re: How would you rank the top 5 CFB programs in the SEC

OU is as blue blood as it gets, Bama has the edge with the recent Saban success.

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We have a very bad history when population in Florida was very low

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It had more to do with having Steve Spurrier and Urban Meyer as coaches than it did population. If anything, Urban’s teams shrunk the population.

For the last five years Florida has had ongoing record population yet the Florida Gators have had a losing record in four of those five seasons. Not since Urban has Florida been consistently good. That was 15 years ago - when Florida’s population was 5 million less than it is now. To put that in perspective Florida added more people during that time than the following states had in total population in 2025: Louisiana, Arkansas. Mississippi, Oklahoma, and Kentucky. It has not helped their football program.

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even without Saban, Bama is in a class of their own with Bear Bryant, Gene stallings, frank thomas, and Wallace wade. OU is nowhere near Bama

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Agreed

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Because no one questions an AP title. I am going off the unanimously agreed on titles. Its not that complicated. To say LSU has 4 titles means including their disputed 2003 title. If LSU gets to include disputed titles then so does Tennessee.

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Yeah, you've lost any reasoning there and it's going to troll level.

The AP and UPI were considered the top polls, to rank teams. The BCS poll was created, and used not just to rank teams, but to pair up teams for a title game. The AP was part of, but not the only, part of the BCS poll... but once the title game is played, the polls are secondary. The accepted champ is the winner of the BCS game. Just as now the accepted champ is the winner of the CFB playoff. If Tulane (ranked very low) had won, they would be champs. Doesn't matter what any poll says one way or the other, the title is now decided on the field.

Um...population meant shite when you could not legally pay recruits..it is very much like you are trying to ignore very obvious things...Now it is not about location now, it is about who will pay the most.

Weird how all Florida schools sucked till the 80s..wonder what happened, could it?? Oh that is right, the population increased

Let me help you, you will prob ignore this because you are..well you will ignore it because it makes your point very invalid.

Also keep in mind Florida has 3 programs with multiple national titles in the modern age. We are not like LSU, we actually have schools in the State that have won titles in the modern age.

Very basic logic.

Florida population:
1970: 6.79
1980: 9.8
1990: 12.9
2000: 15.9
2010: 18.5
2020: 21.5

A logical person would easily connect the dots.....but you seem like you struggle to play 5 year olds in Chess.

Claiming and winning are two different things. Oklahoma can lay claim to 2003 and 2008 because of minor selectors but we all know they didn’t win the title.

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LSU or UF(which are so so equal in SEC, Natties, etc it is insane)

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Isn't the all-time series equal in wins? Would have to verify but it's close.

Another great SEC rivalry that lost out to stoopid expansion.

Sounds like you agree that using claimed mythical titles shouldn't be used as criteria then.

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LSU has 3 AP titles

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Actually LSU has AP titles in 1958
BCS Titles in 2003 and 2007
Playoff title in 2019

Hey, both programs have had great years and absolutely dominated in some years.

I miss it too but it definitely wasn't my favorite.