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re: I think the AAF will be huge in 3-5 years.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 11:21 am to bunkerhill
Posted on 2/11/19 at 11:21 am to bunkerhill
I went to several WFL Birmingham Americans games. Attendance was huge at Legion Field, but they could never get a TV deal, so it folded after struggling for a couple of years. Never went to a Birmingham Fire game, but if I recall, they had decent attendance as well. Butts in the seats just isn’t enough.
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Posted on 2/11/19 at 11:30 am to AndyWoods
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Inferior to what, though? The league? They're so tightly wound up, it's no surprise there might be a small drop off of talent. I only saw a lack of talent at QB, though. And it wasn't that bad, as a whole.
I think the problem is that the NFL already has a minor league that has existed for 100 years called college football.
The quality of play of college ball is not comparable to the NFL; however, all future NFL stars play at the college level at some point and even though that is a small percentage of all the players who play football at the collegiate level, the history, pageantry, and personal affiliation fans have for their school makes up for it.
There is zero personal affiliation to the AAF right now, and it's a tough sell given that the roster is made up of players who couldn't make it in the NFL.
I wonder how an 18-21 year olds only league would work that could compete against college football.
The AAF can work as a B-League though I think. Other sports have B-Leagues, including those who have a presence at the collegiate level.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 11:46 am to BulldogXero
College football will never lose its place, but having this as a B league could benefit both CFB and the NFL. Not to mention, it's simply more football to watch. I've watched so many hours of football, I can never seem to get enough. I'd watch the CFL just to hype myself up for the regular American football seasons. This is fantastic, to me.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 11:47 am to DinosaursAreReal
The NFL could easily adapt the AAF as a minor league for developing players. Mandate that the players stay on the minor league team for the full season before moving up to the parent team, establish a standardized pay scale, and use the AAF rules to speed up the game. Any rules changes the NFL wants to consider could be tried in the minors first.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 11:54 am to AlaCowboy
They've already partnered with them, I feel like it will only become better.
EDIT: I'm wrong. See Reply.
EDIT: I'm wrong. See Reply.
This post was edited on 2/12/19 at 10:36 am
Posted on 2/11/19 at 11:58 am to AlaCowboy
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The NFL could easily adapt the AAF as a minor league for developing players
They already have a minor league with CFB and I they'd have to heavily subsidize any developmental league.Just like all other minor leagues in the MLB,NHL and NBA
Posted on 2/11/19 at 12:01 pm to AndyWoods
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They've already partnered with them, I feel like it will only become better.
No they haven't.Why do folks keep saying this?
The NFL hasn't invested anything in the AAF.
The only remote relationship they have is some games on the NFL network
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There’s no investment,” NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy told PFT via email, in response to the question of whether the league or any owners have invested in the AAF. “It’s a programming partnership with the AAF.” The NFL sees a clear benefit in broadcasting 19 AAF games this season. “The AAF provides another opportunity for players, coaches, officials, personnel people to get valuable experience,” McCarthy said. “The AAF, and also the XFL, demonstrate the strength of the game and the health of football as entertainment. They reflect substantial investments and major commitments by serious and credible football and business
This post was edited on 2/11/19 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 2/11/19 at 12:06 pm to AUCE05
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The USFL failed because Trump was jelly, and wanted to go head-to-head with the NFL. It wasn't a product issue.
That's the only way to have one of these leagues succeed though IMO. For instance, minor league baseball teams and G-league basketball leagues only survive because of the subsidies they receive. They would not be able to be self-sufficient. There just isn't any real profitability for a minor league football league in this country. It works in Canada because they don't have any competition. I like the idea of the league and hope it survives, but just like all these other leagues over the years, I just don't see long-term success.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 12:13 pm to BulldogXero
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The quality of play of college ball is not comparable to the NFL; however, all future NFL stars play at the college level at some point and even though that is a small percentage of all the players who play football at the collegiate level, the history, pageantry, and personal affiliation fans have for their school makes up for it.
This is a great point. All NFL stars played college football. The AAF (as well as the XFL, USFL, WFL, etc) is comprised almost mostly of players that were never NFL players or only practice squad type players.
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The AAF can work as a B-League though I think. Other sports have B-Leagues, including those who have a presence at the collegiate level.
sure but those B-leagues also receive subsidies from the MLB and NBA. They wouldn't survive without them.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 12:41 pm to DinosaursAreReal
I spend every Saturday for 3 straight months watching college football. Then I watch a handful of bowl games and the CFP playoffs. Then I watch the NFL conference championships and Super Bowl. Before you know it Spring practices are here, then a few months to enjoy the summer before Fall practices start.
How anyone could feel like they need more football is beyond me.
How anyone could feel like they need more football is beyond me.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 12:42 pm to DinosaursAreReal
I mean, I like the league, but it's more likely to not exist in three to five years than to be huge.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 12:46 pm to Bham Bammer
The only reason I’m optimistic is because they beat out the NBA numbers wise. And it was OKC-HOU so it was a big game. I think it will keep drawing due to being after all other football is over. XFL could take away from it next year though.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 12:48 pm to bunkerhill
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Are any of you old enough to remember the United States Football League? It was a spring league started in early '80s. do any of you remember the World Football League, I think that was the name of it? It played out before the USFL, I believe.
USFL would have survived had they stayed in the spring.
World League came after the USFL and was around for a LONG time, remember NFL Europe?
They had the right idea, just wrong placement.
AAL looks to be working with the NFL as opposed to against it. Actually has real NFL people involved and the games come on NFL stations(CBS, NFL Network)...Its a win/win. Add 4-8 more teams in cities like Portland, Columbus, OH, OKC, Vegas if the Raiders don't come....they'll survive and thrive.
This post was edited on 2/11/19 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 2/11/19 at 12:50 pm to Jon Ham
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Before you know it Spring practices are here,
That's just practice, you do know that right?
Posted on 2/11/19 at 12:51 pm to lsufball19
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The USFL actually had legit players like Reggie White and Herschel.
Jim Kelly, etc.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 12:51 pm to thirdlawson
Following the happenings of your favorite CFB team’s practices > random collection of semi pros and washed up coaches play a few “games.”
Posted on 2/11/19 at 1:00 pm to Jon Ham
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Following the happenings of your favorite CFB team’s practices > random collection of semi pros and washed up coaches play a few “games.”
UNLESS that team is Arkansas...
Posted on 2/11/19 at 1:03 pm to DinosaursAreReal
What are the rules for players coming straight out of high school and going to the AAF?
Posted on 2/11/19 at 1:14 pm to thirdlawson
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USFL would have survived had they stayed in the spring.
Wrong,their spring attendance numbers were dismal in their last year LINK
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World League came after the USFL and was around for a LONG time, remember NFL Europe?
The world league folded after about 2 years and the rebranded and moved to all European (NFL Europe) and the only reason it lasted was because the NFL picked up the players and coaches salary...they wont do that again.
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they'll survive and thrive.
Not without subsidies from the NFL.
This post was edited on 2/11/19 at 1:21 pm
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