re: If Bama and Utah both win out, how do you justify Bama over conference champ Utah?

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What is the argument for Bama, in that scenario?

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there isn't one, and the committee would undoubtedly, without question, 100% positively have utah above them.

The better question is why do you think bama is even in consideration?

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Do rent a wins against 1AA schools count?

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As much as Utah's game vs 1AA Idaho State did

Or Oklahoma's vs South Dakota

Or Baylor's vs Stephen F Austin

Or Clemson's vs Wofford

Or LSU's vs Northwestern State

Or Oregon's vs Montana

Or Minnesota's vs South Dakota State

Or Georgia's vs Murray State

bama would make more fans watch tv and bring more fans to where ever the games are played. Why is that a question? They are picking not really the best teams but the best teams who can travel and make people turn on tv sets.

The only shot I see Bama making it in is if LSU wins out, otherwise their season ends in a Jan. 1 bowl game.

Bama is arguably one of the four best teams in college football. I do think if this is going to be an invitational very tough to select a one-loss bama over a one-loss power 5 conference champion.

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So? Bama would probably beat Utah. That would be true even with a loss to Auburn next weekend.

Would you put Bama in over Utah in that case?

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It's not a bad question.

The answer is that "other" criteria the committee looks at like "game control" "advanced metrics" "conference championships" etc only come into play when trying to separate teams with otherwise close resumes.

A 2nd Alabama loss would mean that they are not in consideration to the point where the committee begins to discuss "game control" or "advanced metrics" vis-à-vis Utah.


Just like a hypothetical 2 Loss Oregon is out of the conversation before considering their PAC 12 title.


Just like Auburn may also fare well vs Utah in terms advanced metrics and may be a Vegas favorite on a neutral field but AU is already out of consideration.



That said, I think Utah deservedly would be the 4th team if they win out.

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A loss to 8-4 USC is not a "quality loss".


How many quality wins does Alabama have?

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I don't know, but I would at least imagine Texas A&M would have a better record than 8-4 with USC's schedule.

Now I am not calling A&M a "good" team or not a good team. I'm simply saying that A&M has losses to Clemson, Auburn, Alabama and Georgia. That's three top 5 teams and a top 15 one.

USC's losses are to BYU, Washington, Notre Dame and Oregon. That's two top 15 teams and two unranked ones.

Yet USC is ranked in the top 25 and Texas A&M is not.

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The better question is why do you think bama is even in consideration

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Because they are currently #5. Don't be obtuse.

Because they have dominated their "light" schedule they way you would expect a top 4 team too. They don't struggle win against teams like Texas A&M or lose to South Carolina they beat those teams by 3 + TDs every time.

The eye test obviously is important to this committee and UGA does not impress on the offensive side of the ball.


People acting like who you lose to and how you lost doesn't matter. It matters just as much as who you beat and how you beat them.

Ask Ohio State about that 31 pt loss to
7-5 Iowa or Oklahoma State about that loss to a 7 loss Iowa state team. That was 3-6 in the Big12.

There is no shame in losing to the #1 team with a Heisman winning QB by 5pts especially when your all world QB had ankle surgery 3 weeks prior and had not really practiced. It was a game that Alabama did not play well in, but competed til the end against a great team. When you don't play well against a great team you usually get blown out as Alabama did with Clemson last year. LSU is just not that good on defense.

Bama is better than Utah and UGA that is clear. Georgia doesn't have any Wrs that can get separation and their QB has regressed in an ineffective offensive system.

Why are you comparing Bama to UGA? Bama's fate will not come down to a decision between them and UGA no matter what happens.

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So? Bama would probably beat Utah. That would be true even with a loss to Auburn next weekend.

Would you put Bama in over Utah in that case?

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I would put a 7 loss Bama team in over a zero loss Utah team every year

Alabama is the playoffs