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re: How good is Mac Jones
Posted on 12/31/20 at 9:11 pm to Che Boludo
Posted on 12/31/20 at 9:11 pm to Che Boludo
Jones has to finish the season strong to have this discussion. However, he and Alabama are poised to objectively surpass Burrow and LSU for the best offense in the history of CFB if they perform at the level they've done all season.
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Posted on 12/31/20 at 9:12 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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(and a ND team I think is going to fight us to their death)
luckily for you, Najee is going to deliver that death about 3/4 of the way through the second quarter
This post was edited on 12/31/20 at 9:18 pm
Posted on 12/31/20 at 9:19 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I’m just gonna be honest with ya. If Bama pulls it off and wins it all this year I think this will be the most satisfying title Bama will have won in my lifetime. The first one Saban won I was happy and fired up for. It was a great feeling. The title in 92 I was jumping over the moon. It was the first title Bama had won in my lifetime I was old enough to understand what was going on. It goes down as the best I felt after Bama won a title. But this year if Bama pulls it off will be like no other. After such a frustrating year all around in all aspects of life with all the Covid junk I think it would be such a awesome feeling just to celebrate and be happy about something good coming out of 2020 no matter what it is.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 9:24 pm to Dawgy49
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We all thought Kyle Trask was great until we seen him without his top 3 receivers.
No QB is great going into a game with a week or less of practice time with their entire WR corps
Posted on 12/31/20 at 9:32 pm to viceman
quote:I love those creepy looking MJ gifs
viceman
Posted on 12/31/20 at 9:32 pm to droliver
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objectively surpass
Weak SEC this year. Objectively, you'd need to account for strength of schedule. The "10-game conference schedule" argument is nonsense when you consider the teams in the conference this year.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 9:37 pm to droliver
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Jones has to finish the season strong to have this discussion. However, he and Alabama are poised to objectively surpass Burrow and LSU for the best offense in the history of CFB if they perform at the level they've done all season.
The best QB in the history of college football and a heisman trophy winning WR
No one will ever top it folks
Posted on 12/31/20 at 9:51 pm to Terrific Tales
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Burrow didn’t have a bunch of SEC cupcakes to pad his
Burrow had a 6 td game vs Vandy. Not tying to argue his season was overrated or anything close to that, but your statement is clearly false.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 9:58 pm to Che Boludo
Jones almost always has a clean pocket and throws to receivers who don’t have a defender within 5 yards a lot of the time. I’ll give him his props but a lot of guys would look good in his situation.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 9:58 pm to Crimson K
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Burrow had a 6 td game vs Vandy. Not tying to argue his season was overrated or anything close to that, but your statement is clearly false.
So the amount of td passes indicates a cupcake? Was oklahoma a cupcake? He threw 7 against them while ranked #4....
Also ran for another....
Not saying you're wrong, you just need to pick another metric to use when trying to prove this point.
This post was edited on 12/31/20 at 10:05 pm
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:03 pm to im4LSU
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So the amount of td passes indicates a cupcake? Was oklahoma a cupcake? He threw 7 against them while ranked #4....
Are you honestly trying to argue that Vandy is not a cupcake team? And that passing for 6 tds against a cupcake of a team is not stat padding? OU has frick all to do with the statement that LSU did not play any cupcake SEC teams.
That does not diminish an amazing game against the Sooners in the least.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:05 pm to Crimson K
Don’t confuse things with the facts man.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:05 pm to Crimson K
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Are you honestly trying to argue that Vandy is not a cupcake team
Why don't you finish reading my post champ.
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And that passing for 6 tds against a cupcake of a team is not stat padding?
I'm saying you can't solely use the amount of td passes to classify a team as a cupcake. Burrow made everyone look silly last year. If just because he had 6 tds against 1 team means he's "stat padding" why doesn't 7 tds against another mean the same?
This post was edited on 12/31/20 at 10:09 pm
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:08 pm to im4LSU
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Why don't you finish reading my post champ.
Well, you edited after I responded, so that makes it a little difficult take into account.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:12 pm to Crimson K
Well you've read it now....
Y'all like to drum up this "stat padding" against cupcakes but what y'all fail to realize is that his numbers were actually better against the P5 teams.
Y'all like to drum up this "stat padding" against cupcakes but what y'all fail to realize is that his numbers were actually better against the P5 teams.
This post was edited on 12/31/20 at 10:15 pm
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:14 pm to GeauxLSU4
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Jones almost always has a clean pocket and throws to receivers who don’t have a defender within 5 yards a lot of the time. I’ll give him his props but a lot of guys would look good in his situation.
And Burrow no doubt was always throwing to receivers in tight, double coverage.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:21 pm to Crimson K
My statement said a bunch. Vanderbilt was an SEC cupcake last year. I said Burrow didn’t have a bunch of SEC cupcakes
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:22 pm to Che Boludo
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armytide373
You’ve baited a bunch of LSU fans, but a gorgeous deep ball was never the strength of Burrow’s game.
Using balls over 30 yards in the air is really odd stat as well. I believe you when you say you saw the stat on ESPN, but it’s not something that gets thrown around a ton. Stats on passes >20 air yards, though, are available via SECStatCat:
Passes >20 air yards:
F. Franks - 15/25, 60.0%, 7 TD, 0 INT
M. Corral - 28/47, 59.6%, 8 TD, 5 INT
M. Jones - 26/47, 55.3%, 15 TD, 2 INT
M. Brennan - 10/19, 52.6%, 6 TD, 2 INT
K. Trask - 32/61, 52.5%%, 14 TD, 1 INT
Here were Burrow’s stats >20 air yards against SEC teams in 2019, for reference:
J. Burrow - 24/45, 53.3%, 14 TD, 2 INT
All of that said - yes, Mac throws a gorgeous deep ball. Burrow’s strengths have always been his decision making, accuracy, and pocket presence.
Here are the stats for all passes, again filtering by SEC opponents only:
M. Jones ‘20 - 250/326, 76.7%, 32 TD, 4 INT
J. Burrow ‘19 - 240/311, 77.2%, 32 TD, 3 INT
Lastly, here’s the difference between SEC defensive averages, in SEC play only, between 2019 and 2020:
Stat - 2019 / 2020
Opp. passing yards/game - 222.0 / 261.4
Opp. yards per pass - 6.29 / 6.92
Opp. TD% - 4.42% / 4.93%
In 2019 the average completion percentage in the SEC was 58.4%. In 2020 it was 64.8%. In 2019 there were 4 QBs completing >60% of their passes in SEC play. In 2020 there were 16.
This post was edited on 12/31/20 at 10:48 pm
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:31 pm to RollTide1987
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And Burrow no doubt was always throwing to receivers in tight, double coverage.
Not what I’m saying at all. Joe had to make things happen a lot when things broke down around him. That’s part of what made him so special. I rarely if ever see Jones doing that. Credit his o line. He never gets touched.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:31 pm to lostinbr
Wow
By looking at the statistics it almost seems as though Burrow outperformed Jones against what appears to be better defenses....
I was told by that "Rolling" lady that Jones had the better numbers... Hmmm
By looking at the statistics it almost seems as though Burrow outperformed Jones against what appears to be better defenses....
I was told by that "Rolling" lady that Jones had the better numbers... Hmmm
This post was edited on 12/31/20 at 10:33 pm
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