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re: It’s so much easier to get into Texas aTm than Texas, reminds me of Tennessee v Vandy
Posted on 2/13/23 at 10:25 am to Cheese Grits
Posted on 2/13/23 at 10:25 am to Cheese Grits
Not “easy” to get into either school..
Pretty much need to be in top 10 percent of your class… in areas like katy and woodlands you will have to be in a lot of honors classes and have above a 4.0…
But in other areas like inner city or very country you can have a 3.8 in a less competitive environment and be in top ten percent… if all your friends kids are getting in you have some friends with smart kids…
With that said Texas is ranked higher and unless hard core ag or petroleum eng a better choice ( politics aside)…
Both are very good schools for college education and significantly different life experience.. pick what you like…
Pretty much need to be in top 10 percent of your class… in areas like katy and woodlands you will have to be in a lot of honors classes and have above a 4.0…
But in other areas like inner city or very country you can have a 3.8 in a less competitive environment and be in top ten percent… if all your friends kids are getting in you have some friends with smart kids…
With that said Texas is ranked higher and unless hard core ag or petroleum eng a better choice ( politics aside)…
Both are very good schools for college education and significantly different life experience.. pick what you like…
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Posted on 2/13/23 at 10:27 am to Thecoz
I find it interesting that Aggies have to write essays about how they're equal to Texas while Texas fans don't take it seriously and laugh at them.
Posted on 2/13/23 at 11:19 am to Radio Zero
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that could mean exactly nothing
It means A&M rejects a ton of people which also means the OP is wrong.
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Apply to Texas aTm w a pulse and you get in
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aTm diploma mill , just apply and u in
Posted on 2/13/23 at 11:33 am to charliethehun
To the state of Texas credit if a kid attends a Texas high school and meets some pretty basic standards ie GPA and standard curriculum there is a seat in a public university somewhere in Texas for them. Texas A&M is one of the easier ones to get into but if I am not mistaken no qualified in state student ever gets turned down in Lubbock...
I have an acquaintance who runs a bank branch in Austin who claims that you know its August in Austin because the roads are clogged with trucks with cattle trailers behing them hauling Jim Bob and Rebecca from Big Spring and Bagdad into town for school and you know its mid October when those trucks show up and fetch those kids because they were accepted at UT Austin because they were at or near the top of their high school class but in no way qualified to matriculate in Austin. I can't verify if it is true but I know several people whose kids went to ATM and Texas Tech and those kids were dumber than a sack of hammers....
I have an acquaintance who runs a bank branch in Austin who claims that you know its August in Austin because the roads are clogged with trucks with cattle trailers behing them hauling Jim Bob and Rebecca from Big Spring and Bagdad into town for school and you know its mid October when those trucks show up and fetch those kids because they were accepted at UT Austin because they were at or near the top of their high school class but in no way qualified to matriculate in Austin. I can't verify if it is true but I know several people whose kids went to ATM and Texas Tech and those kids were dumber than a sack of hammers....
Posted on 2/13/23 at 11:37 am to Farmer1906
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Pretty much need to be in top 10 percent of your class… in areas like katy and woodlands you will have to be in a lot of honors classes and have above a 4.0…
Except you don't. Here are two schools, tell me if you think one is "much easier" to get into than the other:
School A:
Applicants: 42k
UG acceptance rate: 62%
New student top 10%: 56%
School B:
Applicants: 53k
UG acceptance rate: 34%
New student top 10%: 77%
Hopefully that is easier than Saragin rankings for those who have trouble with math, only 6 #'s there to look at.
Posted on 2/13/23 at 11:40 am to AwgustaDawg
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Texas A&M is one of the easier ones to get into but if I am not mistaken no qualified in state student ever gets turned down in Lubbock...
Interestingly, Tech has a slightly lower acceptance rate than A&M. But much lower scores of those accepted...
Posted on 2/13/23 at 11:41 am to AwgustaDawg
It’s probably easier to get into Georgia than A&M if we are being honest
Posted on 2/13/23 at 11:50 am to MurphyGator
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The only reason Texas is harder to get into currently is because the state government forces Texas A&M to accept students in top 10% and allows Texas to only accept the top 6%. A state legislator goes to my church and told me it is that way because years ago when they made that rule, lawmakers said Texas A&M had much more land to expand their campus in College Station and that Texas couldn’t expand at all because their campus was landlocked in the city of Austin.
SO out of a class of 300 30 kids would be accepted into one of 2 of the better schools in the state, if they wanted? That doesn't seem like much of a bar even in Texas with pretty good public schools. I was told that every high school grad in Texas had a seat in a public university based on their HS performance but 10% or 6% seems awful easy to obtain....most kids below 10% probably ain't even applying to schools but are applying at What A Burger...
Posted on 2/13/23 at 11:58 am to JayAg
[quote]It’s probably easier to get into Georgia than A&M if we are being honest[/quote
ATM accepts somehwere north of 60% of applicants while UGA accepts right at 40%. About 70K students at ATM, about half that at UGA. It is nearly impossible for most high school graduates in Georgia to get into UGA and is impossible if that applicant does not attend HS in Metro Atlanta or a private school in Atlanta. Thats not to say that kids from rural areas do not get in but the majority come from Metro Atlanta if they hail from Georgia at all. UGA was not that selective 30 years ago but it has seriously changed since.
The top 10% law in Texas is laudable and should be the law in all states. The problem is that most would take part in grade inflation though....
ATM accepts somehwere north of 60% of applicants while UGA accepts right at 40%. About 70K students at ATM, about half that at UGA. It is nearly impossible for most high school graduates in Georgia to get into UGA and is impossible if that applicant does not attend HS in Metro Atlanta or a private school in Atlanta. Thats not to say that kids from rural areas do not get in but the majority come from Metro Atlanta if they hail from Georgia at all. UGA was not that selective 30 years ago but it has seriously changed since.
The top 10% law in Texas is laudable and should be the law in all states. The problem is that most would take part in grade inflation though....
Posted on 2/13/23 at 12:13 pm to UThomas
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Interestingly, Tech has a slightly lower acceptance rate than A&M. But much lower scores of those accepted...
And what does that tell you?
Posted on 2/13/23 at 12:53 pm to Cheese Grits
Yes I know the recruiter she is a nice lady. I wanted to go to Sewanee, wish I had. Coolest campus I’ve ever seen.
There are also a lot more coming from San Antonio lately.
There are also a lot more coming from San Antonio lately.
Posted on 2/13/23 at 12:54 pm to AwgustaDawg
You are delusional
Posted on 2/13/23 at 12:55 pm to Farmer1906
Acceptance rate is a dumb way to look at it. If everybody who applied to tech applied to A&M then A&M would have a lower acceptance rate. Lots of those kids that got denied from Tech (lol) probably didn’t even bother applying for A&M or UT.
This post was edited on 2/13/23 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 2/13/23 at 1:02 pm to AwgustaDawg
The kids have to be in top 10 percent and take required courses, score well on ACT or SAT to get into A&M. Classes in Texas are ranked on a point system. So, to get into top 10% at most high schools a kid has to take majority of classes that are Honors/Advanced and AP level courses. At the high school my kids attend, there is no way that a student can make top 10% unless they make straight A's and take all Honors/Advanced and AP courses. Ex: a student could make straight A's all four years of high school and still not make top 10% if they didn't take the hardest classes because the school is very competetive.
I live in a suburb of Dallas and what I described above is the same scenario at every high school in North Texas. We have relatives in Houston and Austin and it is the same thing there.
I'm not sure who told you that Texas Tech is on the same level academically as Texas A&M. But, as a parent currently going through the process right now with my child, I can tell you that is completely false. A&M is where the Honors kids who took courses like AP Physics and AP Calculus end up. Tech is where kids who made B's and C's in high school end up going to college. Nothing wrong with the place, but it is not where high achieving kids in Texas end up. If they stay in state, they go to Texas A&M, Texas, or Rice. I think it would be hard for you to compare Texas to what you know in Georgia. Texas is much larger with a more highly educated population. Georgia only has Atlanta, where Texas has Dallas/Fort Worth, Houston, Austin, and San Antonio. That is where the problem lies in Texas. Too many high achieving smart kids that only want to attend Texas A&M or Texas. And because Texas A&M owns so much land around the university and had the ability to expand, the state has forced them to take on more high achieving students. That is why they are required to accept top 10% and Texas only has to accept top 6%.
I live in a suburb of Dallas and what I described above is the same scenario at every high school in North Texas. We have relatives in Houston and Austin and it is the same thing there.
I'm not sure who told you that Texas Tech is on the same level academically as Texas A&M. But, as a parent currently going through the process right now with my child, I can tell you that is completely false. A&M is where the Honors kids who took courses like AP Physics and AP Calculus end up. Tech is where kids who made B's and C's in high school end up going to college. Nothing wrong with the place, but it is not where high achieving kids in Texas end up. If they stay in state, they go to Texas A&M, Texas, or Rice. I think it would be hard for you to compare Texas to what you know in Georgia. Texas is much larger with a more highly educated population. Georgia only has Atlanta, where Texas has Dallas/Fort Worth, Houston, Austin, and San Antonio. That is where the problem lies in Texas. Too many high achieving smart kids that only want to attend Texas A&M or Texas. And because Texas A&M owns so much land around the university and had the ability to expand, the state has forced them to take on more high achieving students. That is why they are required to accept top 10% and Texas only has to accept top 6%.
This post was edited on 2/13/23 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 2/13/23 at 1:23 pm to MurphyGator
Above is accurate from my dad experience from years past…
.I have kids that graduated from LSU, Texas, Texas tech, and A&M….. also was lead recruiter for our corporation for A&M and also recruited at Texas…
Texas has a large amount of very good schools that open doors for students to excel as they choose.
They use the feeder system to get new students in that could not get in right out of high school due to class rankings.. you spend a year there and get into the system… I.e. Blinn… ut San Antonio…
.I have kids that graduated from LSU, Texas, Texas tech, and A&M….. also was lead recruiter for our corporation for A&M and also recruited at Texas…
Texas has a large amount of very good schools that open doors for students to excel as they choose.
They use the feeder system to get new students in that could not get in right out of high school due to class rankings.. you spend a year there and get into the system… I.e. Blinn… ut San Antonio…
Posted on 2/13/23 at 1:49 pm to AwgustaDawg
Top 6% is just the auto admit percentage for the university in general. The business and engineering schools are more competitive. I know the business school used to (and might still) take a flat number of the top percentage of auto admits, then review everyone else holistically.
Posted on 2/13/23 at 2:51 pm to MurphyGator
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The kids have to be in top 10 percent and take required courses, score well on ACT or SAT to get into A&M. Classes in Texas are ranked on a point system. So, to get into top 10% at most high schools a kid has to take majority of classes that are Honors/Advanced and AP level courses. At the high school my kids attend, there is no way that a student can make top 10% unless they make straight A's and take all Honors/Advanced and AP courses. Ex: a student could make straight A's all four years of high school and still not make top 10% if they didn't take the hardest classes because the school is very competetive.
I live in a suburb of Dallas and what I described above is the same scenario at every high school in North Texas. We have relatives in Houston and Austin and it is the same thing there.
I'm not sure who told you that Texas Tech is on the same level academically as Texas A&M. But, as a parent currently going through the process right now with my child, I can tell you that is completely false. A&M is where the Honors kids who took courses like AP Physics and AP Calculus end up. Tech is where kids who made B's and C's in high school end up going to college. Nothing wrong with the place, but it is not where high achieving kids in Texas end up. If they stay in state, they go to Texas A&M, Texas, or Rice. I think it would be hard for you to compare Texas to what you know in Georgia. Texas is much larger with a more highly educated population. Georgia only has Atlanta, where Texas has Dallas/Fort Worth, Houston, Austin, and San Antonio. That is where the problem lies in Texas. Too many high achieving smart kids that only want to attend Texas A&M or Texas. And because Texas A&M owns so much land around the university and had the ability to expand, the state has forced them to take on more high achieving students. That is why they are required to accept top 10% and Texas only has to accept top 6%.
Texas and Georgia are very comparable when it comes to an educated populace. 88.2% of Georgia citizens have a high school diploma and 33% have a bachelor's degree or better. Those numbers are 84.8% and 31.5% respectively in Texas. Georgia schools are ranked nationally at 26th while Texas is at 34. Georgia's population is far more diverse. While it is absolutely true that Texas has far more and far bigger metro areas than Georgia there are also vast areas of Texas where almost no one lives. Georgia has excellent schools outside of Metro Atlanta. Areas around Columbus, Macon, Savannah Athens and Augusta all have schools ranked WAY above the state average, on par with metro Atlanta schools as well as those in Dallas, Houston, Austin and San Antonio.
The bottom line is that kids in families with higher incomes get into better schools and there are very good schools in every state in the nation. The fact that Texas requires 10% of the top students in states high schools have a seat SOMEWHERE is laudable...it isn't so in Georgia where there are plenty of seats in colleges but in the "better" schools those seats are reserved for the top 3% or so of instate students. UGA, GT, Emory, along with a handful of other schools, are on par with the best schools in the nation and they are VERY selective in their admissions policies because they can afford to be. The same is true of all states. Texas should be applauded for making space for instate kids. Of course the best and the brightest are going to go the best schools, if thats what they want to do, as it should be....but the Texas Techs and Texas States do a good job with students meaning to get an education and the state and its people should be lauded for seeing to it that those schools are also among the top in the nation and that a kid who tries in high school will have a seat somewhere.
Posted on 2/13/23 at 2:51 pm to Farmer1906
Texas acceptance rate: 29%
Texas A&M acceptance rate: 64%
Same/same
Texas A&M acceptance rate: 64%
Same/same
Posted on 2/13/23 at 3:20 pm to DigglerontheHoof
You don’t have to be in the top 6% or 10% to get into Texas or A&M…as long as you do have good grades and possess other skills or have participated in extracurricular activities that can warrant your admission.
The last I heard, Texas A&M was still a branch of UT Austin.
UT Dallas is also an excellent academic institution, perhaps exceeding that of A&M.
The last I heard, Texas A&M was still a branch of UT Austin.
UT Dallas is also an excellent academic institution, perhaps exceeding that of A&M.
Posted on 2/13/23 at 3:22 pm to AwgustaDawg
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Georgia's population is far more diverse.
This is not true. Georgia is a diverse state thanks to its large, educated, wealthy African American community. It finishes behind Texas in almost every diversity scale, however, as non-hispanic whites are a minority in Texas now.
You can see it in any diversity index from the Census Bureau to all the third party analytical groups.
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