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re: Just my thoughts. No trash talk. Just what I see and as objectively as I can see it.

Posted on 8/27/26 at 7:40 pm to
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
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Posted on 8/27/26 at 7:40 pm to
It’s not about these players. Once something becomes possible, it never goes away and will expand. You just think it benefits LSU. It may. Lane Kiffin is a great offensive coach. My concern is on the future of college football and NIL/transfer portal have done enough damage on their own. Adding the possibility of NFL washouts returning to college will be another negative factor
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
76243 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 7:42 pm to
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It’s not about these players. Once something becomes possible, it never goes away and will expand. You just think it benefits LSU. It may. Lane Kiffin is a great offensive coach. My concern is on the future of college football and NIL/transfer portal have done enough damage on their own. Adding the possibility of NFL washouts returning to college will be another negative factor


I don't think it's just about these players at all, it isn't even about LSU, it's just another step toward the inevitable.

You just have to realize that college football, as you've known it, is done. Think about the arguments we're having here. Pro vs amateur, both groups have agents, both get paid, what is the actual difference anymore?
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
112089 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 7:45 pm to
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The kids you are getting back now have played professional ball. They have done this after the eligibility rule went through.

Yes because the weren't granted a 5th year like every other class was. Their class was singled out. I'm not sure why you can't understand that distinction.
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
3903 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 7:46 pm to
It won’t end with them and if you are being honest with yourself then you know I am right.
Posted by LSU713Tiger
Houston, TX
Member since Nov 2012
281 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 7:48 pm to
Agreed -

Someone is going to have to force congress to act and Lane is the hero needed but not deserved.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
76243 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 7:48 pm to
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The kids you are getting back now have played professional ball.


What is the actual difference at this point? Other than tradition?
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
112089 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 7:51 pm to
If any other class tries to do this, I won't agree with it. This class deserved to be grandfathered in. The NCAA is a joke for this mess.
Posted by ukraine_rebel
North Mississippi
Member since Oct 2012
4182 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 8:05 pm to
Bc the market for players pre-2021 was nowhere near the cost of facilities. Case in point, we were busted and state skated for each of us offering Leo Lewis 10 grand. That’s it! Multiply that over a roster, a bag here, a bag there, and you’re looking at maybe 500 grand, w the Cam Newton types getting 180.

That all changed, and former poors were all the sudden in the game for a relatively small amount of money. Of course that’s now ballooned in short order to what it is and I imagine it’ll collapse on itself in the next 5 years.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
76243 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 8:08 pm to
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Bc the market for players pre-2021 was nowhere near the cost of facilities. Case in point, we were busted and state skated for each of us offering Leo Lewis 10 grand. That’s it! Multiply that over a roster, a bag here, a bag there, and you’re looking at maybe 500 grand, w the Cam Newton types getting 180.

That all changed, and former poors were all the sudden in the game for a relatively small amount of money. Of course that’s now ballooned in short order to what it is and I imagine it’ll collapse on itself in the next 5 years.


Stay with me here.

If Ole Miss had all of this money all along, why didn't you invest in your coaches and facilities?

You allege that the blue bloods were doing that AND paying players, yet they can't do either now.

How does Ole Miss suddenly have a larger football budget than blue bloods who have spent millions and millions on facilities and players and coaches for decades?
Posted by ukraine_rebel
North Mississippi
Member since Oct 2012
4182 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 8:24 pm to
We hit about a 25 year black hole after going w the Kinard family after Vaught retired over Vaught’s choice for replacement, and it really wasn’t until Khayat became chancellor in the late 90s that we started seriously fundraising. Of course by then we were decades behind.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
76243 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 8:26 pm to
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We hit about a 25 year black hole after going w the Kinard family after Vaught retired over Vaught’s choice for replacement, and it really wasn’t until Khayat became chancellor in the late 90s that we started seriously fundraising. Of course by then we were decades behind.


So if you're spending right along with the blue bloods, why did Kiffin leave for a school that isn't even a blue blood?

I'm not trashing Ole Miss, I'm just saying what you're saying doesn't add up to an outsider.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
42692 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 8:48 pm to
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so it seems like that's your main beef with Lane. because he left Ole Miss. he left for a better job. end of story. even the great Nick Saban told him to take the job.


Which is weird for a Georgia fan.
Posted by Cuthy
Colleyville Tx
Member since Aug 2019
95 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 9:44 pm to
Why should universities and what we’ve known as college football, college basketball continue to be connected?

- when I last heard of a player being ineligible to play due to academic standing was ??? I don’t recall. Do these “student athletes” have classes they are required to attend and pass?

- at this point the universities are funding facilities, coaching, training, nutrition staffs, providing medical care, paying for facilities to train and stadiums to play the games in.

- in addition, paying players to play, paying them to come and visit.

-paying lawyers to deal with the ever increasing numbers of lawsuits

Why not disassociate the names and the of the universities from all these teams. Don’t pay crazy amounts for coaches and all the other “business expenses”. If some entity wants to organize, pay, train players into teams - have at it!
Universities can rent them facilities, rent them stadiums, trining rooms and equipment, everything those teams will need to get setup and running.
Posted by SouthernInsanity
Shadows of Death Valley
Member since Nov 2012
28124 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 9:48 pm to
4. More than 4 teams inside the SEC are pursuing kids that should be allowed their 5th year.
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
15254 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 10:33 pm to
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Yes because the weren't granted a 5th year like every other class was. Their class was singled out. I'm not sure why you can't understand that distinction.



The rule went into effect in June. They were UDFA's and should have known that they probably weren't going to make the team going into summer camp. Right then, they could've said "Hey, I didn't realize I'd get a fifth year. I'm gonna challenge this and go back. They got the injunction at the end of July. They still kept practicing until the team cut them.

So no. They waited until they knew they couldn't get in the NFL to go back.
Posted by LSU4Life2021
In the dump known as Mississippi
Member since Dec 2021
1433 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 10:35 pm to
Go the OP….you wasted a lot of your time
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
54965 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 10:37 pm to
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And LK has said he doesn’t like where this is going,but you either play the system or fall behind.

Isnt it so convenient for Kiffin to not like where its going, while sending it there with turbo speed.
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
15254 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 10:37 pm to
Doesn't get anymore clear than this hoss. And everyone is wasting time here. It's a message board.

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Dude is waiting out to see how it goes in the NFL, then returning to play college football.

If you would've gone back, just go back.
Posted by Alltheway Tigers!
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
8234 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 10:47 pm to
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Wrong. I've never been one of those on here boohooing abotu every change. This seems a step too far. You like because that pet dog you have is beautiful and attacking everyone else. That dog will bite you at some point though. Be ready.


Where am I wrong? Players have been official paid for the last 3-4 years and unofficially for at least the last 20-25 years. They have huge paycheck today, many rival or exceed “professionals” paychecks. The amateur players have access to full health, diet, and professional consultation/assistance/help just like the pros. These amateurs have top agents. Last, they move teams with the highest compensation package from year to year. These are all facts and no matter how many “wrongs” you want to thrown out, it won’t change today’s reality.

Regardless of any dog in this hunt I may or may not have, the college amateur athlete is no more. Replaced gradually and not so gradually by championship games, brackets, and marketing. It is not coming back either.
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
15254 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 7:15 am to
"The college football you want"

You don't know what I want, lil bengal.
This post was edited on 8/28/26 at 8:30 pm
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