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re: FSU AD says "potentially more movement" within the next 24 months
Posted on 4/21/26 at 1:39 pm to FlyDownTheField83
Posted on 4/21/26 at 1:39 pm to FlyDownTheField83
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Bobby Bowden $crewed FSU when he had a chance to get in the SEC and blew it. FSU is going to continue to pay for that bad decision for years.
They didnt regret it when they SIXTEEN conference titles in the ACC.
Those national championships and conference titles would not have happened easily in the sec.
However if their product is good, then they have nothing to worry about. Contraction will hit the sec one day too.
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Posted on 4/21/26 at 1:47 pm to dstone12
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…would not have happened easily in the SEC
Precisely,……and the relative worth of SIXTEEN ACC titles is reflected by how badly the FSU AD wants to get out of the ACC and into the SEC.
Posted on 4/21/26 at 2:36 pm to FAT SEXY
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How many fricking teams is this conference going to have
No one wants to hear this and I don't care for it, but the real way is to break out the top 32 teams from their conferences, schedule with actual parity, and run a wildcard/playoff system like the NFL. There aren't any programs perennially outside of the top 20 or so that really has a chance anyway.
Leave everyone else (33+) to play in the old bowl system as a lower series. Maybe even add promotion and relegation.
Right now there are way too many uncontrollable factors, and SOS is the largest elephant in the room.
By suggesting they're moving to 24 slots in a playoff, it makes me think they're looking at the top 48 teams — basically the SEC and the Big Ten with 24 teams each (like a larger AFC and NFC with divisions). Which will keep us firmly in this mess.
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Posted on 4/21/26 at 2:56 pm to FlyDownTheField83
quote:To be fair, the ACC went to the finals last season while the SEC hasn't sniffed one in 4 seasons. Sankey will soon be begging teams to save his league.
Bobby Bowden $crewed FSU when he had a chance to get in the SEC and blew it. FSU is going to continue to pay for that bad decision for years.
Posted on 4/21/26 at 3:24 pm to BreakawayZou83
More movement? Like, with a laxative?
Posted on 4/21/26 at 3:31 pm to BreakawayZou83
This clowns always talk a mean game but when it comes time to put up or shut up they are churchmice.
The ACC is not going to let 10 years of rights go that easily.
The BDF let Texas and Oklahoma out but only after they got paid and that was 1 year early.
Sure some judge may make a brainlock decision but absent that them bitches are staying put for a while.
The ACC is not going to let 10 years of rights go that easily.
The BDF let Texas and Oklahoma out but only after they got paid and that was 1 year early.
Sure some judge may make a brainlock decision but absent that them bitches are staying put for a while.
Posted on 4/21/26 at 4:08 pm to Pimphand
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This clowns always talk a mean game but when it comes time to put up or shut up they are churchmice.
The ACC is not going to let 10 years of rights go that easily.
The settlement from the FSU and Clemson lawsuit against the ACC reduced the penalties to leave the conference and provides that the schools keep their own media rights if they pay the exit fee. If a school leaves in 2027, they pay $129 million, in 2028 - $111 million, 2029 - $93 million, 2030 and beyond - $75 million. I wouldn't be shocked to see a school as desperate to leave as FSU eating the larger fee in the next couple years. Hell, Texas A&M paid Jimbo Fisher nearly that amount just to get him out of town.
This post was edited on 4/21/26 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 4/21/26 at 5:01 pm to FlyDownTheField83
Or you know, times change and it’s no longer the easier path that also pays more like it was 30 years ago
Posted on 4/21/26 at 6:04 pm to FlyDownTheField83
Dodn't we say no way? Thought we had a part in ot too.
Posted on 4/21/26 at 7:16 pm to Gatorbait2008
I think after Texas was added while Aggy kicked and screamed all the way, the “gentlemen’s agreement” is off.
Posted on 4/21/26 at 8:42 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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Duke (North Carolina won’t leave them behind)
This just isn’t true.
Posted on 4/21/26 at 8:42 pm to FlyDownTheField83
So you think it was Bowden’s decision? Yeah, a hall of fame coach doesn’t know anything.
Posted on 4/21/26 at 9:10 pm to BreakawayZou83
We haven't figured out how to do the schedules with 16 teams. It would be even worse with 20 teams.
I don't see any value in adding FSU or Clemson. If it was just about basketball I could see adding Duke, Kansas, and North Carolina. But it would make a complete mess of the football schedule and I am not really much of a basketball fan outside of March Madness
I don't see any value in adding FSU or Clemson. If it was just about basketball I could see adding Duke, Kansas, and North Carolina. But it would make a complete mess of the football schedule and I am not really much of a basketball fan outside of March Madness
Posted on 4/21/26 at 9:13 pm to yakster
Some of the posters hit the nail on this. The lawsuit filed by FSU and Clemson severely damaged the 2036 mantra the ACC office was putting out as ironclad. The buyout from the grants of rights goes down every year. The 2 year timeline is dead accurate because that is when the buyout drops to a manageable number for many ACC schools.
I have no knowledge of who is going where but I know enough of the history out there to make an educated guess that FSU, UNC, Miami, GT, and possibly Clemson and Virginia will be scooped up for various reasons for each school - and those reasons are not the usual “SEC fans short reasoning” around fanbase/stadium size. The old days are over and it’s now about a lot more things than just packing 70,000 into a stale stadium.
And did someone seriously say no school perennially outside the top 20 has a chance at a Natty? Have you been asleep lately? Indiana who has perennially been a bottom 20 team has become a Natty and powerhouse in 4 short years.
Some of you keep coming up with ideas that are just not going to happen because of TV. The SEC is not breaking away from anything because if they do the BIG will takeover the rest of the country and buy all your players and within a decade you’ll be the ones begging to get back in. The days of every high end player wanting to play in the SEC are OVER. Y’all still have some good to great teams but the days of dominance are clearly done. We haven’t seen you in 3 years even playing for a Natty and this coming season it is UGA or bust for the SEC. If you are seriously pinning your hopes on a former ASU QB or a former Huskie coach to lead you to a playoff run then I’ll be here to read your posts in November.
I have no knowledge of who is going where but I know enough of the history out there to make an educated guess that FSU, UNC, Miami, GT, and possibly Clemson and Virginia will be scooped up for various reasons for each school - and those reasons are not the usual “SEC fans short reasoning” around fanbase/stadium size. The old days are over and it’s now about a lot more things than just packing 70,000 into a stale stadium.
And did someone seriously say no school perennially outside the top 20 has a chance at a Natty? Have you been asleep lately? Indiana who has perennially been a bottom 20 team has become a Natty and powerhouse in 4 short years.
Some of you keep coming up with ideas that are just not going to happen because of TV. The SEC is not breaking away from anything because if they do the BIG will takeover the rest of the country and buy all your players and within a decade you’ll be the ones begging to get back in. The days of every high end player wanting to play in the SEC are OVER. Y’all still have some good to great teams but the days of dominance are clearly done. We haven’t seen you in 3 years even playing for a Natty and this coming season it is UGA or bust for the SEC. If you are seriously pinning your hopes on a former ASU QB or a former Huskie coach to lead you to a playoff run then I’ll be here to read your posts in November.
Posted on 4/21/26 at 9:23 pm to BreakawayZou83
Alabama football could become the Kentucky of basketball. The Bama admin is not in touch with the reality of their situation.
Posted on 4/21/26 at 9:24 pm to RunningJacket
I can't tell from your post what you believe makes a program valuable enough to add to the SEC or Big 10. Do you have any parameters? Because you could read your post and come away with the impression that you could expand enormously and increase the amount of money that the Big 10 or SEC would clear per school. Surely you don't believe that.
Posted on 4/21/26 at 9:25 pm to BreakawayZou83
I think UF has an agreement with SEC not to add them...only thing that would make sense. Not sure if it is at all true or just an internet.
Posted on 4/21/26 at 9:36 pm to yakster
Bowden demanded the ACC membership because he thought the easier schedules would enable more national titles for FSU.
However, Bowden may not have been the only reason for FSU joining the ACC. The faculty at FSU probably favored the better academics of the ACC. And supposedly the ACC actually made more money than the SEC at the time, because the TV money in those days was so low that the ACC’s money from their NCAA tournament credits more than compensated for how the ACC made less TV money than the SEC. Of course, now the ACC also sucks at basketball, but that’s a more recent thing and ACC basketball used to be superior to SEC basketball.
However, Bowden may not have been the only reason for FSU joining the ACC. The faculty at FSU probably favored the better academics of the ACC. And supposedly the ACC actually made more money than the SEC at the time, because the TV money in those days was so low that the ACC’s money from their NCAA tournament credits more than compensated for how the ACC made less TV money than the SEC. Of course, now the ACC also sucks at basketball, but that’s a more recent thing and ACC basketball used to be superior to SEC basketball.
This post was edited on 4/21/26 at 9:45 pm
Posted on 4/21/26 at 10:04 pm to UFFan
At the time in the sport where you only could win a Natty by going undefeated and getting the media votes Bowden made the absolute right call by going to the ACC. And it worked for him and them as they won Natties by playing an easier schedule.
As we got into the BCS and 4 team playoff it hurt teams who had an easier schedule and the SEC took over. Now, in an ever expanding playoff system and NIL, it’s again changing which is why we will see more teams added to the SEC and BIG in 2 or 3 years. You guys have to accept that the goal is no longer to win a conference or even play in a soon to be extinct conference championship game. The only goal for every team is to make the playoff - and it doesn’t matter if you go 12-0 or 9-3. Just get in and then play ball.
As we got into the BCS and 4 team playoff it hurt teams who had an easier schedule and the SEC took over. Now, in an ever expanding playoff system and NIL, it’s again changing which is why we will see more teams added to the SEC and BIG in 2 or 3 years. You guys have to accept that the goal is no longer to win a conference or even play in a soon to be extinct conference championship game. The only goal for every team is to make the playoff - and it doesn’t matter if you go 12-0 or 9-3. Just get in and then play ball.
This post was edited on 4/21/26 at 10:07 pm
Posted on 4/22/26 at 5:49 am to Gatorbait2008
Just like our agreement not to add tu?
Right….
Right….
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