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Posted on 7/10/26 at 8:51 pm to
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 7/10/26 at 8:51 pm to
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An ACC team that didn’t win their conference played for the national championship and possibly should have won. They weren’t that awful man


2 and a half teams finished in the top 25. That's an awful league
Posted by RTRnFlorida
Member since Mar 2024
3240 posts
Posted on 7/11/26 at 9:34 am to
So just so I’m clear… a coach who has the most playoff appearances for every active coach, and is tied with the most National championships in the entire country .. is not a fair comparison? They’ve had a few down years, but they’re a legit program, with a brand as big as Georgias.

And you can’t say oh they have Trevor Lawrence. Well, Kirby’s has great recruits to win his two titles too.

Also… a team that beat you, (ole Miss) got beat by a 3rd place ACC team (Miami) , who played for and possibly could have won the NC.

Their conference is that weak.

Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
13056 posts
Posted on 7/11/26 at 10:47 am to
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What would it take for Kirby to be on the hot seat? In comparison to a coach that has seen massive success, I never thought Dabo after two NC titles would be practically hated at Clemson.


Kirby is smarter than Dabo. He can adapt while Dabo has not.

There will never be another run like Bama had under Saban. You can't stack rosters like Saban and Smart did. In those days kids whether they 4 or 5 stars, were essentially bound and had to accept that they would be depth pieces until it was "their time." Obviously the portal changed that, plus they can offer their services to the highest bidder.

Not only will there never be another dynasty, but the teams won't be as good as the powerhouse teams of the past because they won't be as deep with uber talented players.

All college fans, not just Georgia, will have to accept that parity means every coach, no matter how great, will have some bumpy seasons. SO far, Kirby hasn't had a truly bumpy season, neither has Ryan Day at Ohio State.

Notre Dame, with its weak independent schedule, is probably best positioned to stay at or near the top. The have the brand, a likable coach and enough wealthy alums to fund procurement of elite talent.



Posted by Darindawg
Member since May 2022
4122 posts
Posted on 7/11/26 at 11:09 am to
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What would it take for Kirby to be on the hot seat


Well, I'm late chiming in on this but I'll say that it isn't as outlandish at it may seem. There are a bunch of UGA fans that are not happy with the way KS is acclimating to the NIL thing, and this year's lag in recruiting is starting to show that this might be a legit concern. There are some who feel he is losing his passion and fire. Not sure I agree with this, but that's a real thing. And yeah, many are complaining that we haven't had a great showing in the playoffs the last few seasons.

The chaser to this is, his worst season in the last 5 years is 11-3. He's won 2 SEC championships in a row, destroyed our nemisis Bama last season and he has owned our greatest rivals (UF, Auburn, Tenny and GT).

Still...whether any of my fellow Dawg fans will heed my warning or not, I'll throw it out there. If we don't have a FANTASTIC season this year with all of the talent we have coming back and a much easier schedule than the last 2 seasons, there WILL be grumblings the likes we haven't heard since the Mark Richt days.
Posted by EulerRules
Member since Dec 2019
2084 posts
Posted on 7/11/26 at 11:15 am to
Miss the 48-team playoffs 3 years in a row.
Posted by GarnetNBlack
Member since Feb 2026
63 posts
Posted on 7/11/26 at 11:37 am to
There will always be a vocal portion of a spoilt fanbase. Whether or not it has any impact on large donors and administrators is doubtful. Kirby Smart is the best coach in college football, and they know it.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
44077 posts
Posted on 7/11/26 at 12:26 pm to
quote:


So just so I’m clear


Crystal clear.

quote:

a coach who has the most playoff appearances for every active coach, and is tied with the most National championships in the entire country .. is not a fair comparison? They’ve had a few down years, but they’re a legit program, with a brand as big as Georgias.


A coach with almost twice as many year coaching with a significantly lower winning percentage in a much weaker conference is not a fair comparison to Kirby. And Clemson is not even in the same stratosphere as UGA's. They aren't even in the top 20 of viewership No where to be found

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Also… a team that beat you, (ole Miss) got beat by a 3rd place ACC team (Miami) , who played for and possibly could have won the NC.
Because transitive property works so well in college football
Posted by RTRnFlorida
Member since Mar 2024
3240 posts
Posted on 7/11/26 at 1:07 pm to
Chat GPT:

Compare Kirby VS Dabo when it comes to coaching success.

Both are among the greatest coaches of the modern college football era, but they built their success in different ways.

### By the numbers

* **Winning percentage**

* Kirby Smart: **.847**
* Dabo Swinney: **.779**
* **Edge: Kirby**

* **Longevity**

* Dabo has coached nearly twice as many seasons and has almost **190 career wins**.
* **Edge: Dabo**

* **Conference difficulty**

* Kirby has achieved his record while competing in the SEC, widely regarded as the toughest conference in college football during his tenure.
* **Edge: Kirby**

* **Building a program**

* Dabo transformed Clemson from an extremely good ACC program into a national powerhouse, winning two national titles and making six consecutive CFP appearances from 2015–2020. Kirby had a foundation of success when he obtained the head coaching position.
* **Edge: Dabo**

* **Recruiting**

* Kirby has consistently signed the nation's No. 1 or No. 2 recruiting classes and has largely locked down the state of Georgia while recruiting nationally. Clemson does however recruit very well within the state of Georgia and in fact has a tight grip on the Atlanta area. Notable recruits from Georgia that elected to go to Clemson are;

Deshaun Watson (Gainesville, GA)
Nate Wiggins (Atlanta area)
Andrew Booth Jr. (DeCatur/Archer area)
Dacari Collins (Westlake High)
Trevor Lawrence (Cartersville High)

Clemson vs Georgia is very different as Georgia is in a deeply rich recruiting state, vs South Carolina which doesn’t have the overall high school talent Georgia does.

Kirby has done a lot with a lot, in comparison Dabo has done a lot with very little.

* **Edge: Tie : Dabo / Kirby** ([Mike Farrell Sports][5])

### Overall

If you're evaluating **career accomplishment**, it's very close:

* **Dabo Swinney** has the advantage in longevity, total wins, ACC championships, and building Clemson into an elite program from a much lower starting point.
* **Kirby Smart** has the advantage in winning percentage, recruiting, performance against elite competition, and sustaining dominance in the SEC but started from a much higher platform in a deep rich talent pool.

Since you’ve asked questions regarding fishing, a similar comparison would be Kirby fishing from the bank using live bait, or a cast net and Dabo is fishing from the bridge using hotdogs.

If both coaches retired today, many analysts may rank **Kirby Smart slightly ahead** because of his winning percentage and success in the SEC, and tied to Nick Saban. However, Dabo's transformation of Clemson from a regional power into a two-time national champion remains one of the greatest coaching jobs of the modern era. If the roles were reversed Dabo would more than likely have the same success Kirby has had, but the general consensus may not be the same for Kirby.

[1]: LINK "Dabo Swinney College Coaching Records, Awards ..."
[2]: LINK "Winning Smart Victory Post #116"
[3]: LINK "Ranking college football's 10 best head coaches for the ..."
[4]: LINK "Every Power Four coach's career record against the AP ..."
[5]: LINK "Who is the Better Recruiter? Kirby Smart or Dabo Swinney"
This post was edited on 7/11/26 at 1:09 pm
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
75886 posts
Posted on 7/11/26 at 1:26 pm to
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Remember how long UGA road with Mark Richt??? Kirby's won 2 NCs, Richt won ZERO.


With a playoff system, Richt likely has 2 NC's. Possibly 3.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
44077 posts
Posted on 7/11/26 at 1:52 pm to
You had to use AI to help your weak arse argument. Gtfoh
Posted by vengeanceofbrain
Member since Apr 2026
143 posts
Posted on 7/11/26 at 1:57 pm to
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Their conference is that weak.


The 14th place ACC team beat the second place SEC by two touchdowns last year
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
16982 posts
Posted on 7/11/26 at 2:41 pm to
Dead girl, live boy, nah just a dead girl.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
44077 posts
Posted on 7/11/26 at 2:51 pm to
Who was this? I’m drawing a blank.
Posted by RTRnFlorida
Member since Mar 2024
3240 posts
Posted on 7/11/26 at 3:05 pm to
The team that beat Georgia.

The ACC went 8-6 against the SEC last year. Their top team beat our top team in the playoffs.

Florida State 31–17 Alabama
LSU 17–10 Clemson
Tennessee 45–26 Syracuse
South Carolina 24–11 Virginia Tech
Miami 26–7 Florida
Miami 10–3 Texas A&M
Virginia 13–7 Missouri
Wake Forest 43–29 Mississippi State
Miami 31–27 Ole Miss
Vanderbilt 44–20 Virginia Tech
Florida 40–21 Florida State
Louisville 41–0 Kentucky
Clemson 28–14 South Carolina
Georgia 16–9 Georgia Tech
This post was edited on 7/11/26 at 3:06 pm
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
44077 posts
Posted on 7/11/26 at 3:13 pm to
Damn, that feels like forever ago
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
16982 posts
Posted on 7/11/26 at 5:09 pm to
Clemson literally sits on the Georgia stateline....
Posted by LewDawg
Member since May 2009
77673 posts
Posted on 7/11/26 at 8:01 pm to
quote:

What would it take for Kirby to be on the hot seat?
A lot.
Posted by SoonerKA1999
T-Town
Member since Aug 2021
1935 posts
Posted on 7/12/26 at 9:40 am to
quote:

With a playoff system, Richt likely has 2 NC's. Possibly 3.



I highly doubt that.
Posted by Chip82
Athens, Georgia
Member since Jan 2023
2118 posts
Posted on 7/12/26 at 10:04 am to
quote:

The chaser to this is, his worst season in the last 5 years is 11-3. He's won 2 SEC championships in a row, destroyed our nemisis Bama last season and he has owned our greatest rivals (UF, Auburn, Tenny and GT).


Again, since he arrived in 2016, every single player that Kirby has recruited out of high school has won either an SEC championship ring or a Natty ring or both.

In addition, Kirby is a Georgia grad who played for Georgia. His wife is a Georgia grad. It is much easier to recruit players when you can tell them that you played on the same field that they will play on.

What other coach out there is currently a step up from Kirby?

The answer to that question is obvious.
Posted by Othello
the Neptonian Steel Mines
Member since Aug 2013
25104 posts
Posted on 7/12/26 at 1:21 pm to
Kirby can't win a title in the 12 team playoff era. And can't even win a playoff game now it seems.
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