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re: How will Jimbo explain this to the media?

Posted on 6/30/22 at 11:38 am to
Posted by Windy City
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 6/30/22 at 11:38 am to
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How pissed off do you think Jimbo is right now with this video coming out lol.


Probably not at all.

I really don't want to buy into the stereotype of Southerners as slaw-jacked yokels that are always slow on the uptake but this board gives me pause.

At this point, almost every school around the country has built collectives that are advertising guaranteed NIL money on an annual basis to any recruit that commits.

If any butthurt emanates from this board, it is that many SEC schools perfected the old school cheating and that whole dynamic was blown up by a system that allow for market like competition for services. Rather than get with the program (as Nick Saban was begging for donor NIL dollars on video the other day) so many fanbases want to cry and hope the old backroom deals are reinstituted.

Wake the F#$k Up!!! The world has changed. Maybe it changes back (probably not) but until then go with the new rules.
Posted by Olderthandirt
Member since May 2022
559 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 11:39 am to
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Probably not at all.

I really don't want to buy into the stereotype of Southerners as slaw-jacked yokels that are always slow on the uptake but this board gives me pause.

At this point, almost every school around the country has built collectives that are advertising guaranteed NIL money on an annual basis to any recruit that commits.

If any butthurt emanates from this board, it is that many SEC schools perfected the old school cheating and that whole dynamic was blown up by a system that allow for market like competition for services. Rather than get with the program (as Nick Saban was begging for donor NIL dollars on video the other day) so many fanbases want to cry and hope the old backroom deals are reinstituted.

Wake the F#$k Up!!! The world has changed. Maybe it changes back (probably not) but until then go with the new rules.




I am just glad the coaches of the other 13 SEC schools are not rape enablers.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30212 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 11:40 am to
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As long as the boosters are doing it through a collective then they’re not doing anything wrong.

Which would also technically make his statement true - the players are getting paid by boosters (legally).

A representative of a member school (boosters) can not be involved in the recruitment of a prospect nor can they offer inducements to the prospect in exchange for the signature of the prospect at the member school. This has always been a NCAA rule.
This post was edited on 6/30/22 at 11:44 am
Posted by Windy City
Member since Jun 2019
1718 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 11:40 am to
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Lol everyone that thinks this is a story doesn’t understand how NIL collectives work.

What are NIL Collectives and how do they operate?

As long as the boosters are doing it through a collective then they’re not doing anything wrong.

Which would also technically make his statement true - the players are getting paid by boosters (legally).


No s%^t . . . .we are way past the point of Bama players riding to practice in $80,000 cars or LSU paying recruits parents.
This post was edited on 6/30/22 at 11:42 am
Posted by Grateful Reb
Member since Apr 2011
8070 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 11:43 am to
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A school-specific NIL Collective is typically made up of deep-pocketed fans and alumni, and they are run independently of the school that they are affiliated with. They work by pooling funds from a wide swath of donors and businesses to create NIL activities for a school’s student-athletes.


^^^^ this is legal.

So what the aTm coach said could technically be both legal and true.
Posted by Pastor Mike
Florida
Member since Dec 2020
5112 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 11:45 am to
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this is legal.

Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
7797 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 11:47 am to
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Lol everyone that thinks this is a story doesn’t understand how NIL collectives work.


No one is talking about the NIL deals themselves.

The point is that NIL deals are supposed to come AFTER a player enrolls in a school and not be used as a comparative recruiting tool.

The most serious accusation against A&M is that they gave detailed (price figure) and "guaranteed" NIL offers to recruits.


This video doesn't go that far but is a violation nonetheless of "using NIL to recruit" and comes out right after one of the biggest stories in college football has been Fisher's adamant denials that A&M has used NIL as a recruiting tool.

This post was edited on 6/30/22 at 11:50 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94992 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 11:47 am to
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What kind of adult has his Frat listed in his profile
Subtle way of saying you don’t associate with black people
Posted by Hawglicious
Arkansas River Valley
Member since Jan 2022
945 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 11:47 am to
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Probably not at all. I really don't want to buy into the stereotype of Southerners as slaw-jacked yokels that are always slow on the uptake but this board gives me pause.


Probably best to not try and justify your coaches denial of all of this. You’re busted, and now we all get to laugh at that.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68302 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 11:48 am to
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Probably not at all.

the guy was having meltdowns about other coaches Saying he bought his recruiting class, then this comes out.

He's going to come down on that dude hilariously bad. He just made him look stupid.

I cant imagine living in the kind of denial A&M fans do.
This post was edited on 6/30/22 at 11:49 am
Posted by Pastor Mike
Florida
Member since Dec 2020
5112 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 11:50 am to
Posted by Texas Gentleman
Texas
Member since Sep 2015
2619 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 11:50 am to
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^^^^ this is legal.

So what the aTm coach said could technically be both legal and true.


Saying the rich people up in the suites will pay out a lot in NIL dollars isn't an enticement, it's just stating facts. Other schools use NIL just as we do.

That is very different than publically saying here is what we will pay for you to come here, or specifically saying here is your gaurentee for X/year if you come play here.
Posted by Byrdybyrd05
Member since Nov 2014
25711 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 11:50 am to
Best believe Sankey called Jimbo and said don’t you dare do another press conference lol
Posted by SneezyBeltranIsHere
Member since Jul 2021
2455 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 11:51 am to
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Saying the rich people up in the suites will pay out a lot in NIL dollars isn't an enticement, it's just stating facts. Other schools use NIL just as we do.


Other schools don't deny this happens. Jimbo denies this happens.....get it?
Posted by Olderthandirt
Member since May 2022
559 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 11:53 am to
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Texas Gentleman


This post was edited on 6/30/22 at 11:54 am
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30212 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 11:55 am to
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A school-specific NIL Collective is typically made up of deep-pocketed fans and alumni, and they are run independently of the school that they are affiliated with. They work by pooling funds from a wide swath of donors and businesses to create NIL activities for a school’s student-athletes.

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^^^^ this is legal.
I understand what comprises an NIL Collective. I simply point to the fact that the NCAA has had a long standing rule in place that has nothing to do with the SCOTUS NIL ruling. It is perfectly legal and allowable to for an NIL collective to negotiate an name, image, likeness contract with a student athlete.

The NCAA does not allow a representative of a member school (boosters) to be involved with recruitment or offer an inducement to a prospective student-athlete in exchange for the signature with the member school. NIL collectives can not be involved in the recruitment process.

Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93670 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 11:55 am to
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How will Jimbo explain this to the media?

Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65697 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 11:57 am to
I bet the Revs are rolling over and playing dead in their graves today.



Time to go back to mutts.
Posted by Texas Gentleman
Texas
Member since Sep 2015
2619 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 11:57 am to
Jimbo denied buying the whole class. He never once said we dont use NIL
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30212 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 12:00 pm to
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Saying the rich people up in the suites will pay out a lot in NIL dollars isn't an enticement, it's just stating facts. Other schools use NIL just as we do.
Has any other coach held an emergency press conference + a 2 part mini-series (with school administrators coaching him in the background) denying his program does this?
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