re: How much cheating actually goes on in the SEC?

I don't think the good ol' fashioned, institutionalized cheating with a Special Asst. Coach and a bagman working together happens much anymore.
It's more sophisticated now. High profile schools don't have to reach out with bagmen. They have networks of contacts that know how to take care of recruiting areas. Handlers have taken the place of bagmen.
The only egregious acts now are when a school steps outside of their footprint, like OM did.

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All I know is that the $100 handshakes are very real and very frequent.

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Yep and not even hidden

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Ok,please spew some "facts" to us.

I hear this stuff constantly on hear but little if any 1st hand stories or corroberration

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I saw things and heard it from guys direct, which was also corroborated by things they had

Stuff I saw. Booster's son was his roommate. They left cash on the table for him to use and anything he wanted in the house was provided, big screens, games, electronics, guns, etc... I knew both independently and the booster is a friend of my dad. School got by with just the roommate aspect of living with a booster's kid because it was "preexisting". They didnt know each other until mid freshman year when he moved in. Not SEC. Another got about 20k to visit and sign.

In the SEC, kid got cashiers check from coach for around 30k and proceeded to pimp out a gold ford taurus . Mom got monthly checks as well, but like $200 or so.

track player got hundreds to a few thousand for placing at events, yes track. was a booster, not a coach. but he said coaches just turned a blind eye

These were all fairly recruited guys though. I knew some others that never saw a thing.


At AU, I interacted with some players because of my job. Never had anyone tell me anything direct. But two guys who went into the NFL always had big stacks of cash. A lot of times hangers-on paid for everything, but kind of different.

There is cheating and then there is real cheating.

The basic cheating has been absorbed as “cost of doing business”, the excessive “real” cheating is dealing with the agents, paying for visits, 5 digits for signing.

Most if not all programs take care of the kids when they get on campus & that’s what I classify as basic.

Without question the SEC programs take it to the next level and far beyond other conferences.

Before you freak out on that, the reason is the level of talent and culture in the heart of SEC recruiting territories. Elite players from all over the nation get “next level” treatment, but it’s across the board in the southeast.

I don’t see it as a difference making issue, for the most part these are kids destined to end up on a SEC campus regardless and it’s essentially intraconference cannibalism.

My Horns for example, there is 5-7 studs every year in state we never get & it’s due to the street agent game. Move on, nothing you can do & you have plenty of other options.

If a few SEC programs wanna duke it out over a kid that lives and is playing his ball in the southeast, God bless them.. we have no shot regardless.

An example I have seen in person. Was at a casino within the SEC footprint several years ago. 8-10 players from a particular school were there. A couple were very recognizable guys if you follow SEC football. They looked like they brought a couple hundred bucks each. A booster who seemed to be pretty well off was there with his wife and recognized a couple of the players. He sat down next to them for a few hours and played BJ. This guy was playing two or three hundred dollar hands. He would play a two or three hundred dollar hand and when he would get something like 20 against 6 he would ask one of the players what to do. They would say stand obviously. He would win his $300 then slide it over to them and say good call on that hand.

One player walked out of there with a couple grand in chips.

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an actual pacific case

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Pearl Harbor for example

It's not who or how much cheating, it's what schools can get away with it or not.

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Devil Rapists

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Flat out stupid

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Its funny how you yourself admits an actual pacific case of cheating like Cam but you throw out a broad bs claim like the REC on us cause you got nothing on us. We don't need to cheat. We got Saban.

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GD... did you really just type "pacific" in place of specific? I know people do that in speech, but I've never seen it in text format.