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re: I think the AAF will be huge in 3-5 years.

Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:10 am to
Posted by AndyWoods
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Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:10 am to
I, too, would enjoy seeing this thing go the distance and become part of the annual normal. I watched two full games, and highlights of the others. If this is the only football on, right now, it's the best thing on TV.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64469 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:15 am to
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Are any of you old enough to remember the United States Football League?

The USFL actually had legit players like Reggie White and Herschel.
Posted by Realistic Ag
Member since Jun 2014
1894 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:16 am to
Do you think they will go after high level high school or college players not yet eligible for the NFL? Are they allowed to?
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27291 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:27 am to
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Or everyone will forget about it in 4 weeks.


This is the correct answer.

Lets take a look at what happened to all those successful pro football leagues in the last 40 years.

WFL: Failed
USFL:Failed
Arena League:Failed
NFL Europe:Failed
XFL: Failed

Give it time and it will meet the same fate
Posted by RolltidePA
North Carolina
Member since Dec 2010
3467 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:28 am to
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Are any of you old enough to remember the United States Football League? It was a spring league started in early '80s. do any of you remember the World Football League, I think that was the name of it? It played out before the USFL, I believe.

They both are now answers to trivia questions.


Weren't the Birmingham Americans the champions of the WFL? Seems like Birmingham has hosted every second-tier league in history. WFL, CFL, XFL now the AAF. The USFL probably would have worked if they kept it a spring league, they decided to go toe to toe with the NFL with a somewhat immature product. I actually went to see the Pittsburgh Maulers plat the Houston Gamblers when I was 8 or 9, it wasn't bad. There were actually a couple of Hall of Famers on the field that day. Jim Kelly played for the Gamblers.

That said, this league has a glimmer of hope for a couple of reasons. First is that the league is run by people who are legitimate in NFL circles; they have high-level ex-college coaches and well regarded NFL-level coordinators. Second is that the NFL knows it needs a league like this; ever since the World League or NFL Europe closed up shop there hasn't been a developmental league, so there is related support there. Also from watching a little, the quality of the game isn't as bad as other leagues have been. There actually seems to be quality timing and some precision to the play. Finally, there is some support from the media and some effort to produce a polished product. None of this ever happened in any of the other leagues.

Long story short, if they stay true to their principles, be a developmental league, innovate the gameplay and do things right that we all know are wrong with the NFL they have a chance. They've also timed their season well, just in time for front office guys to have a look or second look at some players before they go into the draft and camp.

A million reasons this could all fizzle, but this league has a lot more going for it than some of the others that have gone by the wayside.
This post was edited on 2/11/19 at 10:29 am
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64469 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:28 am to
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Do you think they will go after high level high school or college players not yet eligible for the NFL?

I think that would make a lot of sense for them, but who knows.
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Are they allowed to?

Why wouldn't they be allowed to?
This post was edited on 2/11/19 at 10:29 am
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27291 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:29 am to
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Are they allowed to?


No,same draft rules as the NFL
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27291 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:32 am to
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Why wouldn't they be allowed to?


Because the league says they won't

If they change their charter I guess they could do it
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64469 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:34 am to
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Seems like Birmingham has hosted every second-tier league in history. WFL, CFL, XFL now the AAF.

So has Memphis

Showboats - USFL
Mad Dogs - CFL
Maniaxx - XFL
Southmen - WFL
Express - AAF
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64469 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:35 am to
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If they change their charter I guess they could do it

That’s what I meant. There is no law that would prevent them from changing their own bylaws to allow younger players.
Posted by Big Balls
Texas
Member since Nov 2014
845 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:35 am to
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No,same draft rules as the NFL



One thing to also keep in mind is that the XFL won't have this rule when they start up next year. They will even take players straight from high school.

If the XFL takes themselves as seriously as the AAF seems to and the production is as well done, they might kill the AAF before it even gets started.
This post was edited on 2/11/19 at 10:36 am
Posted by Realistic Ag
Member since Jun 2014
1894 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:38 am to
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One thing to also keep in mind is that the XFL won't have this rule when they start up next year. They will even take players straight from high school.

Yeah, I heard an interview with Oliver Luck and he mentioned that's something they would do in the XFL. I hadn't researched the AAF regarding that aspect though.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27291 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:42 am to
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One thing to also keep in mind is that the XFL won't have this rule when they start up next year. They will even take players straight from high school.


Oliver Luck On the XFL draft.He said nothing about taking HS
players and dont think they will

quote:

Nor would I rule out taking a player who played a year of college football and let’s say isn’t eligible academically, which happens. Or a player who is two years out of college, and is transferring, and would have to sit out a year. A lot of guys don’t want to.... We are in that position to be able to take players who wouldn’t be eligible to play in the NFL. “But that’s an option that we have and we’re going to look at it long and hard. There are a lot of very good college players after a year or two who may not want to play that third year of college football, may need to earn a little money, support the family. That’s not uncommon as well.”
This post was edited on 2/11/19 at 2:17 pm
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42557 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 11:04 am to
The USFL failed because Trump was jelly, and wanted to go head-to-head with the NFL. It wasn't a product issue.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27291 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 11:07 am to
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It wasn't a product issue.




It failed because the ratings sucked and nobody was going to the games.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42557 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 11:09 am to
Birmingham averaged almost 40k per game during the prime year of the league.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30814 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 11:11 am to
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I hope not, why would it fall off so quickly?


Because it's a vastly inferior product.
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
12617 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 11:15 am to
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I think that would make a lot of sense for them, but who knows


Why? The leagues whole selling point to me was regionally allocating the players based on region.

I have no interest in watching some random 5 star play just because he's good. I'd rather see players I know.
Posted by AndyWoods
Middle
Member since Oct 2018
1131 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 11:15 am to
Inferior to what, though? The league? They're so tightly wound up, it's no surprise there might be a small drop off of talent. I only saw a lack of talent at QB, though. And it wasn't that bad, as a whole.
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
12617 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 11:17 am to
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The USFL failed because Trump was jelly, and wanted to go head-to-head with the NFL. It wasn't a product issue


This is wrong. Seven of the leagues franchises went under before the USFL's planned fall move.

Moving the schedule to the fall was just to make their lawsuit look better. I don't think they actually ever planned on moving to the fall.

You think the league was making money, and all the owners were just like, "Oh let's follow Trump into a place we can't compete." The ESPN 30 for 30 is just a butthurt former Trump employee.
This post was edited on 2/11/19 at 11:21 am
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