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Posted on 3/27/23 at 12:36 pm to JayAg
These schools have other priorities, great coaches, top facilities, and some recruits prefer to attend traditional basketball schools instead of living in the shadows of mediocre football teams…
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Posted on 3/27/23 at 3:26 pm to JayAg
Posted on 3/27/23 at 3:26 pm to redeye
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Big East Coaches
Butler - Thad Matta
Connecticut - Dan Hurley
Creighton - Greg McDermott
DePaul - Tony Stubble
Georgetown - Ed Cooley
Marquette - Shaka Smart
Providence - Kim English
Seton Hall - Shaheen Holloway
St. John’s - Rick Pitino
Villanova - Kyle Neptune
Xavier - Sean Miller
The Big East is loaded. Those teams are always in the tourney it seems. I also didn’t know Rick Pitino was back.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 6:22 pm to JayAg
This year it seems like the best left a team is, the further they went.
Those Miami guys are older than most G-league rosters.
San Diego State looked like 30 year old men.
Those Miami guys are older than most G-league rosters.
San Diego State looked like 30 year old men.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 6:24 pm to JayAg
Could also be the fact these teams have more players staying around building a team with great chemistry instead of one and done schools.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 6:34 pm to BurgTiger
quote:They also don't have to fund football programs.
Marquette, Nova, Georgetown, Providence, all spend more than every SEC team in basketball except for Bama and Kentucky who were top 5.
With the exception of the schools like Kansas, Duke, Kentucky, UNC, etc..., the general rule of thumb for athletic departments is that MBB breaks even, and the profits from football go to fund football and every non-revenue sport.
When you don't have football to get the revenue to fund the other sports, you have to invest in MBB. The schools you mentioned all have gone that route.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 6:45 pm to JayAg
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Field better teams than P5’s?? I mean, how do the Memphis, UConns, Georgetown, Gonzaga’s, Xavier’s, etc. get all the best talent? I wish I understood what I’m missing. Do they have better coaching or players, or both?
That is for Texas A&M administration to figured that out.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 6:46 pm to JayAg
Basketball is not as expensive as football to operate so mid-majors have found major profits from minimum investments, creating more of an even playing field in the sport.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 7:19 pm to JayAg
People underestimate the talent rich areas of the metro northeast. Philly, NYC, Boston, the DC area, all are loaded with schoolyard players that are just off the charts.
UConn has 3 players from Brooklyn, 3 from Boston and like 2 from the Greater DC area. Frank McGuire put UNC basketball on the map recruiting strictly the NYC area. He had all 5 starters one year that had played against other in NYC city high schools. Jim Valvano did the same when he went NC state. Derek Wittenburg and Sydney Lowe were from DC. Thurl Bailey was from Boston. Rick Pitino went and got Jamall Mashburn from the Bronx.
I was sitting in a bar in the Philly airport a few years ago and a football coach with Temple gear on came and sit beside me and we started talking ball. He was flying to B'ham and hitting Bama, GA and Florida over the next two weeks and he said "we have to get into the south".
All American basketball players from the metro northeast areas are a different level just like in football. A high school all american from the south is gonna be a much superior player to an all american from Massachussets or NYC. Its so much more culture than people realize
UConn has 3 players from Brooklyn, 3 from Boston and like 2 from the Greater DC area. Frank McGuire put UNC basketball on the map recruiting strictly the NYC area. He had all 5 starters one year that had played against other in NYC city high schools. Jim Valvano did the same when he went NC state. Derek Wittenburg and Sydney Lowe were from DC. Thurl Bailey was from Boston. Rick Pitino went and got Jamall Mashburn from the Bronx.
I was sitting in a bar in the Philly airport a few years ago and a football coach with Temple gear on came and sit beside me and we started talking ball. He was flying to B'ham and hitting Bama, GA and Florida over the next two weeks and he said "we have to get into the south".
All American basketball players from the metro northeast areas are a different level just like in football. A high school all american from the south is gonna be a much superior player to an all american from Massachussets or NYC. Its so much more culture than people realize
This post was edited on 3/27/23 at 7:23 pm
Posted on 3/27/23 at 7:25 pm to dkreller
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Because they're traditional power basketball schools.
As are UNC,Duke,UCLA,UK,Indiana,etc and they all have bigger fan bases, facilities and exposure than those mid majors.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 7:40 pm to Oilfieldbiology
Start by stopping with the framework of football thinking.
There are no 'P5' and 'mid-majors'; there are programs that are willing to dedicate resources to basketball and those that aren't.
Because basketball has smaller budgetary requirements, from staff to facilities, to recruiting budgets-- its a hell of a lot easier to spend the money to be competitive in basketball.
That's how this happens. Gonzaga doesn't lose its HC 20 years ago to UCLA, because Gonzaga can spend the money to be competitive at the highest level. Its a completely different calculus than football.
There are no 'P5' and 'mid-majors'; there are programs that are willing to dedicate resources to basketball and those that aren't.
Because basketball has smaller budgetary requirements, from staff to facilities, to recruiting budgets-- its a hell of a lot easier to spend the money to be competitive in basketball.
That's how this happens. Gonzaga doesn't lose its HC 20 years ago to UCLA, because Gonzaga can spend the money to be competitive at the highest level. Its a completely different calculus than football.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 8:16 pm to JayAg
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Memphis - lost in the first round.
UConn - blue blood with 4 titles, possibly five by next week.
Georgetown - has sucked for a decade.
Gonzaga - can’t get over the hump and may never with Few getting older.
Xavier - second most tournament appearances without a final 4.
This post was edited on 3/27/23 at 8:18 pm
Posted on 3/27/23 at 8:17 pm to makersmark1
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San Diego State looked like 30 year old men.
I saw a bit of that game. They looked like the college version of the old Detroit Pistons.
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