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re: How good is Mac Jones

Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:32 pm to
Posted by GeauxTigers1410
Member since Sep 2020
1342 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:32 pm to
I think Mac is having a heck of a year.

But burrow did just as much "stat packing" in the playoffs as he did against the cupcakes.

Utah St/Northwestern St/Ga Southern: 373 yds/game 14 total touchdowns

Georgia/oklahoma/Clemson 435 yards/game 18 total tocchdowns.

Burrow also had 368 rushing yards to Jones -9

184 of those rushing yards were against Bama, georgia, Oklahoma, and Clemson for the "stat packing" crowd.
Posted by im4LSU
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2004
31941 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:34 pm to
Thats really going to bother this crowd
Posted by topcat88
Member since Nov 2015
4079 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:34 pm to
Best QB based on what? . Burrow beats him in ever category. Jones could have four more games and still need 8 TDS a game to match burrows td record.
Posted by GeauxLSU4
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2012
10544 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:40 pm to
Jones is a good player, but people who actually believe he’s better than burrow are either biased or complete fools. As I said earlier, Jones has ideal conditions in almost every game. He rarely gets pressured, almost never gets sacked, can lean on a dominant running game, and has receivers torching DB’s all over the field. I’d venture to say lots of guys would look good in his position.
Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
10568 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:41 pm to
With an OL and WR corps like Bama has it's hard to judge just how good he is, but I do believe he will succeed on the next level if he can land in the right spot. Going early as a QB is almost always a curse sans money on the front end.
This post was edited on 12/31/20 at 10:42 pm
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18201 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 11:50 pm to
Lol... so, back on topic, how about that 30 yd+ deep ball accuracy?

Mac is still looking like GOAT and has GOAT efficiency rating with best Yards per attempt since Murray.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18201 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 11:59 pm to
Don't disagree at all
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64610 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 12:11 am to
quote:

Burrow had a 6 td game vs Vandy.

He also had a 14 TDs in the playoffs. He shredded everyone.
This post was edited on 1/1/21 at 12:39 am
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75855 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 12:14 am to
quote:

He shredded everyone.


He didn't shred Auburn.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64610 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 12:38 am to
He had 350 yards and 2TDs. If that’s the best you can come up with to tell me he didn’t shred everyone, then bless your heart
Posted by GeauxTigers1410
Member since Sep 2020
1342 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 1:10 am to
He has a heck of a long ball. And his 33 total touchdowns are a really darn good solid number.

Heck, if he did that over 20 games, he'd be close but still about 5 short of burrow's total touchdowns.

22 games he'd get there.
This post was edited on 1/1/21 at 1:14 am
Posted by stho381
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
4628 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 2:41 am to
Mac Jones is a good college QB.

Here's why his performance this year will be forgotten in 2 years:

1) He's playing behind arguably the best OL in CFB history. 10 sacks allowed on Jones all year says it all. By comparison, Burrow was sacked 34 times.

2) He basically only throws the ball to one WR. Smith is his go to guy and he is not guardable. He was the best WR on Bama last year and he's better this year. He should win the Heisman and it shouldn't be close. He has twice as many receptions as the next guys on the team and twice as many yards.

3) The best passing defense he faced all year (so far) is Kentucky at #48 in the country, which is just above the likes of Southern Miss and UTSA. By comparison, Burrow last year faced at least 6 teams with better pass defenses.


So, best WR in the country and Heisman front-runner, best OL arguably of all time, and playing a schedule filled with terrible passing defenses, is inflating the perception of how good he is. I think you could take at least a dozen different QBs and put them in his position and you would see the same type of production and stats. He is a good QB, not great. He's a better prospect than Fields and Trask, but not close to Lawrence this year in the draft, imho.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 2:44 am to
quote:

Here's why his performance this year will be forgotten in 2 years:




Here's why it won't:

55-17
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 4:50 am to
quote:

He has outperformed Murray, Tua, and Burrow in the stat category.

Secstatcat doesn't show 30-plus in-air yards. But they do show 20-plus...

Jones '20 - 26 of 47 - 55.32% - 15 TD - 2 INT - long throws per game - 4.2

Burrow '19 - 41 of 73 - 56.16% - 23 TD - 2 INT - long throws per game - 4.86
This post was edited on 1/1/21 at 4:59 am
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 6:41 am to
All that shows is Mac didn't benefit from playing FBS teams like Burro.
Posted by im4LSU
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2004
31941 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 6:44 am to
quote:

All that shows is Mac didn't benefit from playing FBS teams like Burro.


Again, try to keep up. Burrow didnt "benefit" from playing the FBS teams. They actually brought his numbers down. How many times does this have to be explained...

quote:

Utah St/Northwestern St/Ga Southern: 373 yds/game 14 total touchdowns

Georgia/oklahoma/Clemson 435 yards/game 18 total tocchdowns.


I know. Its hard to understand and wrap your head around. It goes agains logic. Thats why he stands head and shoulders above the rest.
This post was edited on 1/1/21 at 6:46 am
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 6:46 am to
14 TDs and he didn't benefit
Posted by im4LSU
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2004
31941 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 6:51 am to
Your logic is that because he played bad FBS teams, his numbers are artificially inflated. Thats the point you are trying to make.

The numbers show thats not the case. He performed better against the best teams on his schedule. How is this hard for you to understand?

I know its tough when reality begins to set in, but you'll be fine.
This post was edited on 1/1/21 at 6:52 am
Posted by Herman Frisco
Bon Secour
Member since Sep 2008
17271 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 7:02 am to
If he was as good as you say he would not have taken whole games off against anyone.
How did he do in the 4th quarter?
Mack was on the bench in the 4th for the most part.
Saban would not let him pad his stats like O did.
Posted by stho381
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
4628 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 7:18 am to
Nah, that game will be forgotten after next year’s. Too much outside issue with this game. Reschedule because COVID....opt outs the week before...no crowd in BR.

Next year will at least be normal again. This year just has a big “ * “.
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