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re: Is NCAA Football in a decline? What would correct it?

Posted on 10/26/20 at 5:35 pm to
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14925 posts
Posted on 10/26/20 at 5:35 pm to
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Hire a better HC!


And how is that going to change the talent gap?



That is why you hire a better HC to recruit better. Missouri is getting better due to better HC. Next will be getting better recruits to compete for the east division. Any school can do it if they hire the right HC. Also got to fork over a lot of money and have competitive athletic training for football. That is why Missouri build one for football and not put much on the stadium. When start winning more money comes in and build other things and pay more to coaches. That is life for college football top tiers. Compete or be bottom feeders or middle of the pack feeders.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53468 posts
Posted on 10/26/20 at 5:35 pm to
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Attendance is down 80% around the country. The crowds are terrible. You maybe in to something.




Everything we are talking about is prior to covid.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14925 posts
Posted on 10/26/20 at 5:38 pm to
Dan Mullen was a great hired for Mississippi State. Got to get try again. Missouri got lucky and Arkansas got lucky. How long will they stay? No one knows for sure. Pittman will retire there but he is already old. So not more than 5 years or so.
Posted by blackcurly
Member since Nov 2014
91 posts
Posted on 10/26/20 at 5:38 pm to
The better sec games this year have been between the lesser teams.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44838 posts
Posted on 10/26/20 at 5:42 pm to
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Is NCAA Football in a decline?


Yes. 124 teams/fan bases go into a given season knowing they have no shot at a national title.

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What would correct it?


Stop lowering admissions standards for athletes. That would be a good start. Allowing major college football to become NFL lite is going to kill the sport.

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limit the roster and recruiting class size. I think 60-65 man roster is enough, and 13-15 per class.


I like this a lot.

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I am for limiting the number of 5 stars a class can have as well as 4 stars a class can have.


I don't like this though.
This post was edited on 10/26/20 at 5:44 pm
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53468 posts
Posted on 10/26/20 at 5:43 pm to
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That is why you hire a better HC to recruit better. Missouri is getting better due to better HC.


38-19 is not getting better.

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Next will be getting better recruits to compete for the east division. Any school can do it if they hire the right HC. Also got to fork over a lot of money and have competitive athletic training for football. That is why Missouri build one for football and not put much on the stadium. When start winning more money comes in and build other things and pay more to coaches. That is life for college football top tiers. Compete or be bottom feeders or middle of the pack feeders.


LOL! Dreaming man. Look at the last 10 years.

The talent gap is never going to shift. Coaching will not over come that.

Since 2007, we have lost 23 games. 6 of those in Saban's first year. 2 in his 2nd year.

We have been and will always remain a talent magnet because of our history.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14925 posts
Posted on 10/26/20 at 5:46 pm to
So Alabama been on top throughout history?
This post was edited on 10/26/20 at 5:48 pm
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22668 posts
Posted on 10/26/20 at 5:55 pm to
I do not give a shite how many people watch college football.

People just say this crap as an excuse to push some stupid rule they like.
This post was edited on 10/26/20 at 5:56 pm
Posted by redeye
Member since Aug 2013
8598 posts
Posted on 10/26/20 at 6:11 pm to
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College Football has never been democratic but it gets more top heavy every year. You have individual upsets ocasionally but the race for the NC is actually pretty boring for 95% of America


This is some of it. The recruiting services have made it easier for top teams to identify and hoard the best players. The national media (particularly ESPN) are now all about money, so they spend most of their time covering, and praising, teams that benefit their bank account. This all gives a handful of schools a huge advantage.

I remember when Sportscenter would talk about more games and teams than they do now. I'd watch to see what they would say about Arkansas, but we're mentioned so little now that I haven't watched in years. Back in the 80s and 90s, it was nice to see how every now-P5 team was doing, but now you just get 100 opinions about the same games/teams, over and over again.

So unless you're a fan of one these select teams, it's just boring now.
Posted by atomic31
Member since Aug 2018
1450 posts
Posted on 10/26/20 at 6:15 pm to
Playoff either needs expansion or contraction. There's just enough spots to where the same teams can make it every year, but not quite enough spots to get new teams in more often. The members of the playoff recruit at a level that no one else does and the continue making the playoff, creating this boring arse cycle.
This post was edited on 10/26/20 at 6:20 pm
Posted by MrMojoRisin
Udûn
Member since May 2014
6982 posts
Posted on 10/26/20 at 6:18 pm to
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. I am for limiting the number of 5 stars a class can have as well as 4 stars a class can have.



Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63989 posts
Posted on 10/26/20 at 6:24 pm to
70 scholarship limit gets you 3 deep at every position plus 4.

That's the only way.
Posted by I let the dogs out
Member since Sep 2017
2241 posts
Posted on 10/26/20 at 6:42 pm to
I agree and I like your recruiting limits, except I wonder if we should give official impact to recruiting services’ ratings of players like that. If we do, they’d have to be regulated by the NCAA, I would think.

If you let players transfer, no questions asked, without having to sit out a year, that would let Bama’s 2nd and 3rd stringers play at State, OM, and Ark. Cue the Bama bullshite artists who will argue they’d stay in Tuscaloosa anyway. No. No they wouldn’t.

Talk about Marxism. There’s nothing free market about the NCAA.
Posted by Auburn80
Backwater, TN
Member since Nov 2017
7503 posts
Posted on 10/26/20 at 6:51 pm to
No more Marxist than the 85 limit we have now.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66492 posts
Posted on 10/26/20 at 6:54 pm to
How about a spring camp and a full season?
Posted by reggieray420
Member since Dec 2016
2700 posts
Posted on 10/26/20 at 7:50 pm to
Have the damn players stop kneeling. Oh wait
Posted by BFANLC
The Beach
Member since Oct 2007
18119 posts
Posted on 10/26/20 at 7:56 pm to
With all the covid crap going on Ive got a feeling a bunch of people are gonna see that they dont need to go to games.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18385 posts
Posted on 10/26/20 at 8:38 pm to
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What's your idea?


College football needs to get back to its roots. Pageantry. School pride. Rivalries. The band. Cheers.

Less focus on the NC.

Accept you might lose a chunk of fans.

But make CFB great again by going back to what made it great in the first place.
Posted by r2d2
Member since Dec 2006
6842 posts
Posted on 10/26/20 at 8:57 pm to
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College football needs to get back to its roots. Pageantry. School pride. Rivalries. The band. Cheers.


I agree in spirit but that ship has sailed and is moving fast in the opposite direction.

Only option is Maybe for top level talent to have the option to go pro right away in some capacity. Lower divisions rarely have the Julio Jones and Derek Stingleys playing but it’s still good Football and closer to a true collegiate sport.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 10/26/20 at 9:00 pm to
It's like baseball, fewer kids play it but the kids that do are better at it. More coaching and resources.
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