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Is NCAA Football in a decline? What would correct it?

Posted on 10/26/20 at 5:04 pm
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 10/26/20 at 5:04 pm
I believe it is. When you look at the sport as a whole, it 100% with out a doubt is in a decline.

We in the SEC like to declare we don't give a frick about other conferences, but we need them to be productive. It's a sport and we need competition from around the USA. We need the smaller location to be that "dark horse"... the under dog.

We are not a competitive sport anymore. We know who is going to compete every year for the championship. There may be a few that changes on a down year. Even in the SEC, we know. Come on...

The issue isn't just coaching. There is a talent level gap and it's massive. We have to find out a way to correct it or crowds will drop off.


I think the only way is to limit the roster and recruiting class size. I think 60-65 man roster is enough, and 13-15 per class. I am for limiting the number of 5 stars a class can have as well as 4 stars a class can have.

What's your idea?

Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 10/26/20 at 5:05 pm to
I think it's fine
Posted by agrunner
Flower Mound
Member since Dec 2012
4617 posts
Posted on 10/26/20 at 5:06 pm to
Not having Clemson vs bama every year would go a long way.
Posted by r2d2
Member since Dec 2006
6842 posts
Posted on 10/26/20 at 5:08 pm to
It is declining in some aspects.

Younger generations are more into other things.

College Football has never been democratic but it gets more top heavy every year. You have individual upsets ocasionally but the race for the NC is actually pretty boring for 95% of America.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14854 posts
Posted on 10/26/20 at 5:10 pm to
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What's your idea?



Hire a better HC!
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41128 posts
Posted on 10/26/20 at 5:12 pm to
It's too late. You can't take the targeting rule away now.
Posted by Slackaveli
Fayetteville
Member since Jul 2017
15163 posts
Posted on 10/26/20 at 5:13 pm to
The cheating refs are hurting the game for sure
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
20331 posts
Posted on 10/26/20 at 5:15 pm to
The bigger well established blue bloods can reload almost immediately. So many players leaving early it is the easier path for 4 & 5 star players to go, play early, and then declare early.

This is the biggest change in college football and basketball in my opinion. A second tier school can have a good year or two but they are probably going to lose key players and they won’t take a snap as a junior. That school probably doesn’t have a 4 or 5 star ready to fill in.

Players being able to leave early has swung things in favor of big well established programs.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53435 posts
Posted on 10/26/20 at 5:16 pm to
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I think it's fine


For us it is. But look at the numbers. College football is at a 24 year LOW. That's not this year. That's 2019.

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FBS attendance dips for sixth straight year to lowest since 1996


That's also the fourth-lowest average nationally since 1982. (The total includes home, neutral site and bowl games.)

Now let's not just say this is not due to the SEC... because the SEC it at it's lowest levels since 2000.

LINK

It's not just attendance either.





Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53435 posts
Posted on 10/26/20 at 5:19 pm to
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Hire a better HC!


And how is that going to change the talent gap?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 10/26/20 at 5:23 pm to
I mean football is certainly in decline. Not sure that's a college issue.

Attendance is in decline, that's because people would much rather watch stuff at home.

As your stats noted, football in general is in decline. And it will continue to be in all likelihood.
Posted by LSUsuperfresh
Member since Oct 2010
8329 posts
Posted on 10/26/20 at 5:24 pm to
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Not having Clemson vs bama every year would go a long way.


Imagine how exciting the West would be this year without Alabama. OU and OSU aren't helping either. The SEC is pretty boring. Alabama mostly likely winning the West any given year with LSU and Auburn with a 20% chance. Everyone else is out from the get-go.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 10/26/20 at 5:28 pm to
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Imagine how exciting the West would be this year without Alabama


Would you consider the 2020 Big XII "exciting"?

The SEC West minus Alabama this season would basically be the SEC West from 1996-2000.
This post was edited on 10/26/20 at 5:30 pm
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53435 posts
Posted on 10/26/20 at 5:30 pm to
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Attendance is in decline, that's because people would much rather watch stuff at home.



That most certainly an issue. One that could be fixed by several things.

- Lower ticket prices.
- Lower concession prices.
- make the game an unknown outcome. That means make the game more competitive.


I believe this to be the starting point.


Remember the 2013 to 2014 years? PEAK. You could see it here. This place is nothing like it was then.

Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18149 posts
Posted on 10/26/20 at 5:30 pm to
Attendance is down 80% around the country. The crowds are terrible. You maybe in to something.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 10/26/20 at 5:30 pm to
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Attendance is down 80% around the country. The crowds are terrible. You maybe in to something.



It's like they don't even WANT people to show up!
Posted by r2d2
Member since Dec 2006
6842 posts
Posted on 10/26/20 at 5:31 pm to
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Not having Clemson vs bama every year would go a long way.


Someone beat them both last year.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53435 posts
Posted on 10/26/20 at 5:32 pm to
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Imagine how exciting the West would be this year without Alabama. OU and OSU aren't helping either. The SEC is pretty boring. Alabama mostly likely winning the West any given year with LSU and Auburn with a 20% chance. Everyone else is out from the get-go.





Yeah, I'm a Bama fan and it's just boring to me. I don't even keep up with recruiting because I know where we are going to be. I look forward to maybe 3 games at this point. LSU, AU, and UGA.

Posted by mulletproof
Shambala
Member since Apr 2013
4672 posts
Posted on 10/26/20 at 5:32 pm to
What he said.... Why are the stands so empty? Is it the refs?..
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53435 posts
Posted on 10/26/20 at 5:34 pm to
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Would you consider the 2020 Big XII "exciting"?



In many ways brother.


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