 am to FourThreeForty
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This is such a stupid argument. Y’all always use this to fit you absurd narratives until one time it sticks and then blabber about it for weeks. I can’t count how many times LSU has been smeared after using that argument against teams by equal or better talent that have breezed through awful teams. Battle hardened or poor development because of schedule has blown up in your fanbase’s face too many times for me to take you cucks seriously in that debate.
Calm down, guy. You're coming off trembling mad. The "battle tested" argument is not unique to LSU or its fans. It doesn't guarantee outcomes, but it has its place. Why does that make you so salty?
Posted on 11/21/19 at 11:35 am to FourThreeForty
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FourThreeForty
Stupid frick found
Posted on 11/21/19 at 11:36 am to Farmer1906
Fields and OU and anybody trying to just justify anything about them
Posted on 11/21/19 at 11:37 am to Farmer1906
Physically Fields has the edge over Burrow and he'll most likely finish his career as the better QB. Burrow is in a better passing system, so that affects his numbers (comp%, yards), but Fields is no still slouch at all in that area.
As a decision maker, Fields has improved a lot over this season. The majority of his passes are play action or - like Burrow - straight drop back, with the coaches trusting him fully to read the defense and make the correct decision. However, Burrow's experience shows.
Right now the easiest way to see the difference between them is watching plays that break down. Fields falls into the elite athlete trap where he holds the ball too long and takes more sacks than he should. The flip side is he takes a lot of those plays for first down or touchdowns.
Burrow, however, does an excellent job of scrambling to pass and making the right decision. He is more athletic than he gets credit for, and does run for first downs as well.
Fields has a better arm and is at least accurate as Burrow when it comes to making tough throws. He's just not quite as consistent at the mundane even though he makes less costly passing mistakes.
Both are elite decision makers, but the older Burrow shows the clear edge. Fields stays calm in every circumstance, but Burrow's maturity and leadership really shine, and you can see clearly how his fire & competitiveness elevate his team more than any QB in CFB including Tua. He does have more to overcome as well, with a less talented line and worse running game. Non-the-less he continues to shine.
If I had to pick one player in CFB to win a tough game or score on the last drive it's definitely Burrow. Granted, I think Fields will eventually edge him out, but right now Burrow is clearly the best QB in CFB.
As a decision maker, Fields has improved a lot over this season. The majority of his passes are play action or - like Burrow - straight drop back, with the coaches trusting him fully to read the defense and make the correct decision. However, Burrow's experience shows.
Right now the easiest way to see the difference between them is watching plays that break down. Fields falls into the elite athlete trap where he holds the ball too long and takes more sacks than he should. The flip side is he takes a lot of those plays for first down or touchdowns.
Burrow, however, does an excellent job of scrambling to pass and making the right decision. He is more athletic than he gets credit for, and does run for first downs as well.
Fields has a better arm and is at least accurate as Burrow when it comes to making tough throws. He's just not quite as consistent at the mundane even though he makes less costly passing mistakes.
Both are elite decision makers, but the older Burrow shows the clear edge. Fields stays calm in every circumstance, but Burrow's maturity and leadership really shine, and you can see clearly how his fire & competitiveness elevate his team more than any QB in CFB including Tua. He does have more to overcome as well, with a less talented line and worse running game. Non-the-less he continues to shine.
If I had to pick one player in CFB to win a tough game or score on the last drive it's definitely Burrow. Granted, I think Fields will eventually edge him out, but right now Burrow is clearly the best QB in CFB.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 11:37 am to GRTiger
We can beat Ohio State by 14 easily.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 11:37 am to BuckeyeATC87
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Or it shows how insanely dominate Ohio State has been on both sides of the ball. I see alot being thrown around on this site about LSU defenders battling through injuries but Ohio State has done the same as well. Ohio State is flat out dominating their schedule and the defense is holding opponents to numbers well below their season averages.
Yeah, Yeah, Yeah. Thats what Bama said too. Move along tree nut, adults are talking.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 11:38 am to Mithridates6
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Fields doesn't need to pass (or play in general) as much b/c OSU is burying some of the worst P5 teams in the country (Northwestern, Maryland, Rutgers and Nebraska);
Don’t worry.... LSU’s cupcakes are on the way in the form of Arky and A&M. OSU still has to play potentially 3 teams in the top 15 to finish the season.
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