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Posted on 6/22/21 at 7:50 am to pioneerbasketball
Posted on 6/22/21 at 7:50 am to pioneerbasketball
Won't be long and the non revenue sport's players will demand equal pay and will get it. A softball player will want the same as a football player, and claim discrimination. The schools will eventually cut sports due to the financial burden. This is a slippery slope, kids in the non revenue sports will end up cutting off their noses despite their faces.
Title IX will endure it's mens sports that get cut. Spells doom for wrestling, hockey, men's soccer, and any other sport with rosters big enough to trim the fat and keep the number of Male to female scholarship athletes equal
Title IX will endure it's mens sports that get cut. Spells doom for wrestling, hockey, men's soccer, and any other sport with rosters big enough to trim the fat and keep the number of Male to female scholarship athletes equal
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Posted on 6/22/21 at 7:52 am to Poker Dough
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Nobody knows what the ripple effects will be from this but it won't be good
Good is a relative term. Could mean we finally get a P5 or even a P6 or P7-only league with reimagined conferences that go back to a regional focus. Could mean we have far less games to watch on Saturdays (I highly doubt this as ESPN/Disney will likely help foot the bill for the inventory, as they’ve done for bowls in December). Change is coming but when the current product is already lacking, it’s not guaranteed that all change is bad.
Posted on 6/22/21 at 7:53 am to TrendingRight
Bama fans mad. Going to 12 teams makes Bama fans mad too. and now we may do away w/ divisions due to that. Bad news for Saban lately, he should just quit while he is ahead 
Posted on 6/22/21 at 7:54 am to Poker Dough
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Won't be long and the non revenue sport's players will demand equal pay and will get it.
They’re going to sue third party businesses? Because at the moment, they’re all compensated fairly by their schools via scholarship agreements that adhere to Title IX requirements. And if you’re worried about a reimagining of “educational opportunity” then consider what I just wrote the Governor on outlandish spending (because, yeah, giving a football player a car as an educational opportunity but not to a softball player will open up grounds for litigation)
Posted on 6/22/21 at 7:56 am to tylerdurden24
You know that, I know that. The kids are entitled and don't know that. What this will boil down to is 18 year old softball and soccer players screaming this isn't fair and adults doing everything to prevent it. Those kids don't understand the only reason their sports exist is Title IX and the money football and men's basketball bring in to fund them.
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Posted on 6/22/21 at 8:08 am to geauxcoco
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Bama fans mad. Going to 12 teams makes Bama fans mad too. and now we may do away w/ divisions due to that. Bad news for Saban lately, he should just quit while he is ahead
Not this Alabama fan. I don't really sweat all this because it's out of my hands anyway, and as previously noted, it'll be kind of interesting and was due to come in some shape/form/fashion anyway.
Actually, Alabama will thrive in this sort of college football world. All you have said Alabama is a football factory. It's just bidness.
Posted on 6/22/21 at 8:13 am to TrendingRight
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The reason we're here and what we love is gone.
That happened a while ago. There’s only three teams that compete every year now. Alabama, Clemson and Ohio State are the only teams that ever have a chance of winning. That’s incredibly boring and has ruined the sport.
Posted on 6/22/21 at 8:17 am to tylerdurden24
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tylerdurden24
This dude gets it. College football has been 'amateur' in name only for a long time now. If they'd adapted to the environment when big money started flowing in, they could have eased into all of this instead of having the rug completely pulled out from under them in one fell swoop. But here we are.
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Posted on 6/22/21 at 8:28 am to Poker Dough
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Won't be long and the non revenue sport's players will demand equal pay and will get it. A softball player will want the same as a football player, and claim discrimination. The schools will eventually cut sports due to the financial burden. This is a slippery slope, kids in the non revenue sports will end up cutting off their noses despite their faces.
Absolutely. The ones who are going to suffer the most initially will be the non-revenue sports - especially on the men's side of the house. Title IX will dictate schools carry a requisite amount of girls' teams to balance out men's basketball and football scholarship totals. Everything else is getting cut. And only the girl's sports that bring in some kind of revenue (softball, hoops and maybe gymnastics) will survive.
And it doesn't really matter if the Bamas, Ohio States and Georgias of the world can pay the freight of all the sports with their big 2 men's sports. If no one else can, who will be left for their non-revenue teams to play? I doubt there will be enough football teams left to maintain a viable sport once all the dust clears.
Posted on 6/22/21 at 8:52 am to TrendingRight
Who the hell watches college sports because they aren't getting paid?
Posted on 6/22/21 at 8:55 am to Stonehog
Then take it up with your AD. If you can't run with the Big Dogs then stay on the porch and bark.
Posted on 6/22/21 at 8:58 am to TrendingRight
I agree that we are headed towards Wonka land with all this.
How long before high school kids (think Lebron or Zion-type athletes) are also getting NIL deals? Or opting out of their senior seasons once they sign a NLI to a school?
How long before high school kids (think Lebron or Zion-type athletes) are also getting NIL deals? Or opting out of their senior seasons once they sign a NLI to a school?
Posted on 6/22/21 at 9:00 am to tygerphan
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How long before high school kids (think Lebron or Zion-type athletes) are also getting NIL deals? Or opting out of their senior seasons once they sign a NLI to a school?
I'm trying to find where the problem is...
Posted on 6/22/21 at 9:10 am to pvilleguru
As the rules get implemented and the pay starts flowing there will be a reduction and as time goes on probably a significant reduction in the number of scholarships. Some high school kids who once were good enough to play at the college level may end their playing career at the high school level.
Posted on 6/22/21 at 9:10 am to TeddyWestside
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The truth of the matter is that the universities can no longer delay the inevitable. They must either end (or, at least, significantly alter) their version of amateurism, or they need to work with the NFL to establish a professional minor league for guys only interested in going to the NFL, purposefully dilute their product to reduce interest, get the big money out of the game, and go back to having college football being an amateur sport played by college students.
I think it’s possible you see a CBA on the horizon between players and colleges. Ultimately, this will result in athletes having a voice in the process and it doesn’t necessarily require that schools pay them to do so. Question is how to allow unionization of athletes without defining them as employees
Posted on 6/22/21 at 9:11 am to pvilleguru
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I'm trying to find where the problem is...
Exactly. Self above all is our new world.
Why do courts put inheritances into trust funds for minors btw?
Posted on 6/22/21 at 9:13 am to pvilleguru
College football and basketball will become professional franchises exactly like the NFL & NBA. The players will unionize and sue for collective bargaining and salaries will be set by negotiation between players and college administrations. This will kill college football and basketball on many campuses. The vast majority of universities can't afford to pay their athletes. Only the strong will survive. In the end far fewer student athletes will get the opportunity to play College Professional Sports.
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Posted on 6/22/21 at 9:15 am to Poker Dough
quote:some are entitled but not all. And if a non-rev player or sport sues successfully over an inequity in the system, it just means there was an inequity in the system. The school(s) can the. choose to either address the issue or fold the sport. Are some schools (especially smaller ones) going to limit their athletic teams as a result? Yeah, probably. But that’s trimming the bloat that has developed as a result of not honoring the labor in this now-huge money making enterprise. Schools can still offer club softball and club rowing and whatever else. They just won’t be able to compete with programs that are willing to contribute more fund to a sport and that’s… not bad. If anything it returns to the amateur ideal everyone seems to be so romantic for.
The kids are entitled and don't know that.
Posted on 6/22/21 at 9:19 am to TrendingRight
All I know is this sucks. and it is bama, notre dame, ohio state, and clemson's fault.
Posted on 6/22/21 at 9:20 am to atomic31
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Who the frick cares about amateurism? Besides, everything has been and always be about pay anyway. Even ignoring the fact that most of the players on teams worth a shite are probably getting paid already, players choose where to go primarily off of which teams have the best facilities and give them the best chance to go to the NFL. You know which schools have the best facilities? That's right, the ones with most dollars to spend.
The real problem with college football is that no one cares anymore. The only reason that Alabama, Clemson, and Ohio State pull the highest recruiting classes every year is not because they have the best chance to win a championship, but because they put the most players in the NFL and have the biggest brands in the sport right now (Just look at Georgia). 4 and 5 star recruits don't care about championships, and why should they? This sport has been broken for a while - but fans of very competitive teams are late to see it.
That's a lot of stuff to read. You could have posted this instead to save us some trouble of reading all that..."I'm a dumbass".
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